To all you Roy Williams bashers out there

[Ren]

The best way to sum up just how big of a failure Roy has been is when a ball is thrown his way people are expecting a drop and holding their breath hoping for a catch.

With Miles and Crayton you're surprised if it's dropped

 

[JonJon]

Roy brought it on himself. The majority of Cowboy fans where all giddy for him to be a Cowboy before he got here. Since then, he as disappointed the masses with his lack of production and big plays. He should thank the heavens that Miles Austin emerged, otherwise he might be facing crucifixion.

 

[Hoofbite]

Anyone heard of Austin Collie? He has 7 TDs and he didn't cost multiple draft picks.

The man is nothing special. Situational player at best right now.

You know how I know Roy's a big failure this year? People have to selectively focus on a specific part of his stats to justify his play.

TDs without a bunch of catches or yards? Reminds me a lot of that FB from New Orleans who scored a bunch on Dallas a few years back.

 

[Plumfool]

Not bad

 

[tomson75]

Anyone heard of Austin Collie? He has 7 TDs and he didn't cost multiple draft picks.

The man is nothing special. Situational player at best right now.

I picked him up for my FF championship game this week. Ironically, I benched Roy to put him in. Worked out well too.

 

[RS12]

Or if they had kept the picks and drafted Hakeem Nicks and maybe Max Unger. You would have a young play making reciever on the ascent and a swing lineman with upside instead of ball droppin drive killin RW and Cory the turn stile Proctor.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

i love how people like to overlook the negative even if it far out weighs the positive:laugh2:

bring up his 7 tds

but no mention of him leading the league in on target dropped passes

how many key first downs has this guy cost us?

how many games has he been MIA when we needed him most?

with austin getting as much attention as hes been getting roy should be lighting things up

why was it so easy for austin a 3rd wr to step in and do what hes done with so little playing time and opportunity?

sad part is that even in pre-season action and few snaps in games ogletree looks like he has more of a repore with romo then williams. why?

roy at best right now is a solid red zone threat because of his size.

we didnt pay all that money to just get a red zone threat. we paid for a complete wr. he demanded number 1 wr money and has produced like a 3rd.

only one off-season together? 1.5 seasons isnt enough to show some kind of consistency?

yet we watch every week rookie WRs step in and play admirabley with their new qb in a new system. why is that?

even a wr like calvin johnson who continually has a merry go round at qb can consistently be productive and put up numbers.

look how smith played with his back up moore. even though i think moore could be a starter in the league how much reps have they really had together?

stop making excuses for roy. as a fan i want him to suceed as much as anyone else. i hope he gets 150 yards next week cause it only will help this team. but im not gonna sit here and convince myself hes been what we expected or has played up to his contract and potential. cause none of that has happened

stop justifying his play by saying he hasnt been as bad as what people are saying or terrible.

we didnt pay and give up picks for a not so bad wr. we didnt pay the price for average or decent. we paid for a pro bowl caliber wr who currently cant even command a double team.

 

[Sickwitit]

Anyone heard of Austin Collie? He has 7 TDs and he didn't cost multiple draft picks.

The man is nothing special. Situational player at best right now.

You know how I know Roy's a big failure this year? People have to selectively focus on a specific part of his stats to justify his play.

TDs without a bunch of catches or yards? Reminds me a lot of that FB from New Orleans who scored a bunch on Dallas a few years back.

Have you ever heard of a guy named Peyton Manning? nuff said!!!I would be hard pressed to find a WR in the entire NFL that wouldnt be successful with Peyton as there QB

 

[pgreptom]

Yeah, that pass last night was such a badly thrown ball. Oh - Forgive Romo for throwing you a high pass when you always tell him "up" with your hands.

Sorry, I can't vouch for him. Austin is owning him in every statistic.. I think Williams has some 600 yards on the season. If he was 1/2 the receiver you obviously think he was, his production would be so much higher. He's about to wrap up his second season with the Cowboys, and has 57 catches for 794.

Witten's numbers haven't been that bad in one season in the last three years. In fact, you can add up the TE's number for ANY two seasons and it is not as bad as Williams.

Hell, Austin had that production topped in 8 games this year. Dude.. even Patrick Crayton's stats look like Williams.

 

[RS12]

Next RW will complain Romo didnt catch it for him too.:laugh2:

 

[JonJon]

Have you ever heard of a guy named Peyton Manning? nuff said!!!I would be hard pressed to find a WR in the entire NFL that wouldnt be successful with Peyton as there QB

That Tony Romo guy isn't so bad either.

 

[Hoofbite]

Have you ever heard of a guy named Peyton Manning? nuff said!!!I would be hard pressed to find a WR in the entire NFL that wouldnt be successful with Peyton as there QB

Romo's no slouch. Austin doesn't have any trouble getting it done without Manning. Hell, theres a bunch of WRs who don't play with Peyton who are getting it done.

 

[gimmesix]

Crayton could have done the same if not more if he was targeted as much as Roy

Why do people assume this? Crayton has proven that he is a good third receiver, but each time he has been in the No. 2 role, we have ended up replacing him.

I can understand not liking Williams' drops. I don't like them, either. But we seem to diminish the fact that the top two receivers have to go against and get open against the other team's top two corners. If one of them can get shut down by a corner, then that allows for more double teams.

I want more from Williams, and hope he will eventually provide it, but there's a reason he's out there that goes beyond just catching the ball.

