Tonight just confirms what we already knew...

[theogt]

You're welcome. You should have heard the stink I put up when we signed him then when we kept him. I thought he was terrible with the Jets his last year there and he was injured. I got told he was solid and not injury prone. That it was a good signing.

Parcells: "I could turn him backwards and he wouldn't give up 15 sacks."

Enjoy.

I still don't understand why anyone was upset that we signed a veteran backup tackle to be a veteran backup tackle. He was a better option than what we had on the roster at the time. Now he's gone because we drafted a better option than him.

It's not like we were counting on him. He was solid depth.

 

[firehawk350]

We made one mistake, hopefully we won't make the other. Honestly, I don't see how we'd keep him. He was getting owned by scrubs.

 

[AbeBeta]

I still don't understand why anyone was upset that we signed a veteran backup tackle to be a veteran backup tackle. He was a better option than what we had on the roster at the time. Now he's gone because we drafted a better option than him.

It's not like we were counting on him. He was solid depth.

I liked the move, we got screwed for not having any depth the previous year. Something had to be done.

What I didn't like was how we lost Petitti because of the move. I felt he had a shot to be a decent player.

 

[superpunk]

We made one mistake, hopefully we won't make the other. Honestly, I don't see how we'd keep him. He was getting owned by scrubs.

What mistake did you make?

 

[theogt]

What I didn't like was how we lost Petitti because of the move. I felt he had a shot to be a decent player.

I didn't.

 

[Hostile]

I still don't understand why anyone was upset that we signed a veteran backup tackle to be a veteran backup tackle. He was a better option than what we had on the roster at the time. Now he's gone because we drafted a better option than him.

It's not like we were counting on him. He was solid depth.

Because it was wasted money on a guy who was injured and not very good.

If he didn't have History with Parcells he wouldn't have even gotten a sniff. That bothered me and still does.

Improve the situation...fine. Look beyond a former player. It was ridiculous that every time a former Parcells player was a Free Agent every major news outlet in the country speculated on them landing in Dallas.

I didn't want him and am thrilled we never had to use him.

 

[superpunk]

Because it was wasted money on a guy who was injured and not very good.

If he didn't have History with Parcells he wouldn't have even gotten a sniff. That bothered me and still does.

Or it might just have been that we had a need for depth at tackle.

Improve the situation...fine. Look beyond a former player. It was ridiculous that every time a former Parcells player was a Free Agent every major news outlet in the country speculated on them landing in Dallas.

I didn't want him and am thrilled we never had to use him.

This is not an isolated situation. If defensive players from San Diego are available, we'll hear the same thing. When the Raiders cut a player, it's assumed (or was) that Gruden would look at them. All coaches have the same thing.

Why?

Plug and play capability. They can just bring these guys in - they already know the drill, they know the scheme, they know their responsibilities and the terminology.

It's not some great evil. It's just common sense.

 

[Hostile]

Or it might just have been that we had a need for depth at tackle.


This is not an isolated situation. If defensive players from San Diego are available, we'll hear the same thing. When the Raiders cut a player, it's assumed (or was) that Gruden would look at them. All coaches have the same thing.

Why?

Plug and play capability. They can just bring these guys in - they already know the drill, they know the scheme, they know their responsibilities and the terminology.

It's not some great evil. It's just common sense.

And Jason Fabini was the only OT on the market right?

I have no issue with upgrading. I had an issue with him being the upgrade, because he isn't. He's shot. He was shot in 2005. He was horrible in the 2006 Camps. He was horrible the other night for the Skins.

I'm not shocked. It must be common sense.

 

[theogt]

And Jason Fabini was the only OT on the market right?

I'm not sure. Was there a better OT on the market when we signed him? I don't recall any off-hand.

 

[Vintage]

I'm not sure. Was there a better OT on the market when we signed him? I don't recall any off-hand.

We'll, we lost Mr. Rob "**** it, you may as well try to spin me backwards and see if I can block better" Pettiti....

And kept Fabini.

Maybe there were better options. Dunno.

But it was an upgrade.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm not sure. Was there a better OT on the market when we signed him? I don't recall any off-hand.

