Tommy Crowder

[Dallas4ever]

Speed, tremendous, light's out speed..best on the team..and a couple of high instinct aggressive st preseason games plays.

Bill may have critiqued his tackling, but that can be fixed.

I still think Tuna considers him 'a football player' , even if a project, and will try to get him on that ps.

I saw Crowder make a play or two but he doesn't have the versatility that's needed to warrant a position. He'll be fortunate to make the PS imo.

 

[Hailmary]

I saw Crowder make a play or two but he doesn't have the versatility that's needed to warrant a position. He'll be fortunate to make the PS imo.

His position would have been ST Ace, cause how often does the #5 WR see the field anyway.

 

[godofwar]

His position would have been ST Ace, cause how often does the #5 WR see the field anyway.

Well, I've been known to run a 5 receiver wet in Madden. :

 

[kaboy]

I liked this kid too. Seemed like he got a lot of attention early in camp for catching everything in sight. Tuna grilled him a little bit for his tackling but he also said any coach would love to have his speed. I think they will try to get on the PS.

 

[Dallas4ever]

His position would have been ST Ace, cause how often does the #5 WR see the field anyway.

You gotta be able to tackle to be considered a ST ace.

 

[CactusCowboy]

Man, I really like Crowder, hoping we can get him on PS.

 

[Hailmary]

You gotta be able to tackle to be considered a ST ace.

A small technicality that he no doubt would have overcome!

 

[junk]

Speed, tremendous, light's out speed..best on the team..and a couple of high instinct aggressive st preseason games plays.

Bill may have critiqued his tackling, but that can be fixed.

I still think Tuna considers him 'a football player' , even if a project, and will try to get him on that ps.

I loved Crowder's speed.....however, he couldn't make plays. Needs to learn to tackle.

 

[Yeagermeister]

He'll be brought back on the PS so cheer up little buckeroo

 

[PullMyFinger]

Sheesh LTN with all that love for Crowder, Woody might get jealous...... :

 

[baj1dallas]

You gotta be able to tackle to be considered a ST ace.

You guys say that...but I am here to tell you, Crowder can hit. Now, he is not a textbook tackler...but he's got the ability to pop somebody...I have seen him do it plenty.

LTN...don't cry over this, I think hopefully because of what Parcells said about his tackling, that he doesn't get picked up and makes it to the practice squad. A year later he will have a much better shot to make the team.

go Tom Crowder! Woooo pig soeee :

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You guys say that...but I am here to tell you, Crowder can hit. Now, he is not a textbook tackler...but he's got the ability to pop somebody...I have seen him do it plenty.

LTN...don't cry over this, I think hopefully because of what Parcells said about his tackling, that he doesn't get picked up and makes it to the practice squad. A year later he will have a much better shot to make the team.

go Tom Crowder! Woooo pig soeee :

baj1, I realize Tommy's appropriate place at this time is on the PS.

Bill seems to use his ps a little more on the churning side than the raw player development side..witness his conments on how you always want a developmental 'type', but near ready oline guy on the ps, but I hope he does see TC as something potentially very special.

No one wants to see another Randall Williams feeding from the trough for three years..but Tommy is more of a sheer 'football player' than RW ever was, or will be.

I have faith he'll be on the ps.

There oughta be room for his potential impact, as well as his speed.

 

[Fletch]

LaTuna, do ya think Parcells will tell Crowder not to answer his cell phone or talk to anyone until he can get squared away on our practice squad? I have a sneaky suspicion that Tom makes it, and stays with us.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

LaTuna, do ya think Parcells will tell Crowder not to answer his cell phone or talk to anyone until he can get squared away on our practice squad? I have a sneaky suspicion that Tom makes it, and stays with us.

I'm hoping he told Tommy to wait it out by driving out for a pizza... no delivery ...and recommended his favorite pizza parlour when he coached NE..Caserta's on Federal Hill in Providence, RI.

By the time Tommy has wolfed down the last anchovie, he'll be a Cowboy again. And have met some interesting mafiosi

 

[Dallas4ever]

I'm hoping he told Tommy to wait it out by driving out for a pizza... no delivery ...and recommended his favorite pizza parlour when he coached NE..Caserta's on Federal Hill in Providence, RI.