 

[Sickwitit]

i agree Romo is the man! hes top 5 no doubt. Theres more to it then just comparing ROYs stats to mosss,johnson, etc, The cowboys offense is loaded with players that need there touches witten,miles,barber,jones,bennent,choice, all those guys gotta have their touches. Andre Johnson is the only threat that team has besides slaten thus, his stats being really good same thing with moss. just because he doesnt have #1 WR stats means nothing i agree with preach hes getting heat from fans that is not justified he is playing just fine. He will only get better under this system and his chemistry with romo will improve with have something special for years to come.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Roy Williams is still garbage to me...

 

[Ren]

Why do people assume this? Crayton has proven that he is a good third receiver, but each time he has been in the No. 2 role, we have ended up replacing him.

I can understand not liking Williams' drops. I don't like them, either. But we seem to diminish the fact that the top two receivers have to go against and get open against the other team's top two corners. If one of them can get shut down by a corner, then that allows for more double teams.

I want more from Williams, and hope he will eventually provide it, but there's a reason he's out there that goes beyond just catching the ball.

Crayton had 700 yards and 7 TDs in 07 as a #2, saying he could do what Roy has done isn't a reach at all. Unless Roy goes off big time on Sunday he's probably not going to top that as a #1

 

[gimmesix]

Crayton had 700 yards and 7 TDs in 07 as a #2, saying he could do what Roy has done isn't a reach at all. Unless Roy goes off big time on Sunday he's probably not going to top that as a #1

First, Williams is not the No. 1 receiver, no matter what he says.

Second, the reason we acquired Roy is teams dared us to beat them with Crayton, putting a safety over the top of Owens and single coverage on Crayton.

It isn't all about the numbers the No. 2 guy puts up, he has to be enough of a threat to keep the safeties honest.

This doesn't mean I approve of Williams' production or drops, just that I have trouble with the mind-set of so-and-so could do just as well or better. Just because someone makes a play against a third or fourth corner doesn't mean they could do better in a starting role.

When people say that, it just reminds me of the days when people were clamoring for Troy Hambrick to be the starting running back because of the big numbers he put up as a backup. There is a difference in being able to shine in a backup role and being able to make a difference as a starter.

 

[jimmy40]

It seems like most are forgetting that Roy has 7 TD's on the season, which is second on the team and ranks tied for 16 in the league. Then theres also the fact that he had a TD last night (heck of a play by Romo), but you guys want to forget about that one and focus on his drops. One of the drops i honestly thought was PI live and have yet to see a replay and the other drop was a simple case of turning his head and trying to run before he caught the ball. Comeon who hasnt had one of those before, haha im sure everyone on here has done it playing back yard football AT LEAST ONCE in our lives and other professionals do it quite a bit themselves.

Everyone wants to complain about all the drops that he has had this year, if you had any common sense and knew football, you would know that at least half if not more were on poorly thrown balls. They were either behind him on a slant route where he had to reach back across his body and try to snag or over thrown like in the Green Bay game (btw he could have just let the ball go and not made an attempt, but he tried catching it and paid the price of cracked ribs). It seems like you didnt notice the ball that was over thrown in the endzone that Austin got his hand on, but wasnt able to come down with or the pass the Crayton dropped last night (although he got his wig split) and he has had a history of dropped balls in the past as well. Speaking of Crayton all of you guys saying we should start him over Roy, do you not remember that earlier in the year PC was a starter and lost his job to Austin, obviously he wasnt producing enough then to remain a starter, so what on earth makes you think you can do it now?

I'll be honest before this year I thought you was going to a great season. Has he? Most would say no and i partially agree, but you cant say he has had a terrible one either. Like i said before when it comes to tds hes tied for 16, which isnt bad at all. Could be better, but im not complaining bc the team is winning games and has a chance to win the east and the way their playing make a deep run in the playoffs. Something just isnt right with him and Romos timing, although i will say it has gotten better as the season has progressed. With that being said just think about how much more it will improve over the next few games and after another offseason together. It seems like most of the Roy Williams bashers out there that want him released asap are forgetting that him and Romo have only had one offseason together and dont think that they can improve their chemistry with more time together.

Heres an interesting link to an article from the Washington Post when it comes to dropped passes thru Dec. 27. Look and see where the name Roy Williams is. You might be surprised as to see whose above and tied with him.http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=232

If it wasn't Roy it would be someone else they would be crying about. It what whiners do.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Post more often.

Hos you love you some Roy Williams.

 

[Ren]

First, Williams is not the No. 1 receiver, no matter what he says.

Second, the reason we acquired Roy is teams dared us to beat them with Crayton, putting a safety over the top of Owens and single coverage on Crayton.

It isn't all about the numbers the No. 2 guy puts up, he has to be enough of a threat to keep the safeties honest.

This doesn't mean I approve of Williams' production or drops, just that I have trouble with the mind-set of so-and-so could do just as well or better. Just because someone makes a play against a third or fourth corner doesn't mean they could do better in a starting role.

When people say that, it just reminds me of the days when people were clamoring for Troy Hambrick to be the starting running back because of the big numbers he put up as a backup. There is a difference in being able to shine in a backup role and being able to make a difference as a starter.

Roy was the #1 for half the season, I said Crayton could do what Roy has done and posted the stats to prove it this debate should have been over at that point.

Crayton didn't shine as a back up in 07 he started all season and made about as much of a difference as Roy has this year