TO is the MVP of this team

Dave_in-NC

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Bleu Star;1283436 said:
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The rest of this stuff I am reading is reminiscent of the mess that went back and forth last week. With each additional page the heat barometer goes up a notch. I've said my piece and I wholeheartedly agree with that underlined quote. Carry on with the bashing. :cool:

There's no bashing. If any thing owens has been given props by all. Some are just over exaggerated.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283523 said:
There's no bashing. If any thing owens has been given props by all. Some are just over exaggerated.

:laugh2: Yeah. I can see your point on that. This thread has actually been surprisingly refreshing. Good points by both side with a little snipe action here and there.. as expected.
 

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YoMick;1283444 said:
Never did I read or write that he was responsible for ALL of our offense. He was a major factor in us scoring 100 more points in 2006 than 2005

Yet the proof is he hasn't. Let's remember last season we running behind a worse O line than we are today. That line also had Flo out and a guy who has yet to suit up for a game in NO.

No one is taking owens for granted, you just have him way to high.

Go look, statistically the team from last season isn't much different than this season. It's there to see.

You have to have the gutts to look.
 

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Bleu Star;1283531 said:
:laugh2: Yeah. I can see your point on that. This thread has actually been surprisingly refreshing. Good points by both side with a little snipe action here and there.. as expected.

Ya gotta have some fun:p:
 

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TO sucks....he's the reason we are stuck with Romo in the first place. :mad:

Munchis....Out!!
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283541 said:
Yet the proof is he hasn't. Let's remember last season we running behind a worse O line than we are today. That line also had Flo out and a guy who has yet to suit up for a game in NO.

No one is taking owens for granted, you just have him way to high.

Go look, statistically the team from last season isn't much different than this season. It's there to see.

You have to have the gutts to look.


oooohhh... "guttcheck" I like it...:D

what stats are you speaking exactly... you make it sound like our O-line is lights out compared to last year and that is not the case.... TO draws attention and others benefit... all benefit... 100 points is 100 points... we were not going to score than many (425) with Keyshawn opposite Glenn...

I have not once exaggerated Owens contributions to the team... he is a #1 WR and he draws the attention...

you wanna talk stats.. fine... I am concerned with the bottom line... POINTS... stats dont win games points do.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283541 said:
No one is taking owens for granted, you just have him way to high.

Speaking of that Atlanta game that Owens supposed 'won', does anyone have a subscription to CowboysWeekly? If so, can they go import the article entitled "Glenn Leads Parade Of Cowboys Heroes" by Mike Rabun from the December, 2006, Vol 32, No 287 issue? They sent me a hard copy as a re-up, but I can no longer access the online edition..I dropped my sub once Dale left :)

But I will type in most of the passages from the Boys Official Weekly re that game.

After saying both Barber and Owens should not be forgotten, MBIII for 'taking over the game", and TO for a "truly circus catch" ("Terrell Owens should certainly not be forgotten for his two first-half touchdowns, one of them coming on a truly circus catch"), Rabun wrote:

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Nevertheless we still come back to Glenn, who it might be argued saved the Cowboys night and perhaps the season along about midway through the third quarter.

The Cowboys had not only given up a 14-0 lead but had fallen behind by seven points. For the second straight week Dallas had allowed three touchdowns in the second period. For the second straight week the opposition's fullback was threatening to earn a Hall of Fame berth.

If things didn't change in a quick hurry, the 2006 season was going to take on a very gloomy hue. It also didn't help that the Cowboys were facing a third-and-13 situation with the Falcons, having scored on the four previous possessions, licking their chops to get the ball back.

What happened next changed the course of the contest.

Tony Romo stepped up in the pocket and lofted a perfect pass down the sideline to Glenn, who had narrowly escaped from cornerback Allen Rossum and managed to get both feet down inbounds as the ball arrived.

Instead of punting, Dallas had gained 24 yards en route to a field goal that halted the bleeding.

Soon thereafter, thanks to the first stop the defense had made since early in the second period, the Cowboys had the ball back. But after a botched swing pass that turned out to be a fumble and an 11-yard loss, the Cowboys found themselves needing 12 yards on third down.

They were still behind and the fourth quarter was looming. How many more chances were they going to have? Again it was Glenn to the rescue.

Romo looked right, saw nothing and then rolled left. There was Glenn, having found a chunk of wide open space. The pass was on target for 18 yards and a first down. Four plays later Barber was in the end zone for the go-ahead touchdown.

But there was still a lot of time left. The Falcons certainly could not be counted out, even when they punted the ball away once more with over eight minutes remaining in the fourth quarter.

