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[Cowboy Brian]

Dear Heavens. Watching TNA right now for the first time in many years, and wow, really sad to see how low the former Karen Angle has gone. I guess that's all for real then? She actually left Kurt for Jeff? It's like the whole Macho Man, Miss Elizabeth, Hulk Hogan thing all over again to my untrained eye, at first glance. Really pathetic. (Karen, I mean)

Vince Russo loves booking angles that have reallism to it.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Vince Russo loves booking angles that have reallism to it.

He's an idiot.. that being said, the beginning of the program wasn't half bad. Last week was good. I just can't take Hogan and Bischoff anymore.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'd argue RVD was the "embodiment" of ECW, but that may also be because of WWE booking him as that during the ECW revival...


Hogan in WWE, your right.. Small doses.

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The single biggest pop of all time. Bigger than the rock returning this year, but that was also over a TV screen the first time so that probably made it smaller than it would've been..

Hogan in WWE, showing up 2 times a year (which is exactly how WWE would use him) would be hugely beneficial to the company, would be the same thing if TNA used him like that. but they wouldn.t

Exactly. In small doses Hogan could be benefitial to them. It won't happen in TNA though cause they're ran by weak minded morons.

But you're right on RVD to some extent as well. He was the embodiement of ECW in many ways after he got there as well. No doubt about that.

But my main point was that Dreamer was their guy. He was who they loved the most and who they viewed as their man.

He's an idiot.. that being said, the beginning of the program wasn't half bad. Last week was good. I just can't take Hogan and Bischoff anymore.

Can't blame you. I used to love Hogan and I've been sick of him for years now.

 

[DallasGirl50]

My hope is that Hogan never ever graces another WWE event...he is one of the lamest wrestlers ever. TNA can keep him....

 

[Phoenix]

Sounds to me like....Mike Tenay? (sp?) Taz? On the announce? Holy cow.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Sounds to me like....Mike Tenay? (sp?) Taz? On the announce? Holy cow.

Yup, Tenay and Taz. Honestly i like them better than anyone the WWE has right now. They work well together.

 

[big dog cowboy]

My hope is that Hogan never ever graces another WWE event...he is one of the lamest wrestlers ever. TNA can keep him....

On the :money:

 

[Yakuza Rich]

That bolded part is so true it's not even funny. It's hilarious how so many people seem to forget or over look this fact.

Look back to WCW when it started getting it's *** handed to it. They still got the crowd to POP on a regular basis for certain guys. Hogan, Nash, Flair, Sting, Goldberg, would come out and they'd get their pops. No one denies that.

There's talent on TNA's roster. But they don't know how to sustain that talent in program after program so they keep their heat. Every time somebody starts getting heat, they get bogged down with having to job for Jarrett or look weak for Hogan in an angle or whatever.

Russo doesn't understand basic, time tested fundamentals of booking. How to build up a character...how to sustain their heat over time...how to get the big money match main event. It's all about pops and ain't about cash.

So guys like Nash, Hogan, Jarrett and Flair get over and guys like Abyss and Samoa get over for awhile...then lose their heat..then have to build it up again, only to job to idiots like Nash who couldn't draw if they could levitate and pass out $20 bills.

I'd like to see TNA succeed. WWE does almost nothing to interest me. But the guys running thing...Bischoff and Russo...just ain't the right people for the job.



YR

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Exactly. In small doses Hogan could be benefitial to them. It won't happen in TNA though cause they're ran by weak minded morons.

Easy there killer lol.

I actually think TNA is taking steps, baby steps mind you, but steps in the right direction. They've kind of brought an edge back to the program lately, and i hope it stays that way. They still have alot of flaws, but i hope Foley gets more involved in creative, because they need help with storylines more than anything. As far as the feel or atmosphere of the program, i like where they are going with it.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

There's talent on TNA's roster. But they don't know how to sustain that talent in program after program so they keep their heat. Every time somebody starts getting heat, they get bogged down with having to job for Jarrett or look weak for Hogan in an angle or whatever.

Russo doesn't understand basic, time tested fundamentals of booking. How to build up a character...how to sustain their heat over time...how to get the big money match main event. It's all about pops and ain't about cash.

So guys like Nash, Hogan, Jarrett and Flair get over and guys like Abyss and Samoa get over for awhile...then lose their heat..then have to build it up again, only to job to idiots like Nash who couldn't draw if they could levitate and pass out $20 bills.

I'd like to see TNA succeed. WWE does almost nothing to interest me. But the guys running thing...Bischoff and Russo...just ain't the right people for the job.



YR

Um.. Nash can't draw?

:laugh2:



I agree with alot of your post, but that's just silly.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Exactly. In small doses Hogan could be benefitial to them. It won't happen in TNA though cause they're ran by weak minded morons.

But you're right on RVD to some extent as well. He was the embodiement of ECW in many ways after he got there as well. No doubt about that.

But my main point was that Dreamer was their guy. He was who they loved the most and who they viewed as their man.





Can't blame you. I used to love Hogan and I've been sick of him for years now.

