TO looking like a declining player....

[Hostile]

come on hos...the 2009 team is better b/c Romo has not been hurt for 4 games. There is less distractions because no one is predicting superbowl before the season started and having cameras everywhere filming hardknocks. This Team is better b/c Free has filled in nicely on the right side, something that would not have happen last year. This team is better b/c Romo is not turning the ball over at an astronomical rate...the games he did we lost.

TO is not the end all be all but he blaming him for last years failures are ridiculous. A million injuries, and we missed the playoffs by 1 game. Not to mention Romo wasnt right when he came back. We at least win two more games with out all that, and if that happens no one is talking about a TO distraction problem. You can dispute that if you want to but everyone knows there is no untruth stated here.

Im not saying TO is the end all be all, but I say again he was not the problem last year.

No sale.

This team is better and chemistry is definitely a big factor. The drama factor is gone. Miles is out producing what TO gave us last year.

He is not missed. In 2008 he was way below his par of 2006 and 2008. He was a player on the decline and no longer worth the contract or the baggage.

 

[Hostile]

Wrong. Your hate blinds you. He put up all-pro numbers while he was here and was worth the money.

You would rather have an overpaid WR in his 20's who sucks over an "overpaid" WR at 36 who doesn't. Good thing you aren't running a team. They would call for your head.

In 2006 and 2007? You bet he did.

In 2008? No sir.

The guy is an albatross. Good riddance.

 

[zrinkill]

Your incessant whining and trolling is old.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I think some forget that a few of those interceptions Romo threw happened when trying to force passes to TO. That's one of the nice factors this year, that has allowed him to cut down on those mistakes, is that he doesn't feel the need to keep on WR completely happy and thus doesn't just force things to anyone to try and get them involved.

TO was a fantastic player here. He's been a fantastic player for his career. He's not what he used to be but he still makes some plays for Buffalo.

I loved watching the guy play. As much as anyone. I still do love watching him play on the rare occassion I get a Buffalo game here.

But all that said the guy is all about himself. Where as Roy is happy the team won a game, when he only gets 2 catches for 15 yards and a TD, TO would have been PISSED OFF that he didn't have 8 catches for 115 yards and 2 TDs.

TO wants to win, and I think most people see that, but TO doesn't want to win at the expense of his own personal numbers. If you gave the guy the choice of a season where he had 85 catches for 1300 yards and 13 TDs but the team didn't win the Superbowl and a season where he maybe only catches 60 passes for 1050 yards an 8 TDs but the team won the Superbowl he's going to take the bigger number season everytime.

People will debate that but he's shown it with his complaining and actions on more than one occassion in the past. If he's not the central focus of an offense he's incredibly unhappy and voices that unhappiness.

Teams don't need that sort of junk. If TO could have ever just learned to keep his mouth shut, and not say everything he felt, and more importantly realise that even on times when he wasn't trying to be a distraction that the best thing for him was to not speak cause the media would try and make him into one, then he'd have been just fine.

He'd still be here catching passes from Tony Romo instead of freezing in Buffalo and hoping that Ryan Fitzpatrick can continue to get him the ball.

TO is a great football player. One of the best WR's ever. But TO is also his own worst enemy and it cost him being in Dallas.

 

[thechosen1n2]

In 2006 and 2007? You bet he did.

In 2008? No sir.

The guy is an albatross. Good riddance.

We get it you are glad he is gone but dont ignore the facts. Witten was our leading receiver last year, and his numbers were down from the previous year, along with TOs, Craytons, and we wont even discuss Roy Williams. QB play, and play calling had been caught up with. A decline in all would point to the fact that its not just the decline of one receiver.

You are right about one thing though...TO would not be worth another contract.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Wrong. Your hate blinds you.

Dude. It's football. It doesn't provide sufficient reason to hate anybody.

He put up all-pro numbers while he was here and was worth the money.

You would rather have an overpaid WR in his 20's who sucks over an "overpaid" WR at 36 who doesn't. Good thing you aren't running a team. They would call for your head.

Past tense.

He doesn't put up all-pro numbers anymore. Having had all-pro numbers at some point in the past is not the sole prerequisite for signing someone to a huge contract. If it were, why not sign Jerry Rice? Heck, let's see what Drew Pearson is doing; after all, he was all-pro at one point.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I would not want either as one sucks and the other is on the decline and a team cancer.

