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[zrinkill]

Seems like one business move was superior alright..

Yup ..... Way superior.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

It's just more short sighted booking and promoting of the company. More throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Let's say that Laurer did get over and the fans were invested in the storyline...now she leaves just weeks after, just further ingraining the message to the fans that there's no reason to get invested into the characters because chances are they won't be around long.

Sometimes that can't be helped, particularly in pro wrestling...but it's commonplace in TNA.

Is it commonplace in TNA? Do you have any knowledge of the company at all?

They've made castoffs into main eventers. Since the company began, guys like Samoa Joe, Styles, Daniels, Kaz, Beer Money, Abyss, etc.. are all still there.

At least 50 percent of their entire roster right now are people who have been with that company for years.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I have watched all of them. Thanks for the very short sighted advice there though.

I'm not saying AJ doesn't live and breath the business. I'm quite sure does and I'm very happy about that. However for you to make the claim that he's the most passionate in the business, based off your friggen fandom, is stupid. Period.

I don't give a crap who PWI, you, Hammer, or anyone else says I'm supposed to think is #1. Just like I don't that ESPN tells me I'm supposed to believe that Ware is the 2nd best defender in the league. I am free to watch the stuff myself and decide for myself.

AJ Styles is a great in-ring talent and fun to watch IN the ring. He's not #1 to me now, never has been, and never will be. It's just pretty much that simple and I don't need PWI to tell me how to decide that.

Yo.. don't lump me in with this guy.

:laugh2:

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It's just more short sighted booking and promoting of the company. More throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Let's say that Laurer did get over and the fans were invested in the storyline...now she leaves just weeks after, just further ingraining the message to the fans that there's no reason to get invested into the characters because chances are they won't be around long.

Sometimes that can't be helped, particularly in pro wrestling...but it's commonplace in TNA. And the reality is that 'there is no such thing as bad publicity' is a bad idea to try and build a business by.

Getting the crowd to 'pop' is just that...getting a bunch of marks to pop. It takes a lot more to actually draw money over the long haul and TNA doesn't get that.






3JACK

That bolded part is so true it's not even funny. It's hilarious how so many people seem to forget or over look this fact.

Look back to WCW when it started getting it's *** handed to it. They still got the crowd to POP on a regular basis for certain guys. Hogan, Nash, Flair, Sting, Goldberg, would come out and they'd get their pops. No one denies that.

However WCW continued to lose in the ratings, lose money, and eventually folded because getting a pop, from a crowd of marks, isn't the same as drawing money and making the business really profitable.

TNA has yet to learn that and honestly, at this point, I highly doubt they ever will. Hopefully ROH can continue to slowly grow, get some reconition, get on a big time TV network and be some real competition.

A lesson they should have learned with Flair and Hogan.

Yes this is true but really it's a lesson they should have learned even before that. They never have and they never will.

 

[zrinkill]

At least 50 percent of their entire roster right now are people who have been with that company for years.

but how many of the main eventer's are?

 

[Yeagermeister]

TNA did get two weeks of major publicity with her appearance and got some huge pops from the crowds during her two appearances while paying her next to nothing.

As opposed to the WWE who signed a certain fat chick to a guarenteed contract only to be pushing her to lose weight right away that she didn't want to drop, and then having her off TV for a year because she gets herself pregnant.

Seems like one business move was superior alright.. although most on here won't admit it.

If the WWE knew she was knocked up when she signed then yeah they messed up. If she knew and didn't tell them they should fire her.

but I'd still rather have a top female performer over a has been

 

[RoyTheHammer]

but how many of the main eventer's are?

AJ, Abyss, Beer Money, Jarrett, Matt Morgan, Hernandez, Sting, Steiner, Angle, Samoa Joe, The Pope.

All those guys have been with the company for years now. Steiner has been in and out, but the rest of those guys have been in it for the long haul.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Yup ..... Way superior.

Indeed. One company paid next to nothing for a couple weeks of marketing and getting their name out there to more people who are now more aware of the brand. That company now has no further obligation.

The other company signed a fat girl to a guarenteed contract and has already had problems with other wrestlers not getting along with her, wanting her to lose weight when she didn't think she needed to, and now her being gone for a year. All this while the company will still be paying her.

 

[zrinkill]

The other company signed a fat girl to a guarenteed contract

You can call her fat until you are blue in the face ..... does not change the fact that she was a far far superior signing for a well organized company.

but you can tout that porn star trainwreck and the piss ant company that hired her if that is what you are into.

 

[zrinkill]

AJ, Abyss, Beer Money, Jarrett, Matt Morgan, Hernandez, Sting, Steiner, Angle, Samoa Joe, The Pope.

All those guys have been with the company for years now. Steiner has been in and out, but the rest of those guys have been in it for the long haul.

I said main event.

 

[zrinkill]

Top guys in TNA right now

Hogan
Sting
Angle
Jarrett
Flair
A.J.
Kennedy

 

[RoyTheHammer]

You can call her fat until you are blue in the face ..... does not change the fact that she was a far far superior signing for a well organized company.

but you can tout that porn star trainwreck and the piss ant company that hired her if that is what you are into.

Im aware she's a bigger draw than Chyna at this point in both of their careers.. but the bottom line from a business standpoint, is that one company paid a big name for two weeks to draw attention and get their brand out there so more people would become familiar with it, and also treat their loyal fans they already have to a special treat.

They are now off the hook and owe Chyna nothing more.. i'd say they accomplished their goal very smoothly.

The other company signed a star female wrestler to a big contract, didn't get a single match out of her yet, and less than a couple months in, already is having trouble with other wrestlers, a weight issue that she doesn't want to fix, and is now telling the WWE that she won't be on the air for a year because she decided to get pregnant.

The WWE is still on the hook to pay her this entire time though.. so saying that the WWE made the better business move in this situation is just ridiculous, however you try to spin it.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I said main event.

What does main event mean to you? Only the top contenders for the heavyweight title right at this moment?

Im referring to guys who get the biggest pushes and most airtime now, and over the last couple years.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Top guys in TNA right now

Hogan
Sting
Angle
Jarrett
Flair
A.J.
Kennedy

..and this right here is how i know you either don't watch the program or are extremely biased.

 

[zrinkill]

saying that the WWE made the better business move in this situation is just ridiculous, however you try to spin it.

Only from a very biased point of view.

 

[zrinkill]

..and this right here is how i know you either don't watch the program or are extremely biased.

You really want to try and argue this?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

You really want to try and argue this?

No.. i don't. lol

Saying Hogan is a top guy there right now is one of the most foolish things i've heard lately. He not only hasn't been around for months, he hasn't been on TV for the company more than one or two times in that time span either. And when he does, he hasn't been a factor on the program at all.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Only from a very biased point of view.

Yawn..

I haven't been biased at all about the issues either company faces.

 

[zrinkill]

Saying Hogan is a top guy there right now is one of the most foolish things i've heard lately.

Go look at TNA main page and tell me who you see.

Try not to be so foolish.

 

[zrinkill]

I haven't been biased at all about the issues either company faces.

I am sure the fat girl would disagree.