Tired of Bledsoe Haters (my 1st real post)

[hogwild]

Shall I go slower?

He did "blow" it, ultimately.

To pretend that he is the ONLY reason we lost the Seattle game is to be an ostrich.

If we want to play "stick our head in the sand" games, Bledsoe single-handedly won the San Diego, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Kansas City, and Carolina games for us.

5 to 1.

I win.

I think your going too slow already. I'll try simplify .
we agree he blew it. He was the Qb of record .
there were other ways we could've won that game ...ie defense holding,
cortez kick, holding on Witten....
But we lost that game on Bledsoe's throw

 

[superpunk]

I think your going too slow already. I'll try simplify .
we agree he blew it. He was the Qb of record .
there were other ways we could've won that game ...ie defense holding,
cortez kick, holding on Witten....
But we lost that game on Bledsoe's throw

Apparently not slow enough.

If we're playing that game....

We won 5 games on his throws, if we're taking that shallow, narrow-minded approach to the situation.

So, 5 to 1.

5 is a greater number than 1.

5 times greater.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Bledsoe is a good QB who is light years better than anything we've had for a long time.

However, Bledsoe's biggest problem to me is that he has a tendency to be slow in making his reads and then making a good decision with the ball. That is why Parcells and other coaches are always telling him..."Get the ball out, get the ball out!"

Bledsoe and his defenders try to say it's because he is waiting until the last possible second to try and make the big play, but it's obvious from watching him that he requires more time to process information in his head than the great QBs like Brady. Brady is quick, decisive and routinely gets the ball out at the right time. That is why NE kept Brady and let Bledsoe go to Buffalo. It's also the main reason with Bledsoe, "it's always about the OL." The simple fact is, he has to be protected longer than normal to compensate for that part of his game.

Bottom line, Bledsoe is a good QB we can win with, but he's certainly NOT a great, HOF QB.

Very good post.

 

[iceberg]

Apparently not slow enough.

If we're playing that game....

We won 5 games on his throws, if we're taking that shallow, narrow-minded approach to the situation.

So, 5 to 1.

5 is a greater number than 1.

5 times greater.

which 5 games???

 

[superpunk]

which 5 games???

I listed them earlier, don't you read?

San Diego, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Kansas City, and Carolina.

 

[iceberg]

I listed them earlier, don't you read?

San Diego, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Kansas City, and Carolina.

do i read the continued inane banter of the neverending "my qb is better than your qb" drivel we can't seem to *ever* get enough of?

not really, no. i try to check in and see if anyone is saying anything new but if either side is still using any ONE stat to prove a point then i can move along as the "car is still stuck in the mud" as usual.

 

[superpunk]

do i read the continued inane banter of the neverending "my qb is better than your qb" drivel we can't seem to *ever* get enough of?

That's not what this is about.

not really, no. i try to check in and see if anyone is saying anything new but if either side is still using any ONE stat to prove a point then i can move along as the "car is still stuck in the mud" as usual.

That "one stat" madness is what I'm debunking here. Had you read it....

 

[hogwild]

Name 1 QB that doesn't throw some dumb passes. They all do. Every last one.

the very best don't throw em in crunch-time.when the game
is on the line, if so , what good is experience.
Veterans should be better decision makers at that time in a game
Therectically (SP) .
Your right everybody has done it, Bledsoe even owned up to it.
but that doesn't make it go away

 

[superpunk]

Your right everybody has done it

So, we can assume you hate ALL QBs, right? Since they've ALL done the very thing that you claim sparks your malice towards Bledsoe?

Nuff said?

 

[hogwild]

Apparently not slow enough.

If we're playing that game....

We won 5 games on his throws, if we're taking that shallow, narrow-minded approach to the situation.

So, 5 to 1.

5 is a greater number than 1.

5 times greater.

so it's 5-1....okay it's the 1 in your equation that kept us
out of the playoffs :laugh2:

 

[superpunk]

so it's 5-1....okay it's the 1 in your equation that kept us
out of the playoffs :laugh2:

And if you swap the numbers, we finish 5-11, and miss the playoffs by a MILE. I agree, your ridiculous view of this situation is hilarious.

 

[hogwild]

So, we can assume you hate ALL QBs, right? Since they've ALL done the very thing that you claim sparks your malice towards Bledsoe?

Nuff said?

your reading comprehension ain't too good, is it.

I don't have malice toward Bledsoe.

Making stuff up is the first sign of losing an argument.
but i'm sure you know that very well.

 

[iceberg]

That's not what this is about.



That "one stat" madness is what I'm debunking here. Had you read it....

on all sides.

and this *is* what it's about.

 

[superpunk]

your reading comprehension ain't too good, is it.

