Titans probably have to cough that 4th rounder back up to the Cowboys(news)

FuzzyLumpkins;2067321 said:
This notion that he got bounced and contracted the shooter to open fire for $15k in the few minutes that he had opportunity to do so that you guys are putting out there is dumb. The only way its even possible is if they knew each other beforehand which we know without a doubt they did not.

Now its a new tact for those that want to burn Pacman at the stake. Now its that this guy wasn't really the shooter but instead Pacman is framing him.

Too bad there are phone records that indicate this guy called Pacman from his house to Pacman's house at the time that Pacman said they were made. Actually everything that Pacman has stated has been corroborated so far. You may not believe him but that doesnt really matter when its being consistent with everything else.

I never said what happened. I simply said they were both Liars and there was probably enough real evidence to either clear or implicate Jones.

I do know this, anyone believing Jones story is a total sucker/idiot
 
Beast_from_East;2067368 said:
Also, if I remember correctly, Pac agreed to a sealed plea deal in Vegas. I am pretty sure that his attorney added in that plea that Pac could not be charged again involving this incident.

Do you think Jerry would be dumb enough to make a trade like this without checking into all of these incidents? Jerry and the commish are tight and barring a confession on Pac's part, I see him reinstated for camp.

First of all thats not how plea bargains work at all. Anyone that lies to the police in a plea bargain kills the plea bargain. As I already posted, the police actually spoke on this after the arrest and said they could still charge anyone.

Jerry put in the trade that the Cowboys would get compensated if Jones was never re-instated for a reason.
 
OILERMAN;2067432 said:
I never said what happened. I simply said they were both Liars and there was probably enough real evidence to either clear or implicate Jones.

I do know this, anyone believing Jones story is a total sucker/idiot

what part of the story is not believable?

he said he did not know the shooter. that has been proven true.

he said that he went outside and there was already some people fighting. that has been shown to be true.

he said that following the shootings he ran across the street. that has been shown to be true.

the only thing that you can call into question would be that the guy walked up to him and said 'hed take care of it.' and pacman replied 'whatever.'

OH MY GODZZ THAT iS SO UNBELIEVABLE!!!! PACMAN MUSTVE ORDERED A HIT IN THE 100 SECONDS THAT HE HAD TO DO IT!!!!!

The only suckers are the people that believe that this guy didn't do the shooting and that Pacman framed him.
 
OILERMAN;2067432 said:
I do know this, anyone believing Jones story is a total sucker/idiot

I'm not saying its true or not. Anyone believing that it cant be true is really naive.
 
Hostile;2066509 said:
There are more holes in this guy's story than Swiss cheese.


Yes there are.

Do you think Oilerman would be upset if Pacman went to the probowl this year as a Cowboy?

You know Oilerman is praying Pacman doesn't suit up for Dallas. All the Commander fans, too.

It really isn't surprising that all of them are saying they don't think Pacman will be reinstated. :rolleyes:

It's really more like a prayer.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;2067442 said:
The only suckers are the people that believe that this guy didn't do the shooting and that Pacman framed him.

As if they've never heard of a man in prison saying "I'm Innocent!!"

Like Morgan Freeman said in The Shawshank Redemtion: "I'm the only guilty man in Shawshank."

Plus, like I said... you know he's hoping like heck that Pacman isn't reinstated.

Oilerman's opinion is hardly an unbiased one.
 