It will be remembered that Barber culminated the ensuing 80-yard drive by carrying six times for the final 35 yards.

The drive, however, was started by a second-and-eight pass form Romo to Glenn with the Dallas receiver getting the best of Rossum again.

There is no question that a lot of building blocks went into the crucial victory over the Falcons.

Demarcus Ware's acrobatic interception and touchdown return brought back memories of a similar pickoff made by defensive end George Andrie in the NFC championship victory over San Franciso that catapulted the Cowboys to thier first Super Bowl triumph.

Romo, himself, had the kind of game he need to rebuild his stature and his confidence.

Anthony Henry and Terence Newman forced drive-stopping incompletions during the second half to finally halt Atlanta's offensive momementum.

Jason Witten had his share of catches, Bobby Carpenter had his moments with a sack and a half and Martin Grammatica came through from long range when needed.

Just about everybody in a Dallas uniform, in fact, did something that contributed to the end result. But when things were teetering and big plays were needed to give the Cowboys some hope that all was not lost, Glenn kept materializing.

The evidence merely mounted that Terry Glenn is an asset the Cowboys must have to prolong their season deep into January.

___Mike Rabun.


Now, I don't know why the Boys official voice chose to make TG the focus of that article, except that folks who understand team sports watch with an eye to every play, and understand that no one player wins a game..and also
that players who don't even score a TD might make the more substantial contributions.

REAL football - not Madden Football. :)
 

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YoMick;1283444 said:
Never did I read or write that he was responsible for ALL of our offense. He was a major factor in us scoring 100 more points in 2006 than 2005

Our top 3 receivers caught ONE more TD this year.

We had FOUR more non-offensive TDs this year.

We had EIGHT more rushing TDs.

Crayton had TWO more TDs.

Our backs caught ONE more TD.

That's 15 TDs or 105 points. To say TO was a major cog in those points is really stretching things.

Last year Key had 46 catches for FDs.

TO had 62, that's plus 16...point for your argument, but...Glenn and Witten both lost catches to TO and had 5 fewer FDs combined, so one could argue that the increase was somewhat a different distribution more than a big positive for TO.

Crayton had 13 more catches for first downs.

Barber was plus 18 for FD rushes.

I'm sorry, but Romo, a healthy OL, a healthy Crayton, a full season from Jones, a monster year by Barber, and 6 TDs on returns all contributed to those 100.
 

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blindzebra;1283864 said:
Our top 3 receivers caught ONE more TD this year.

We had FOUR more non-offensive TDs this year.

We had EIGHT more rushing TDs.

Crayton had TWO more TDs.

Our backs caught ONE more TD.

That's 15 TDs or 105 points. To say TO was a major cog in those points is really stretching things.

Last year Key had 46 catches for FDs.

TO had 62, that's plus 16...point for your argument, but...Glenn and Witten both lost catches to TO and had 5 fewer FDs combined, so one could argue that the increase was somewhat a different distribution more than a big positive for TO.

Crayton had 13 more catches for first downs.

Barber was plus 18 for FD rushes.

I'm sorry, but Romo, a healthy OL, a healthy Crayton, a full season from Jones, a monster year by Barber, and 6 TDs on returns all contributed to those 100.


You left out one of the most important things... "presence"... TO's presence on the field is BIG... DC's gameplan for TO... not really the other receivers as much... The first thing on the DC's mind is to make sure TO doesnt hurt them... there is no stat for that... Philly gameplanned hard for TO twice... as they have admitted too...
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283237 said:
Barber had five Tds in 2005
Barber has fourteen in 2006

Throwing TDs in 2005 twenty three
Throwing Tds in 2006 twenty six.

Yup huge difference from owens.:rolleyes:

Dave, Barber has 16 TD's this year.

14 rushing and 2 passing.
 

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YoMick;1283969 said:
You left out one of the most important things... "presence"... TO's presence on the field is BIG... DC's gameplan for TO... not really the other receivers as much... The first thing on the DC's mind is to make sure TO doesnt hurt them... there is no stat for that... Philly gameplanned hard for TO twice... as they have admitted too...

Funny I saw TO in single coverage a lot, it's one of the reasons Romo threw to him so much.

The simple facts are we spread the ball around on offense, we did without TO last year and we did with TO, and we will without him next year too.;)
 

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Arch Stanton;1283985 said:
Dave, Barber has 16 TD's this year.

14 rushing and 2 passing.

Whoops, my bad Dave - 2 receiving TD's.

Got confused as it was a TO thread. He of course rushes, passes, hands off and blocks on a play whilst writing his latest literary masterpiece. ;)
 
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