News: TLH: Is There Enough Talent In Dallas To Make A Super Bowl Run?

[visionary]

Are you high? This team is going 1-15 at best!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The haters are out in full force
How can you not see what Garrett has built?

 

[Stash]

A career backup has calling cards now too?

Comes with the star on the helmet.

 

[Risen Star]

So what was the outcome here? Do we have the talent or not?

 

[5Stars]

So what was the outcome here? Do we have the talent or not?

I don't think so...the Cowboys have 3 or 4 Corner backs on the roster.

 

[5Stars]

Are you high? This team is going 1-15 at best!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get real! Tell me what team the Cowboys will beat to get that one win? smh

 

[visionary]

Comes with the star on the helmet.

Just read the Wilcox thread

The fame went to his head

An unheralded 4th round safety from a small school talking about fame

Lol

Those Garrett RKG s are sure paying huge dividends

 

[Bullflop]

Both offense AND defense has to be clicking to be assured of a SB run. Our offense is good enough to challenge. The defense, however, lacks both the talent and backup talent to seriously challenge for that honor. Maybe it will in a year or two but by then, the offense may have taken its turn in becoming shaky. It's tough getting it all to together in any case, even with a quality front office.

 

[DFWJC]

Your post is so general and open that it's really meaningless. That's like saying all 32 teams have a chance of making a Super Bowl run.
Yeah, okay.
But that statement is meaningless.

Actually only 12 teams have a chance of making a Super Bowl run because only 12 teams make the playoffs.

The Cowboys were an 8-8 team. They did not make the playoffs.

So what makes you think they'll make the playoffs this year?

Here's what's working against them.

1. The No. 32 defense last year that had no playmakers. Ware was the only playmaker, if you could call him that. He got by on reputation, and even his reputation didn't serve him last year. We have no Ware. We had no Lee last year, and we'll have no Lee this year.

2. We didn't add any bonafide playmakers on this defense, and we're essentially fielding a defense with younger players and marginal players we're hoping will play better.

3. We have Romo, yes, but he's returning from a back ailment. And he's returning a year older.

4. DeMarco Murray hasn't played a full season without injury. And he's getting older.

5. Jason Witten is a year older.

6. We have the same head coach we did last year, a coach who gave away games because he wouldn't run the ball.

Those are the negatives.

The one positive the Cowboys have going for them is a young offensive line. And I don't know if that's enough to propel the team back into contention.

And that's not taking into account the improvements other teams have made that may push them into one of six playoff spots.

So your position that the Cowboys can make a run for the Super Bowl isn't logical. It's just the wishful thinking of a fan.

Now, anything can happen, and the Cowboys could make the Super Bowl. But, again, that's still wishful thinking when you consider the evidence.

Just cutting in here with a question.
You listed a bunch of potential negatives yet could only find one potential positive going into this season.
Is that how you really feel?

If so, are you calling for a 4-12 record?

 

[tyke1doe]

Just cutting in here with a question.
You listed a bunch of potential negatives yet could only find one potential positive going into this season.
Is that how you really feel?

If so, are you calling for a 4-12 record?

I believe we will have double-digit losses, yes. 6-10.
I just don't have faith in the talent or the coaching, based on previous experience.
I hope I'm wrong. But I'm not expecting a miracle.
Each year since Tony Romo assumed the starting job, I think/thought ... "This is the year" ... only to be disappointed.
We had the worst defense in the NFL last year, and until otherwise proven, we STILL have the worst defense in the league.
And Tony Romo is a year older and coming off back surgery. And DeMarco Murray isn't Emmitt Smith. And even if he was, this team hasn't shown that it cares much for the running game.
I'm sorry. I've been as optimistic as I could the past several years. My optimism has run its course. I just don't see this team winning more than it loses.

