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Melonfeud

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Damn! I got up to get a beer and BOOM! K.C.on the board, nice pass.
 

Trouty

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Not just edge rushers. We need some big 300 pound hogs for the DLine. I just realized about 75% of our DLine rotation is at or under 285. No wonder they get pushed around.

Jack Crawford: 288
DeMarcus Lawrence: 270
Benson Mayowa: 240
Charles Tapper: 271
Tyrone Crawford: 285
David Irving: 273
Maliek Collins: 311
Terrell McClain: 302
Cedric Thornton: 309

That's not a typo, BTW. Mayowa is officially listed at 240. About the same as ME.

Geez, man. I want JPP. Even with his ginger root hand. Put him at RDE and **** it, put DLaw at LDE. It's better than we have now. Then draft DE DE and then whatevs
 

Trouty

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Go take a strong look at the best DEs available in the draft.

There are no 270 lbs. All are edge players, designed to rush against spread offenses in HS and college.

If someone is going to sit around and expect that some perfect studly 4-3 end is going to suddenly materialize, good luck.

The Von Miller prototype is what is coming out. You tailor your defense to that.

KC has three of them. Mack is not your typical studly DE, he plays off of Irvin, another hybrid type.

Our defensive system is too rigid. Either go 3-4 or hybrid.

We are wasting our time if we waiting for the next Simeon Rice.

And even then better have a top 3-T also.

I completely agree, Alexander. That's why I said premier 4-3 edge rushers are rarer than upper-echelon QBs

:(

Edit -- with the caveat that I would consider Von a viable premier 4-3 DE
 

Avery

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If the Raiders were playing the Steelers, it'd be 6-3 right now.
 

Alexander

What's it going to be then, eh?
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Parcels changed us to a 3-4 without having the players, he just switched.

He actually waited two years before going with the 3-4.

Then when he started to get the players he quit on the team.
So Jerry goes with Wade to keep the 3-4, and yes the pass rush improved, but the D was not great. It left a lot to be desired IMO. Then Wade goes, and in comes goofball Rob Ryan. Between him and injuries, a disaster.

So then out goes the 3-4 and in comes the 4-3 and we have no players to run it.
And they are still trying to fix it.

So Parcells started it, and Jerry continued it. We are still waiting.

If parcels would have left it alone,maybe it would been much different.
He was as bad for the team as he was good.

There, you didn't have to wait.
I won't even comment on the rest of this nonsense because you are really embarrassing yourself.
 

SlammedZero

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I'm jealous of Peters. Guy is a stud at CB. I remember watching that draft and just hoping he would slide to us. lol
 

Alexander

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I completely agree, Alexander. That's why I said premier 4-3 edge rushers are rarer than upper-echelon QBs

:(

Edit -- with the caveat that I would consider Von a viable premier 4-3 DE
He is a special player. But I guarantee you the 3-4 gives him far more opportunities.
 

JJHLH1

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Carr having a bad game. I'm enjoying this so far. Hope it continues.
 

Avery

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I'm jealous of Peters. Guy is a stud at CB. I remember watching that draft and just hoping he would slide to us. lol

Character issues. Talent was never a question.
 

drawandstrike

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He actually waited two years before going with the 3-4.


I won't even comment on the rest of this nonsense because you are really embarrassing yourself.

Correct. We went 10-6 Parcell's 1st year and made the playoffs. He figured he didn't need to make any big changes. Then the 2004 season Quincy Carter got cut in preseason & we went with Testaverde. The defense wasn't getting it done and it was after that 2nd season he switched the scheme.
 

jazzcat22

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He actually waited two years before going with the 3-4.


I won't even comment on the rest of this nonsense because you are really embarrassing yourself.

No I am not so screw you, I'm done with you, you can disagree but insults get you on ignore and your self righteous bs.
And anyone that lies your posts or agrees with you too.

You are one of thes goofs that think they are always right, well, you embarrass yourself jist as well.
Screw you.
 

bark

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Something about Baltimore, to me, just doesn't seem Championship caliber. They've got the horses, so to speak, to make some noise in the playoffs but I just don't think they'll get it done when the chips are down. Hell, they are the kind of team to knock New England out one week in an offensive explosion and put up 12 points the following week against the Raiders.
I agree I don't think they go all the way. I just think they might give the pats fits should they meet. We get a preview of this matchup Monday nite.
 

jazzcat22

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Correct. We went 10-6 Parcell's 1st year and made the playoffs. He figured he didn't need to make any big changes. Then the 2004 season Quincy Carter got cut in preseason & we went with Testaverde. The defense wasn't getting it done and it was after that 2nd season he switched the scheme.

He still switched and he screwed it up and set us back. Period.
 
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