This is unbelievable. I'm a huge Cowboys fan, and I'm embarrased this dirbag Jones is being mentioned in the same sentence as the Cowboys. And I'll be even more embarrased if he ends up wearing the star. Do you all forget why the shooting took place in the first place? It's because this self centered idiot chose to behave in a way that practically assured a near riot in the club. And if this was the first time I may be more forgiving, but he's been arrested several times in the past. He is obviously scum who has surrounded himself with other lowlife scum. So what does Jerry do? Welcome him with open arms and act like nothing serious happened. A man is paralized because of this *******. And you want him on the team? How many of you would be defending Pacman if he was just another thug that you read about in the paper? I'm with the previous poster in that I rather have a bad season than have this guy on the team.
 
anygivensun;2067710 said:
This is unbelievable. I'm a huge Cowboys fan, and I'm embarrased this dirbag Jones is being mentioned in the same sentence as the Cowboys. And I'll be even more embarrased if he ends up wearing the star. Do you all forget why the shooting took place in the first place? It's because this self centered idiot chose to behave in a way that practically assured a near riot in the club. And if this was the first time I may be more forgiving, but he's been arrested several times in the past. He is obviously scum who has surrounded himself with other lowlife scum. So what does Jerry do? Welcome him with open arms and act like nothing serious happened. A man is paralized because of this *******. And you want him on the team? How many of you would be defending Pacman if he was just another thug that you read about in the paper? I'm with the previous poster in that I rather have a bad season than have this guy on the team.

If someone stole $70k from you what would you do?

He started a fight. ive started a fight before, does that make me scum?

A man was paralyzed because someone not associated with Adam Jones decided to go and shoot up the club after being bounced from said club.

And if you would rather lose than win how about you go watch another team?
 
I think it would be very foolish from a PR standpoint to re-instate Pacman in light of these comments and the trial. Very good thing we got Jenkins.

If I were pacman I would also be fearing for my life in some degree; these people he's affiliated himself with aren't exactly guests you'd bring home for thanksgiving and that's putting it lightly. God bless him.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;2067769 said:
He started a fight. ive started a fight before, does that make me scum?
Yes, yes it does.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;2067769 said:
If someone stole $70k from you what would you do?

He started a fight. ive started a fight before, does that make me scum?

A man was paralyzed because someone not associated with Adam Jones decided to go and shoot up the club after being bounced from said club.

And if you would rather lose than win how about you go watch another team?

Just because some of us do not like Pacman does not mean we don't want the team to win. Some of you will accept any scum bag off the street and if that is what you like well good for you but wanting Dallas to avoid guys like Pacman does not make people any less of a Dallas Cowboy fan.
 
anygivensun;2067710 said:
This is unbelievable. I'm a huge Cowboys fan, and I'm embarrased this dirbag Jones is being mentioned in the same sentence as the Cowboys. And I'll be even more embarrased if he ends up wearing the star. Do you all forget why the shooting took place in the first place? It's because this self centered idiot chose to behave in a way that practically assured a near riot in the club. And if this was the first time I may be more forgiving, but he's been arrested several times in the past. He is obviously scum who has surrounded himself with other lowlife scum. So what does Jerry do? Welcome him with open arms and act like nothing serious happened. A man is paralized because of this *******. And you want him on the team? How many of you would be defending Pacman if he was just another thug that you read about in the paper? I'm with the previous poster in that I rather have a bad season than have this guy on the team.

Try reading the Search Warrant, you are assuming some things in this post that are flat WRONG according to the police.

Pacman got in an altercation in the club and was bounced from the club and sent out the REAR door. The bouncers went back inside to calm everything down inside the club when ANOTHER altercation started in the front door. Pacman did not start nor was he even involved in this altercation in any way.
 
I can't believe this debate is still going on. lol

There is nothing new to show Adam did anything, at all, to frame this guy or order a hit. This is just wishful thinking on the parts of jaded Titans fans, and fans of other NFC East teams, hoping he doesn't get on the field this year where he'll help the Cowboys beat their teams.
 
BraveHeartFan;2067868 said:
I can't believe this debate is still going on. lol

There is nothing new to show Adam did anything, at all, to frame this guy or order a hit. This is just wishful thinking on the parts of jaded Titans fans, and fans of other NFC East teams, hoping he doesn't get on the field this year where he'll help the Cowboys beat their teams.

:hammer: Please, mods, send this thread to the grave. This thread has become an eye sore. If people just don't get, well, then that is their problem...
 

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