 

[5Stars]

I believe we will have double-digit losses, yes. 6-10.
I just don't have faith in the talent or the coaching, based on previous experience.
I hope I'm wrong. But I'm not expecting a miracle.
Each year since Tony Romo assumed the starting job, I think/thought ... "This is the year" ... only to be disappointed.
We had the worst defense in the NFL last year, and until otherwise proven, we STILL have the worst defense in the league.
And Tony Romo is a year older and coming off back surgery. And DeMarco Murray isn't Emmitt Smith. And even if he was, this team hasn't shown that it cares much for the running game.
I'm sorry. I've been as optimistic as I could the past several years. My optimism has run its course. I just don't see this team winning more than it loses.

lmao....in the mean time I will post negative stuff about the Cowboys, that way I will be right. smh

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I would rather focus on just getting to the playoffs. The super bowl seems too far away at this point.

Like 20 years away... (Weeps in corner thinking about how bad things got/were/are)

 

[tyke1doe]

lmao....in the mean time I will post negative stuff about the Cowboys, that way I will be right. smh

This is a FAN forum. We don't cease to be Cowboys fans just because we don't think they'll do well any more than I cease to be a father because my son(s) aren't acting obediently or doing the necessary things to ensure success.

I always HOPE that the Cowboys do well, but the world of reality revolves around certain patterns. If the patterns are right, you can expect a positive result. If the patterns are wrong, you can expect negative results.

I've lived through the Landry and Johnson eras. I understand what it takes to build a successful team. And the ingredients to success follow certain established patterns.

I don't see that with the Cowboys, especially not how they're trying to NOW fit a team around Romo, who is closer to the decline rather than the ascent of his career.

Some of you can't stand anyone offering a dose of reality. Some of you think that if fans properly assess the team by pointing out negatives, that we're somehow not fans. That's absurd.

You can't ever get BETTER, and you'll always be DISAPPOINTED if you merely HOPE things get better without having an understanding of HOW things get better.

You'll always be wondering how a team can go nearly 20 years and can win only one playoff game, and not understanding WHY that is so. I understand why, which is why I'm a realist.

 

[percyhoward]

Right now 8-8 looks like an accomplishment. In a few weeks, after I've been to the preseason game vs Baltimore, I'll have adjusted that to a warm and fuzzy 10-6.

 

[CCBoy]

Right now 8-8 looks like an accomplishment. In a few weeks, after I've been to the preseason game vs Baltimore, I'll have adjusted that to a warm and fuzzy 10-6.

I'm already at 10 wins...I've got the faith!

 

[5Stars]

This is a FAN forum. We don't cease to be Cowboys fans just because we don't think they'll do well any more than I cease to be a father because my son(s) aren't acting obediently or doing the necessary things to ensure success.

I always HOPE that the Cowboys do well, but the world of reality revolves around certain patterns. If the patterns are right, you can expect a positive result. If the patterns are wrong, you can expect negative results.

I've lived through the Landry and Johnson era. I understand what it takes to build a successful team. And the ingredients to success follow certain established patterns.

I don't see that with the Cowboys, especially not how they're trying to NOW fit a team around Romo, who is closer to the decline rather than the ascent of his career.

Some of you can't stand anyone offering a dose of reality. Some of you think that if fans properly assess the team by pointing out negatives, that we're somehow not fans. That's absurd.

You can't ever get BETTER, and you'll always be DISAPPOINTED if you merely HOPE things get better without having an understanding of HOW things get better.

You'll always be wondering how a team can go nearly 20 years and can win only one playoff game, and not understanding WHY that is so. I understand why, which is why I'm a realist.

A realist...a FAN....a hope I'm wrong fan.

Well, I have been a fan of the Dallas Cowboys since they came into existence.

So, tell us Mr. Realist. What exactly is wrong the Dallas Cowboys that you really understand. And, don't give me the garbage that it's the front office.

It's funny to me that posters that proclaim this "realist" crap would not know real if it bit them in the ***. If you are so "real" about things and don't like the "real" stuff going on with the Cowboys, why are you still following them?