Well, for a while we were talking about bringing Jacob Rogers back for another shot.

 

[Hostile]

I'm not sure. Was there a better OT on the market when we signed him? I don't recall any off-hand.

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think this guy was the best option available, but that's just me.

Here's something else, I'd like to challenge Parcells' opinion that he could turn him around backwards and still not give up 15 sacks. I'd bet Parcells a lot of money and give him odds on that one. I believe that without help from other blockers that guys like Jason Taylor, DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman could rack up close to 15 sacks in one game against that guy facing backwards. It was a funny quote and all but it was all bluff, bluster, and empty show. Like so much of Parcells wisecracks turned out to be.

This guy has been bad since 2005. I don't know why anyone could think they'll somehow convince me that he was our best option. Even as a backup.

 

[theogt]

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think this guy was the best option available, but that's just me.

Here's something else, I'd like to challenge Parcells' opinion that he could turn him around backwards and still not give up 15 sacks. I'd bet Parcells a lot of money and give him odds on that one. I believe that without help from other blockers that guys like Jason Taylor, DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman could rack up close to 15 sacks in one game against that guy facing backwards. It was a funny quote and all but it was all bluff, bluster, and empty show. Like so much of Parcells wisecracks turned out to be.

This guy has been bad since 2005. I don't know why anyone could think they'll somehow convince me that he was our best option. Even as a backup.

You're right. He probably would suck if he played backwards.

 

[Vintage]

I find it hard to believe that anyone could think this guy was the best option available, but that's just me.

Here's something else, I'd like to challenge Parcells' opinion that he could turn him around backwards and still not give up 15 sacks. I'd bet Parcells a lot of money and give him odds on that one. I believe that without help from other blockers that guys like Jason Taylor, DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman could rack up close to 15 sacks in one game against that guy facing backwards. It was a funny quote and all but it was all bluff, bluster, and empty show. Like so much of Parcells wisecracks turned out to be.

This guy has been bad since 2005. I don't know why anyone could think they'll somehow convince me that he was our best option. Even as a backup.

Oh, cmon. It wasn't mean to be literal.

He was just trying to convey that Fabini is not in the same realm of suckiness that consumed Pettiti.

 

[superpunk]

And Jason Fabini was the only OT on the market right?

The only one? At this point, that isn't impossible to know, but it's pretty darn hard. We did sign him late, so it's not as though our cup overfloweth with tackle prospects. And in such an instance, why not just grab a vet who you know? One who can help your rehabbing Marc Colombo and the other linemen? One who you can move into a TE spot midseason as a lead blocker.

What's the big deal with that? Did this move threaten precious Rob Pettiti? I don't know, but I don't understand the vitriol. One of our favorite responses around here when some ******* is running his "We need to replace Brad Johnson (or insert player you hate here)" is "Who would you have rather grabbed.

It's very rare that anyone actually has a legitimate alternative.

Fabini came in. Hopefully he taught Colombo a thing or two. He was a more comforting prospect (shot or not) than Rob Pettiti if Colombo got hurt. There was no downside to the pickup, and it didn't hurt us at all.

So again, I don't understand the vitriol. It's not always a terrible thing to get Parcells guys in here. They've helped us alot.

 

[Hostile]

The only one? At this point, that isn't impossible to know, but it's pretty darn hard. We did sign him late, so it's not as though our cup overfloweth with tackle prospects. And in such an instance, why not just grab a vet who you know? One who can help your rehabbing Marc Colombo and the other linemen? One who you can move into a TE spot midseason as a lead blocker.

What's the big deal with that? Did this move threaten precious Rob Pettiti? I don't know, but I don't understand the vitriol. One of our favorite responses around here when some ******* is running his "We need to replace Brad Johnson (or insert player you hate here)" is "Who would you have rather grabbed.

It's very rare that anyone actually has a legitimate alternative.

Fabini came in. Hopefully he taught Colombo a thing or two. He was a more comforting prospect (shot or not) than Rob Pettiti if Colombo got hurt. There was no downside to the pickup, and it didn't hurt us at all.

So again, I don't understand the vitriol. It's not always a terrible thing to get Parcells guys in here. They've helped us alot.

