TO is the MVP of this team

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blindzebra;1283091 said:
Last year we were 9-7.

This year we are 9-7.

The difference is the NFC is even worse than it was last season.

Last year our top 3 receivers combined for 199 catches, 2786 yards and 19 TDs...we threw 500 passes and had 67 throws to our backs.

This year the top 3 combined for 219 catches, 2981 yards, and 20 TDs...we threw 506 times and had 36 throws to our backs.

Yep, TO was a huge difference maker.:rolleyes:

Game. Set. Match. Zebra. Thread over.
 

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blindzebra;1283091 said:
Last year we were 9-7.

This year we are 9-7.

The difference is the NFC is even worse than it was last season.

Last year our top 3 receivers combined for 199 catches, 2786 yards and 19 TDs...we threw 500 passes and had 67 throws to our backs.

This year the top 3 combined for 219 catches, 2981 yards, and 20 TDs...we threw 506 times and had 36 throws to our backs.

Yep, TO was a huge difference maker.:rolleyes:

Its not that cut and dry...




GoinForSix;1283164 said:
Game. Set. Match. Zebra. Thread over.

I call 40 Love..... we scored exactly 100 more points this year from last. You are not taking their game involvement into account.... by why bother with facts like scoring ONE HUNDRED MORE POINTS THAN LAST YEAR

2005 - 325 points
2006 - 425 points
 

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YoMick;1283173 said:
Its not that cut and dry...






I call 40 Love..... we scored exactly 100 more points this year from last. You are not taking their game involvement into account.... by why bother with facts like scoring ONE HUNDRED MORE POINTS THAN LAST YEAR

2005 - 325 points
2006 - 425 points

Are you taking into account Barbers TDs? Just asking the question.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283182 said:
Are you taking into account Barbers TDs? Just asking the question.

I am talking about AS A TEAM we scored 100 more points.

How did Barber get to the 1st and goal to score all those TD's? hmmmm....:eek::p:
 

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YoMick;1283185 said:
I am talking about AS A TEAM we scored 100 more points.

How did Barber get to the 1st and goal to score all those TD's? hmmmm....:eek::p:

Romo threw the ball down there. Usually to Glenn or Witten:p:
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283195 said:
Romo threw the ball down there. Usually to Glenn or Witten:p:

A lot of truth in this. Whitten was a non factor before Romo. I think Romo does a nice job of getting everyone involved, TO included. I would actually like to see him check down to a RB more often.
 

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The bottom line is a team that has underwhelmed to such a great extent has no MVP. Romo and TO are bright spots (as well as Terry Glenn, Ware, and MB3.). There's no discounting the fact that we have two 1000 yard receivers. I still can't really call anyone on this team a true "MVP".
 

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Barber had five Tds in 2005
Barber has fourteen in 2006

Throwing TDs in 2005 twenty three
Throwing Tds in 2006 twenty six.

Yup huge difference from owens.:rolleyes:
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283237 said:
Barber had five Tds in 2005
Barber has fourteen in 2006

Throwing TDs in 2005 twenty three
Throwing Tds in 2006 twenty six.

Yup huge difference from owens.:rolleyes:


You keep making my point. Owens is either directly or indirectly responsilbe for our RB's or other Receivers scoring 100 more points.

3 TD's more to WR's
9 TD's more to MB3
 

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YoMick;1283322 said:
You keep making my point. Owens is either directly or indirectly responsilbe for our RB's or other Receivers scoring 100 more points.

3 TD's more to WR's
9 TD's more to MB3

And that's all because of owens? Cmon you don't really believe that do you?
owens may have helped but not one hundred points.

If Bledsoe was still out there I would bet we would have scored less than 2005. Would you then accept an argument that owens hurt the team?
 

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It's not even close.....Romo. Without Romo we are already out of the playoffs.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283237 said:
Barber had five Tds in 2005
Barber has fourteen in 2006

Throwing TDs in 2005 twenty three
Throwing Tds in 2006 twenty six.