A "real" FAN, like I and others are, stick with the team good or bad. It's like a marriage....the wife pisses you off sometimes and you piss her off sometime, but, neither of you degrade each other in times of trouble, you stand beside you mate...in this case, your team.

But you "realists" won't have any of that! You dog the team, you know how bad it is, you berate the team, talk bad about any and everything, yet you won't divorce the team because you are "real"?

******** on that! If I had as much as I could stand with this team, I would go find another team. I would divorce this team and go be "real" with another team that never will let you down!

Good luck, Mr. Realist.

 

[DFWJC]

I believe we will have double-digit losses, yes. 6-10.
I just don't have faith in the talent or the coaching, based on previous experience.
I hope I'm wrong. But I'm not expecting a miracle.
Each year since Tony Romo assumed the starting job, I think/thought ... "This is the year" ... only to be disappointed.
We had the worst defense in the NFL last year, and until otherwise proven, we STILL have the worst defense in the league.
And Tony Romo is a year older and coming off back surgery. And DeMarco Murray isn't Emmitt Smith. And even if he was, this team hasn't shown that it cares much for the running game.
I'm sorry. I've been as optimistic as I could the past several years. My optimism has run its course. I just don't see this team winning more than it loses.

I understand.
Just asking, as you seemed especially down on our prospects.

I honestly have no idea how well do record wise.
But compared to what we were putting out there late last year, I feel I could list at least a dozen potential positives.
But even that would just be opinion sprinkled with hope.

 

[Tawney88]

A realist...a FAN....a hope I'm wrong fan.

Well, I have been a fan of the Dallas Cowboys since they came into existence.

So, tell us Mr. Realist. What exactly is wrong the Dallas Cowboys that you really understand. And, don't give me the garbage that it's the front office.

It's funny to me that posters that proclaim this "realist" crap would not know real if it bit them in the ***. If you are so "real" about things and don't like the "real" stuff going on with the Cowboys, why are you still following them?

A "real" FAN, like I and others are, stick with the team good or bad. It's like a marriage....the wife pisses you off sometimes and you piss her off sometime, but, neither of you degrade each other in times of trouble, you stand beside you mate...in this case, your team.

But you "realists" won't have any of that! You dog the team, you know how bad it is, you berate the team, talk bad about any and everything, yet you won't divorce the team because you are "real"?

Bull**** on that! If I had as much as I could stand with this team, I would go find another team. I would divorce this team and go be "real" with another team that never will let you down!

Good luck, Mr. Realist.

Smh

On the real the defense is real suspect. If you say it will be better than last year you aren't basing that on anything tangible just hope and wishes. The defense hasn't markedly improved to even suggest it will be better, at best it won't be any worse. Until they take the field there isn't anything you can say differently that would be just hope and faith. We also lost our 3 best defensive players from last year. Make all the excuses about Ware not being the same, or Lee is always hurt or what hatcher did wasn't that big of a deal. The truth is the confidence with the defense being better can't be that high without those 3.

We have to hope Romo is healthy. We don't know that he will be or that we will actually run the ball. If the offense doesn't do its part keeping the suspect D off the field 8-8 is the best we can hope for at this point.


Finally if you don't think the front office is an issue for this franchise I don't have a lot of faith in your ability to understand reality. No wonder realists baffle you.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I've lived through the Landry and Johnson eras. I understand what it takes to build a successful team. And the ingredients to success follow certain established patterns.

I don't see that with the Cowboys, especially not how they're trying to NOW fit a team around Romo, who is closer to the decline rather than the ascent of his career.

It is you that is blind, because right now we are doing exactly what JJ did in the early 90's. We are building a dominant OL that will be good for ANY QB, whether it's Romo or a new QB. We should be able to field a solid running attack and we have a multitude of weapons in the passing game.

