Tom Landry wiki page is awesome

[big dog cowboy]

Three Super Bowl appearances in 4 years, and 5 out of 9.

How's Jerry Jones doing right now? 1 playoff win in 18 years ???

You just can't help yourself can you?

 

[atlantacowboy]

I am 43 years old and thought I knew most stuff about the Legend. Still learning.

The guy was a force of nature. He invented the flex defense and a variation of the shot gun snap when nobody else in the league was using it. He coached both sides of the ball. No DC or OC.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Tom Landry was a great man. I wish I had been around to see him coach.

On Veteran's Day I honor his memory!

 

[yesfan]

Landry had the Cowboys in the playoffs in something like 20 straight years. Always looked forward to seeing him every Sunday standing on the sidelines. He was in a class of his own.

 

[Future]

Thats why Landry is in the pro football hall of fame and Jerry never will be. lol

I don't think thats an apples to apples comparison.

Jerry will probably end up in the HoF when all is said and done.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I think just about every able bodied man of his generation served in the military.

There is a reason they call it The Greatest Generation. Sacrifices made for the greater good in life and treasure, then enacting the Marshal Plan to rebuild Europe with America's money, and then taking that to Japan is a major factor in why we are able to be here arguing about a silly kid's game.

Landry was one of the men who stood up and told the world this tyranny ends here and now.

One has to wonder if this is even the same country as back then.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Jerry will probably end up in the HoF when all is said and done.

For being really rich? Jerry is a walking national media punchline. He doesn't have the respect to get into the HOF.

 

[jazzcat22]

Landry had the Cowboys in the playoffs in something like 20 straight years. Always looked forward to seeing him every Sunday standing on the sidelines. He was in a class of his own.

Landry had 20 straight winning seasons.
I think the St. L. Cardinals won the division by one game over Dallas. But can't remember what year. I will need to look it up.
Cowboys missed the playoffs that year.

 

[skinsscalper]

Growing up Landry was an inspiration of how the game should be played and how to conduct yourself as a person on and off the field. I was lucky enough to hear him speak at a Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

+1

I was fortunate enough to have that same experience.

 

[jazzcat22]

In 1965, Cowboys were 7-7.
Then from 1966 to 1985 had winning records. Only 2years they did not make the playoffs. 1974 they were 8-6, 1984 they were 9-7. Both times they finished 3rd in the division.
1986 they finished 7-9. The year they started like 6-1 or 6-2, then Danny White broke his wrist, and then it all fell apart from there.

 

[skinsscalper]

For being really rich? Jerry is a walking national media punchline. He doesn't have the respect to get into the HOF.

Whoa there, bro. Jerry's contribution to this league goes waaaaaaay beyond the success of the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry revolutionized the way teams and the league generates revenue. The guy has earned some of the flack he gets from the fans but has been instrumental in the growth of the NFL since the day he took ownership. That alone would and should get him into the HOF. And trust me, he has a ton of respect within the ownership circles. He's helped them make a ton of money.

 

[xwalker]

Three Super Bowl appearances in 4 years, and 5 out of 9.

How's Jerry Jones doing right now? 1 playoff win in 18 years ???

I don't think Super Bowls are a good indicator of Landry's career. He won 2 in 29 years. Jimmy won 2 in 5 years.

 

[skinsscalper]

There is a reason they call it The Greatest Generation. Sacrifices made for the greater good in life and treasure, then enacting the Marshal Plan to rebuild Europe with America's money, and then taking that to Japan is a major factor in why we are able to be here arguing about a silly kid's game.

Landry was one of the men who stood up and told the world this tyranny ends here and now.

One has to wonder if this is even the same country as back then.

It's not and it's not even close. The volume of youth that would be needed for such a commitment today are far too myopic and self involved to ever look beyond themselves and their facebook page to ever make that type of sacrifice on such a large scale. I have a ton of respect for all the Veterans of this country, both past and present, but I have a special kind of respect for the kids that are doing it right now because they are serving in a society that is becoming more "me, me, me" by the day. Military service, for the most part, is about self sacrifice. **** you can't get the average young person to travel to the woods to cut firewood to help heat their home for the winter if their isn't a 4g connection to post their selfies of themselves "wrkn the chnsw, yo".

 

[atlantacowboy]

Whoa there, bro. Jerry's contribution to this league goes waaaaaaay beyond the success of the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry revolutionized the way teams and the league generates revenue. The guy has earned some of the flack he gets from the fans but has been instrumental in the growth of the NFL since the day he took ownership. That alone would and should get him into the HOF. And trust me, he has a ton of respect within the ownership circles. He's helped them make a ton of money.

As an owner, maybe. As a GM, no way. But remember, his fellow owners may love him for making them richer, but they aren't the ones voting for the HOF. Jerry has been an object of not just local but national derision among fans and media for about 15 years. Nobody with any credibility believes he built those super bowl teams. I know Jimmy Johnson doesn't beleive it. lol

 

[skinsscalper]

As an owner, maybe. As a GM, no way. But remember, his fellow owners may love him for making them richer, but they aren't the ones voting for the HOF. Jerry has been an object of not just local but national derision among fans and media for about 15 years. Nobody with any credibility believes he built those super bowl teams. I know Jimmy Johnson doesn't beleive it. lol

Even the dumbest of the dumb realize Jones' contribution to the league. He won't need a single vote from the owners to get in. For the record, I don't think there's a single "GM" in the history of the league in the HOF. I could be wrong but I don't think so.