Yup huge difference from owens.:rolleyes:

Forget it.

Owens will get credit for everyone's TDs. He willed the other guys in.

He singlehandledly drove the team downfield, and without him, the team would never have gotten down there. :) No way the ball could have or would have been distributed to others. We just would have frozen on our own 20, fiddling our thumbs.

Of course. A sensible fan who respects the contributions of every team member realizes that tho Owens has no high-light reel TDs this year, and less YAC then when he was in his prime, he has over 1000 receiving yards, just like TG does, and his role in moving the chains is not inconsequential..it was considerable.

But once again, that prop is never enough for the jock riders - it has to be about Owens, and not the team.

Same record as last year. Only three more passing tds, which I account more to Romo than anyone (TO demands the ball and needs to be fed, hence the TD looks the other don't get). The running TDs are naturally, an extension of Owens alone.

It's pitiful when one player has to be exaulted above the team, and the other team members accused of "snitching" with zero evidence, (TG) or of just being inadequate (Romo), or of being mere appendages of the SuperStar (Barber, et al). Both Barber and Owens had two TDs in Atlanta - but t'was Owens who "won the game".

It is interesting how some people look at the game of football, tho, simplistically and with Superstars in their eyes. No sense of what a team sport even is.

This thread should be the lead exhibit in the TOol Zone.:lmao:

pathetic.
 

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This thread should be the lead exhibit in the TOol Zone

:lmao2:

You are right. How dare we say that with out owens we would have been 9-7.
There is no recent history to point in that direction.:D
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283374 said:
This thread should be the lead exhibit in the TOol Zone

:lmao2:

You are right. How dare we say that with out owens we would have been 9-7.
There is no recent history to point in that direction.:D

Just when folks think Owens has the biggest, neediest ego in the universe, his fans prove they trump him. Another interesting sociological/psychological aisde, I suppose, best plumbed in the offseason.

Hypothetically, in the absence of a clear MVP (which is the case in Dallas, tho Ware and Romo are likely "it") can a case be made that Owens is the one?

Of course. Anytime an offensive player amasses over 1000 yds, 85 receptions, and 13 tds, a case can be made. But the way to make it is not to trash other players or denigrate their contributions.

But that's the TOol Way.:laugh2: :laugh2:
 

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YoMick;1283404 said:
I didnt see where players were trashed or denigrated in this thread?

It can be read as owens was responsible for all our offense. Thats why you see people coming up with stats, they say other wise.

Me personally, if he can contribute and act like a quire boy, I'm fine.
I just don't think he carried our offense.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1283395 said:
Anytime an offensive player amasses over 1000 yds, 85 receptions, and 13 tds, a case can be made. But the way to make it is not to trash other players or denigrate their contributions.

:hammer:

The rest of this stuff I am reading is reminiscent of the mess that went back and forth last week. With each additional page the heat barometer goes up a notch. I've said my piece and I wholeheartedly agree with that underlined quote. Carry on with the bashing. :cool:
 

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Dave_in-NC;1283421 said:
It can be read as owens was responsible for all our offense. Thats why you see people coming up with stats, they say other wise.

Me personally, if he can contribute and act like a quire boy, I'm fine.
I just don't think he carried our offense.

Never did I read or write that he was responsible for ALL of our offense. He was a major factor in us scoring 100 more points in 2006 than 2005
 

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StarAmongStars;1282772 said:
:lmao2: :laugh2: :laugh1: :lmao:

Blind Homerism at it's finest.

Sorry but I would take a slew of QB's over Romo, not just those 3:

Vince Young
Alex Smith
Matt Hasslebach
Marc Bulger
Rex Grossman
Mcnabb or Garcia
Drew Brees
Philip Rivers
JP Losman
Chad Pennington
Jay Cutler
Big Ben
Steve McNair
Even....dare I say it....Jason Campbell has more talent and better upside than Romo.

Behind our OL these guys will be pedestrian as well. Can't have one without the other, except in fantasy football.
 
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