We are building a speedy 4-3 defense that can attack in waves on the DL. Exactly like JJ did. I expect the DL rotation to get better over the next couple years as we focus on that.

It might not all pan out this year, but I think we are closer to have a very good team than we are to having a very bad team.

 

[Tawney88]

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[tyke1doe]

A realist...a FAN....a hope I'm wrong fan.

You act like this is some strange concept. Haven't you wished the best for people, knowing that the choices they make in their lives are heading them on a crash course for failure?

Well, I have been a fan of the Dallas Cowboys since they came into existence.

So, tell us Mr. Realist. What exactly is wrong the Dallas Cowboys that you really understand. And, don't give me the garbage that it's the front office.

Have you not read my posts in this thread? I've already given you the reasons. And, yes, I do believe the front office is part of it.
There's a saying among those who understand the importance of leadership and that is ... "Everything rises and falls on leadership."
If you have a team that has gone 20 years and hasn't won but one playoff game, and the same leader is in charge, is it garbage to observe that maybe the something that is wrong is the mainstay of the organization who has been the leader, the man at the top?

I know you don't like this, but those are the patterns I'm talking about.

It's funny to me that posters that proclaim this "realist" crap would not know real if it bit them in the ***. If you are so "real" about things and don't like the "real" stuff going on with the Cowboys, why are you still following them?

Uh, cause I'm a fan.
Uh, cause I hope things get better.
Uh, cause trouble won't last always.
What kind of question is that? You appear to be one of these fans who believes no one can ever say anything negative about the team otherwise, you aren't a "true" Cowboys fan.
Well, the nature of my relationship as a longtime Cowboys fan gives me the right to criticize the team.
The nature of my relationship with my wife gives me the right to tell her things I don't like and things I do. And she has the same right with me.
The nature of my relationship with my kids gives me the right to tell them when they need to get their act together.
As for not knowing real if it bit me in the butt, I know we haven't won but one playoff game in 20 years.
I know we've gone 8-8 and missed the playoffs over the past three years, especially with make-it or break-it final games on the line.
I know our quarterback is a year older.
I know our defense was ranked LAST in the NFL in 2013.
If those stats aren't real, then how come I yelled when they bit me in the butt?

A "real" FAN, like I and others are, stick with the team good or bad. It's like a marriage....the wife pisses you off sometimes and you piss her off sometime, but, neither of you degrade each other in times of trouble, you stand beside you mate...in this case, your team.

But if your wife pisses you off, do you talk about WHY she pissed you off, so it doesn't happen again? Or do you just ignore it HOPING that it goes away, only to find that it resurfaces because you didn't deal with the issue?

Second, who said they're abandoning the Cowboys? Did I say I was leaving the team? Your analogy speaks more to the points I was making than the point you had hoped to make.

But you "realists" won't have any of that! You dog the team, you know how bad it is, you berate the team, talk bad about any and everything, yet you won't divorce the team because you are "real"?

Bull**** on that! If I had as much as I could stand with this team, I would go find another team. I would divorce this team and go be "real" with another team that never will let you down!

That's you, though. That's because YOU interpret our negativity as having as much as we could stand. I simply said there are patterns that exist and if we continue with those patterns, we shouldn't expect different results.

You'd divorce, but divorce is not in my vocabulary. Instead, we'll have it out, we'll say some mean things, we'll suggest ways we can improve our relationship and will stay married. That's what MATURE couples do. IMMATURE couples avoid conflict, don't make suggestions of how they can improve their relationships and book at the hint of criticism or trouble.

Sorry, that may be what YOU would do. But not I.

Good luck, Mr. Realist.

Wish the Cowboys luck. You're the man who believes that we should just sweep things under the rug, drink the Kool-Aid and predict 12-4 season just because the Cowboys made a few moves here or there.
Heck, they even re-arranged chairs on the Titanic.
But as the typical loyal fan, despite you ushering me into the life boat, I'll sink with the ship.