I don't have malice toward Bledsoe.

Making stuff up is the first sign of losing an argument.
but i'm sure you know that very well.

Thread title, tired of Bledsoe Haters. First post, wondering why people hate Bledsoe. hogwild's first post in thread, "Seattle Game, Nuff said."

 

[KingTuna]

People act like Drew Bledsoe was the cause of us losing last year???.......Drew Bledsoe has been nothing but a blessing to this team. It seem like everytime I get on here and I read threads its people that call themselves Cowboy fans accusing him and comparing him to another teams quarterback? You cant compare quarterbacks from different teams to the quarterback that we have here because those are different systems! How can you compare Big Ben to Drew Bledsoe.... Last time I checked Pittsburgh is a dominate run team with a dominuate defense and Ben never usually throws more than 15 times a game but you compare him to Drew? Unfortunately we dont have a run dominate team like them so you cant compare them! You say Drew Bress he also had LT and Antonio Gates? You say Peyton Manning but he had James, Harrison & Wayne and a great offensive line.... Have you ever seen how bad he messes him when he is rushed?!?!? and you talk about Bledsoe? I not making excused im just stating facts....thats all quarterbacks play with different systems and there teams are totally different than the Cowboys. I mean how do you know if these quarterbacks would be any good in Dallas? The thing is you dont know? He may not be the Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and these other quarterbacks you guys wanted but you have to look at it this way would these other guys fit into the system that we run in Dallas???? I dont think so....Drew Bledsoe is the perfect QB for this team and all the coaches of the Cowboys know that! Everybody always say its only because of Bill Parcells.....He is a smart coach and he knows that Bledsoe fits into the superbowl run that we are going to make this season. As a matter of fact there were a couple games last year when our offensive line was messed up and you seen Bledsoe scrabbling out of the pocket to make plays himself to try to the win game.......you cant fault him! We missed the playoffs because of field goals kicks not Bledsoe! He is an awesome qb but he wont get the credit he deserves until we win a championship because no one wants to see his positives and that includes Cowboys fans!

Welcome to the board!! Excellent post and I agree with you 100%. Bledsoe is an outstanding QB and an even greater person..Bledsoe still throws the prettiest deep ball in football. The guy can throw it downfield 65-75 yards with arch or on a rope at the flick of his wrist.

Bledsoe deep to Owens will be a HUGE connection in 2006!!

 

[superpunk]

on all sides.

Not all sides. Some people are capable of looking at the whole puzzle, not singling out pieces because it gives them the information they wanted to start with.

and this *is* what it's about.

IF we're still talking about the same thing (my QB is better than your QB), then no, that is not what this thread is about.

 

[iceberg]

Not all sides. Some people are capable of looking at the whole puzzle, not singling out pieces because it gives them the information they wanted to start with.



IF we're still talking about the same thing (my QB is better than your QB), then no, that is not what this thread is about.

then it's a subset thereof.

it just seems there will NEVER be a qb debate until we get our next franchise qb to help ward off the "wah - quit hating my baby!" threads. i hate the "inbetween" because everyone goes ballistic over what will soon enough turn out to be a hogeboom player that filled the gap for awhile.

in all, just pretty sick of "hate" threads.

 

[bbgun]

I thought we "hated" Henson? Now we hate Bledsoe? Get bent.

 

[ravidubey]

Nothing in Drew's playoff career points to him as the driving force for victories in the post sesaon.

Without Drew making key passes in the playoffs, the Patriots would not have made it to Superbowls in 1996 and 2001.

In 1996 Patriots line up, first offensive series, darned near if not the first offensive play Bledsoe-Glenn, 50 yard bomb torching Rod Woodson. TD. KO. Ballgame. Reggie White exposed the Patties' suspect OL in the Superbowl.

In 2001 Brady is knocked out of the AFC Championship game. Bledsoe on his second series in relief throws a TD across the field in the deep corner of the endzone. TD, lead secured, game in hand.

He was part of good teams in both cases, but Drew needs at least two of 1) protection 2) running game 3) Good receivers short/middle/deep. Most often during his career he's had only one of these three components and has been forced to compensate for the rest.

I've never seen a QB act as a catalyst for playoffs wins without at least two of those three components.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I don't think Bledsoe should have made that throw in the Seattle game. We were tied 10-10. It wasn't like we were driving down the field with little time left trying to tie it or win it because we were behind. The ball was in his hands to make a good decision, which he didn't. I also blame the coaching staff because they seemed to play conservative, but when Seattle came back and tied it, all of a sudden they had Bledsoe throwing the ball trying to make a play when they really didn't do that the whole game, and just tried to sit on a lead - gee, where have I seen that one before?