The thing that the TO lovers just don't grasp is, just because people are glad TO is gone, it does not mean they like Roy Williams or think Roy Williams is good.

TO is on the decline and combine that with him being a team cancer he was not worth his contract.

Now we don't have to constantly force the ball to one WR so they don't have a temper tantrum and create a boat load of turn overs just to satisfy his ego.

The ball gets spread around. Just because Roy Williams sucks and is overpaid it does not make it ok to want TO back when the team is just as good in some areas and MUCH better in other areas with him gone.

TO is gone and no amount of your whining and attention trolling will make a difference...get over it or at the very least be consistent and not wait until about the half way point before you start spouting off on the greatness of TO when he finally has a decent game or two for the season.

Your incessant whining and trolling is old.

What? You don't adore Brady Quinn?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

What? You don't adore Brady Quinn?

No I don't have man lust for ND QBs :laugh2:

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

No I don't have man lust for ND QBs :laugh2:

Speaking of Domer studs.....

Where is Jimmy going? I would hate to see him in a Skins uniform. My guess is the Rams.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Speaking of Domer studs.....

Where is Jimmy going? I would hate to see him in a Skins uniform. My guess is the Rams.

To get a steak to put on his eye?:

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

To get a steak to put on his eye?:

He needs it. Tried to wear the visor during the Stanford game to cover it up.

Ouch. Not sure why a ND "fan" would punch Jimmy. Should have punched the entire defense.

 

[joseephuss]

Speaking of Domer studs.....

Where is Jimmy going? I would hate to see him in a Skins uniform. My guess is the Rams.

Being a domer stud at QB doesn't make you ready to be a good NFL QB. Joe Montana was the last great NFL QB to come out of ND. Steve Beuerlein was a decent one, but he did not play at a high level for that long. There was a reason he played for 6 different franchises. Rick Mirer was average at best. The rest have sucked.

 

[mldardy]

Speaking of Domer studs.....

Where is Jimmy going? I would hate to see him in a Skins uniform. My guess is the Rams.

Who cares where he goes. He'll follow in the same line as Brady Quinn and suck.

 

[Hostile]

We get it you are glad he is gone but dont ignore the facts. Witten was our leading receiver last year, and his numbers were down from the previous year, along with TOs, Craytons, and we wont even discuss Roy Williams. QB play, and play calling had been caught up with. A decline in all would point to the fact that its not just the decline of one receiver.

You are right about one thing though...TO would not be worth another contract.

To me the most salient fact is that we became a better team without his baggage. I appreciated what he gave us in 2006 and 2007. In 2008 he was a disaster and Jerry made the absolute right move. We are a better football team with him gone.

 

[Hostile]

Speaking of Domer studs.....

Where is Jimmy going? I would hate to see him in a Skins uniform. My guess is the Rams.

I heard the Commanders are very high on him.

 

[Cover 2]

The problem the TO people have is they don't realize the effect chemistry plays in winning games. When TO is constantly screaming at Romo to get the ball, and the FO seem to be backing him up, Romo is going to force an inordinate amount of passes to him to the detriment of the team. That caused him to throw more interceptions.

Then look at Miles Austin. Extremely talented, but he doesn't care about stats. He just wants to win. I'll take a Miles Austin over a TO any day.

 

[dbair1967]

Speaking of Domer studs.....

Where is Jimmy going? I would hate to see him in a Skins uniform. My guess is the Rams.

Who cares where he goes...hopefully he does go to the Deadskins

He'll be as mediocre as that other golden domer impersonating a NFL QB in Cleveland

 

[dbair1967]

I heard the Commanders are very high on him.

Which further confirms my thoughts on his NFL ability, err, in-ability

 

[Joe Realist]

How is Eldorado doing tonight?

 

[Joe Realist]

To me the most salient fact is that we became a better team without his baggage. I appreciated what he gave us in 2006 and 2007. In 2008 he was a disaster and Jerry made the absolute right move. We are a better football team with him gone.

Some people wont get it. They only see the " stats " on the field (which went down in 2008 anyway) and fail to realize what affect a polarizing personality can have on some and at same time how influential (not in a good way) he can be on others. He is not the ONLY reason this team has failed but our team needed to keep growing and he needed to be going.....