By the time Tommy has wolfed down the last anchovie, he'll be a Cowboy again. And have met some interesting mafiosi

I wish Tommy could hit like Lynn Scott or Lynn could run like Tommy. You think if Tommy bulked up a little we could use him as a free safety.....seriously.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I wish Tommy could hit like Lynn Scott or Lynn could run like Tommy. You think if Tommy bulked up a little we could use him as a free safety.....seriously.

I sure dunno, 4ever.

I do know that figuring out what to do with a specials team demon or a college QB with speed inevitably comes down to db or wo.

And I've seen that with Bill, his instinct is to go db... as he did with Scott Frost, the Nebraska qb who he tried to make into a free safety, assuming he'd be able to read the QB and have the right instincts...kid had stiff hips tho, and couldn't make it.

With Ray Lucas in NE, and later NY, BP first sent Ray to his defensive coordinator Belichick, who sent him back to Tuna after one afternoon, with a firm "no thanks'. Lucas then got played around with as a wideout, til he finally convinced Bill throwing a pass at Rutgers did not disqualify you from trying the QB position in the NFL.

In reality, Tuna kept him around for years solely on his specials contributions. He was THAT good. Unless the game has changed so much you just can't use a roster spot on a ST ace who does not return, I am hoping that is the precedent Crowder follows. And btw, Lucas was no sure tackler..Bill turned him into one - what mattered was Ray Ray LOVED TO HIT. So does Tom Tom.

I have to have faith in the coaching staff to have soundly enough evaluated Tommy to believe he has a better shot at receiver than db. After what Bill did to Zim last year with db lack of talent, if Zim said in five minutes 'no thanks', who could blame him? Plus we know from our dear friend HH Zim is no developer of dbs..so maybe it was Bowles decided it.

Anyway, the brain trust sees TC as a receiver, and I trust their take..it's fundmentally, tho not exclusively, an act rather than react position , so perhaps the transition will be smoother...it was reported TC worked his tail off this offseason, and was trying to model himself on Terry..I have no idea what will come of it, but all summer I have been working my addled brain around how Tommy can 'fit', trying to see the parallels with what Bill did in the past when he saw something special in a similar player...

...it will all come down to how special TC really is in Tuna's mind, I guess.

 

[Chief]

Speed, tremendous, light's out speed..best on the team..and a couple of high instinct aggressive st preseason games plays.

Bill may have critiqued his tackling, but that can be fixed.

I still think Tuna considers him 'a football player' , even if a project, and will try to get him on that ps.

They're not playing along, are they?

They don't understand.

I, too, am very disappointed that Crowder didn't make it. A great athlete with superior special teams instincts.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

They're not playing along, are they?

They don't understand.

I, too, am very disappointed that Crowder didn't make it. A great athlete with superior special teams instincts.

Chief, I've never been privy to a coaching meeting on cut down day, and never will be, but I've seen on tv a few, notably the Boys' Hard Knocks special, and read about enough to know a player needs a coach who will FIGHT for him when he's on the bubble.

Some coaches fight more than others, I guess..I know in NY Mike Westhoff thows a hissy fit over guys he wants and usually gets them...that's why he gets a first rounder used on a OSU kicker, and has a high ranked ST unit every year.

I don't know for sure if DeHaven went to bat for Tom Tom, or to what extent.

But my feeling is the 'lunging tackles' did Crowder in, even if DeHaven sang and danced to keep him.

The right place for TC right now is ps...he is raw...let's just cross our fingers no other team thinks it's THEIR ps he belongs on.

 

[Banned_n_austin]

QD, this is my official Tommy C pity-party thread.

Is it cool if we give Tommy Crowder some props in this thread?

 

[Nors]

Crowder, Copper - not too be harsh but they are a dime a dozen long shot. Good story and all.

Me - Give me Peerless Price all day everyday over Crowder.
Last thing in the world I want to see is an injury and Copper/Crowder in my WR rotation. Period.

Lastly, Parcells is old school and wants his DB's, S's, LB's to play prominant roles on ST.

And that tackling comment he threw at the kid reflects the fact he's real, real skeptical on WR's as "tacklers"......