Also, sans Robert Kraft, no other owner has won 3 Super Bowls in four years. Sit and debate the "who did what" to get there all you want. Bottom line is that if Jerry Jones doesn't buy the Cowboys it never happens. Jimmy had the luxury of an owner who was willing to spend whatever it took to win in an era when owners were doing everything in their power to hold on to every nickel that they possibly could (check out the "cheap" history of this very team for any evidence). Jimmy doesn't sniff a Super Bowl without Jerry Jones and that's a fact. No other owner in the league would have given Jimmy the latitude to do what he did here in Dallas. Jimmy would have spent his entire tenure in the league looking just like the guy that ended his career in Miami. No doubt about it. Or you could just bandy about the the same old tired line of "Jimmy did it all!". Ignorance is bliss.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Even the dumbest of the dumb realize Jones' contribution to the league. He won't need a single vote from the owners to get in. For the record, I don't think there's a single "GM" in the history of the league in the HOF. I could be wrong but I don't think so.

Also, sans Robert Kraft, no other owner has won 3 Super Bowls in four years. Sit and debate the "who did what" to get there all you want. Bottom line is that if Jerry Jones doesn't buy the Cowboys it never happens. Jimmy had the luxury of an owner who was willing to spend whatever it took to win in an era when owners were doing everything in their power to hold on to every nickel that they possibly could (check out the "cheap" history of this very team for any evidence). Jimmy doesn't sniff a Super Bowl without Jerry Jones and that's a fact. No other owner in the league would have given Jimmy the latitude to do what he did here in Dallas. Jimmy would have spent his entire tenure in the league looking just like the guy that ended his career in Miami. No doubt about it. Or you could just bandy about the the same old tired line of "Jimmy did it all!". Ignorance is bliss.

Hillarious. Do you do comedy on the side? You realize you are alone on an island with this opinion right?

 

[skinsscalper]

Hillarious. Do you do comedy on the side? You realize you are alone on an island with this opinion right?

You realize that you look more ignorant with every reply on the matter, right?

 

[atlantacowboy]

You realize that you look more ignorant with every reply on the matter, right?

I agree that Jerry buying the cowboys gave Jimmy Johnson the opportunity to do what he did. But, that about it. If you knew anything about the history of that era you would know that there was an agreement between Jerry and Jimmy when they first arrived in Dallas. Jimmy handled football and had complete autonomy over the roster and roster decisions. Jerry handled the business. Jerry was fresh out of the oil business in 1989. I find it hilarious that people still to this day beleive Jerry had much to do with those super bowl teams. He was an owner and he signed checks.

Jimmy left Dallas b/c in contract extension negotiations Jerry was trying to take back some of the authority he gave Jimmy in the first contract. Jerry wanted to be more involved and get more of the glory due Johnson. He was flat out jealous. Ever heard of Tony Casillas? Well, Jerry didn't know who he was until Jimmy wanted to acquire him. Jerry trying to take credit for that trade was one of the last straws.

So, you want to give Jerry a big kudos for hiring the guy who built the 90's dynasty? Fine. But, he was also the guy whose thirst for football recognition imploded that dynasty.

 

[skinsscalper]

I agree that Jerry buying the cowboys gave Jimmy Johnson the opportunity to do what he did. But, that about it. If you knew anything about the history of that era you would know that there was an agreement between Jerry and Jimmy when they first arrived in Dallas. Jimmy handled football and had complete autonomy over the roster and roster decisions. Jerry handled the business. Jerry was fresh out of the oil business in 1989. I find it hilarious that people still to this day beleive Jerry had much to do with those super bowl teams. He was an owner and he signed checks.

Jimmy left Dallas b/c in contract extension negotiations Jerry was trying to take back some of the authority he gave Jimmy in the first contract. Jerry wanted to be more involved and get more of the glory due Johnson. He was flat out jealous. Ever heard of Tony Casillas? Well, Jerry didn't know who he was until Jimmy wanted to acquire him. Jerry trying to take credit for that trade was one of the last straws.

So, you want to give Jerry a big kudos for hiring the guy who built the 90's dynasty? Fine. But, he was also the guy whose thirst for football recognition imploded that dynasty.

You realize that Jimmy had a foot out the door before Jerry EVER tried to sign him to a contract extension, right? He was flirting with the expansion Jacksonville franchise so that he could get back to his beloved state of Florida and it's precisely why Jones started even talking about a contract extension.Subsequently, Jimmy go this wish and ended up in Miami a short year later. Jimmy had as much to do with "imploding that dynasty" as Jerry did. If YOU "knew anything about the history of that era" you'd stop embarrassing yourself with your silly posturing.

Were egos involved? Absolutely. Was that factor a major contributor to the demise of that particular era? You bet, on both sides. The fact of the matter is Jimmy without Jerry and Jerry without Jimmy equals two also rans who don't amount to a pile of **** without each other. Debate that all you want. You'll still be wrong.

 

[atlantacowboy]

You realize that Jimmy had a foot out the door before Jerry EVER tried to sign him to a contract extension, right? He was flirting with the expansion Jacksonville franchise so that he could get back to his beloved state of Florida and it's precisely why Jones started even talking about a contract extension.Subsequently, Jimmy go this wish and ended up in Miami a short year later. Jimmy had as much to do with "imploding that dynasty" as Jerry did. If YOU "knew anything about the history of that era" you'd stop embarrassing yourself with your silly posturing.

Were egos involved? Absolutely. Was that factor a major contributor to the demise of that particular era? You bet, on both sides. The fact of the matter is Jimmy without Jerry and Jerry without Jimmy equals two also rans who don't amount to a pile of **** without each other. Debate that all you want. You'll still be wrong.

Ridiculous position. Johnson was flirting with j-ville b/c Jerry was antagonizing him. You think Johnson voluntarily walked away from a chance to 3-peat? No way buddy. Jimmy was a winner before he came to Dallas and his reputation is in tact to this day. Jerry's not so much.........unless your talking about a buffoon.

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