A hyped "Hulk Hogan" return to Monday Night Raw would match or exceed the 3.8 rating "The Rock" drew. Hulk Hogan like it or not is a draw, when hyped he pumps up the TNA rating by .2-.4, RAW is on a bigger network combined with the WWE hype machine behind it he could probably pump it up a whole point, i wouldn't be surprised to see it exceed a 4.

You bring Hogan into the fold and combined with Austin & Rock they have the 3 biggest draws in the industry, and the hype to wrestlemania would easily pop over a 3.8-4.0.. Imagine how much a hyped Hogan-Austin confrontation would draw?

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I saw RVD the other night and was really surprised. To say he has slipped is a big understatement. Very disappointing.

He just doesn't care, right after his title reign he seems to have lost all interest.. That match vs Sting at sacrifice was the first good showing from him since that ECW-Remake PPV last august. It's sad because when he is into it he is one of the top performers in the industry. Going back to WWE would be beneficial for him aswell.


and since I keep bringing up people switching, from WWE to TNA John Morrison & Daniel Bryan would benefit the most. Mainly because Bryan will never be used as anything better than a midcarder to put on great matches, like Chavo. Morrison may break through to the main event in WWE, but its unlikely because of the way they book he would most likely eventually endup back in the mid card, ala Sheamus, Swagger, Ziggler...TNA does a great job of keeping their main eventers, main eventers. When you look at it TNA has around 8-10 people they can plug into a main event feud with it being believeable... WWE has like 5-6 ATM. TNA has continued to build stars, even if it is just repackaged WWE guys, they do a good job of it, WWE builds a star and then tears them down.

TNA's 8-10:
AJ Styles, Bully Ray, Kurt Angle, Sting, Jeff Jarrett, Rob Van Dam, Mr.Anderson, Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe, 'The Pope' D'angelo Dinero, Robert Roode.

^ All would be accepted in a title feud without any further building up, and they are currently building up Crimson and he may endup being the biggest TNA star besides Styles if they continue to do this well booking him, you could also argue Christopher Daniels & Matt Hardy, and once Jeff Hardy returns he'll be accepted by the fans in a minute


WWE's:

John Cena, Randy Orton, CM Punk, The Miz & R-Truth
are atm the only 5 that would be accepted without any further pushing, R-Truth has gotten himself as quick as Stone Cold did after the 3:16 promo. Great work by him.

WWE has guys they could get over as main eventers again, Del Joke, Sheamus, Christian, Morrison etc; but they always seem to pull back right before they pull the trigger on it.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Crazy how no one has mentioned this yet.. but the absolute most annoying thing about TNA right now, imo?

These little personal interviews they do with just the guy and a camera. They do it ALLLL the time. Before matches, after matches.. its soooo lame. Please stop. Please. Stop.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Crazy how no one has mentioned this yet.. but the absolute most annoying thing about TNA right now, imo?

These little personal interviews they do with just the guy and a camera. They do it ALLLL the time. Before matches, after matches.. its soooo lame. Please stop. Please. Stop.

I actually enjoy that, a TON. It gives a different perspective of the performer, and its something WWE doesn't do and it makes them different. They should keep doing it IMO.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I actually enjoy that, a TON. It gives a different perspective of the performer, and its something WWE doesn't do and it makes them different. They should keep doing it IMO.

Dude, its sooo lame. lol

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Dude, its sooo lame. lol

With some people it's good, Jeff Hardy was fantastic at it. Kendrick is fantastic at it. Beer Money is fantastic. Bully Ray aswell.

Some performers, people with less "over-the-top" charisma it is boring. Sting for example, he's decent on the mic but is pretty boring during those promos, same with Styles, Daniels etc;


but overall I like the concept, but instead of doing it for every match they should do it for big matches, like the main event or a title match.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Um.. Nash can't draw?

:laugh2:



I agree with alot of your post, but that's just silly.

He was the lowest drawing WWF champion in history.






YR

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I actually enjoy that, a TON. It gives a different perspective of the performer, and its something WWE doesn't do and it makes them different. They should keep doing it IMO.

I actually like them as well. I prefer the old days of guys cutting a promo, but so many wrestlers these days either can't cut a promo or because it's so tightly scripted it comes off as unnatural and mechanical.





YR

 

[zrinkill]

Crazy how no one has mentioned this yet.. but the absolute most annoying thing about TNA right now, imo?

These little personal interviews they do with just the guy and a camera. They do it ALLLL the time. Before matches, after matches.. its soooo lame. Please stop. Please. Stop.

There is so much wrong over there ...... that is way down the list for me.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I actually like them as well. I prefer the old days of guys cutting a promo, but so many wrestlers these days either can't cut a promo or because it's so tightly scripted it comes off as unnatural and mechanical.





YR

What TNA should do, is watch WWE progaming and say, ok they run a dumb angle every week with 4 people claiming they deserve a title shot.. Let's do the oppisite and kick it off with a strong in ring match and send Daniels and Pope out there to tear the house down... WWE has no tag division, lets rebuild ours... WWE has virtually no good in ring matches outside of Daniel Bryans performances (not because the wrestlers can't, but their not allowed), lets send our insanely talented roster out there to tear the house down... WWE has no blood, lets have atleast 1 guy blade every week... WWE has no curses, lets have a ton of curses...


They should just become the oppositie.