Have I mentioned Rob Petitti? I don't think so. Do a search on the name Petitti and see if I mentioned him before the 2 times in this paragraph.

You'll immediately find that I haven't. So you can keep your little jabs about Petitti because they don't fit here. I don't share the petty wars about him that some of you guys have. This is evidence of the old warning about assuming.

I care about one thing, getting better. To this end I have even been thrilled when a personal friend of mine was waived from this team, because the guy who replaced him is magnificent. I have no loyalty to any player, my loyalty is to the team. I just want to get better.

I don't care who we had at RT, I didn't want Fabini. Point blank, I do not think he made us better. Not in any way, shape, or form. I didn't expect him to, and he lived right up to those expectations. If you research my objections to him you will find they were based solely upon his injury. There was nothing personal attached to it. Unlike Parcells past relationship with him. See Ryan Young for another example of an ex-Jet who was going to save the day at RT. I was at least happy about his signing.

None of you can prove I was wrong about that because the truth is that ever since I called him an injured retread he has stunk. Why you think I'll change my mind after he has stunk is beyond me. Frankly you'd have better luck trying to reverse the flow of the Mississippi.

The "vitriol" is because I have the audacity to state my opinions the same as many others do. But when my opinions (or anyone else's) are stated firmly it is seen as "vitriol" or "hatred." There's nothing wrong with that if you don't mind missing the mark by a mile. The guy can't play. He's perfect for the Commanders. I couldn't be happier about that if I focused all my energies on trying to make an effort at it.

 

[Hostile]

Oh, cmon. It wasn't mean to be literal.

He was just trying to convey that Fabini is not in the same realm of suckiness that consumed Pettiti.

I know it wasn't meant to be literal. That is why I pointed out that it was "bluff," "bluster," and "empty show."

 

[superpunk]

Have I mentioned Rob Petitti? I don't think so. Do a search on the name Petitti and see if I mentioned him before the 2 times in this paragraph.

You'll immediately find that I haven't. So you can keep your little jabs about Petitti because they don't fit here. I don't share the petty wars about him that some of you guys have. This is evidence of the old warning about assuming.

Did I say you mentioned Rob Pettiti? I was speaking in generalities. Toughen up, buttercup.

I care about one thing, getting better. To this end I have even been thrilled when a personal friend of mine was waived from this team, because the guy who replaced him is magnificent. I have no loyalty to any player, my loyalty is to the team. I just want to get better.

I know - you tell us like....all the time.

I don't care who we had at RT, I didn't want Fabini. Point blank, I do not think he made us better. Not in any way, shape, or form. I didn't expect him to, and he lived right up to those expectations. If you research my objections to him you will find they were based solely upon his injury. There was nothing personal attached to it. Unlike Parcells past relationship with him. See Ryan Young for another example of an ex-Jet who was going to save the day at RT. I was at least happy about his signing.

None of you can prove I was wrong about that because the truth is that ever since I called him an injured retread he has stunk. Why you think I'll change my mind after he has stunk is beyond me. Frankly you'd have better luck trying to reverse the flow of the Mississippi.

The "vitriol" is because I have the audacity to state my opinions the same as many others do. But when my opinions (or anyone else's) are stated firmly it is seen as "vitriol" or "hatred." There's nothing wrong with that if you don't mind missing the mark by a mile. The guy can't play. He's perfect for the Commanders. I couldn't be happier about that if I focused all my energies on trying to make an effort at it.

He was a better option than Rob Pettiti, which is why we picked him. I don't see where we lost on the deal, where we had to cut another valuable player to keep him, or where his presence on the team hurt anything. He was veteran depth - it wasn't a bad thing. There's no reason to get worked up over something that had no bad effects on our team, and no longer even concerns our team - unless there was some other stud tackle waiting to come to Dallas to be a backup, and we signed Fabini instead. So he sucked - that's what backups do alot of the time. So what?

 

[Hostile]

Did I say you mentioned Rob Pettiti? I was speaking in generalities. Toughen up, buttercup.



I know - you tell us like....all the time.



He was a better option than Rob Pettiti, which is why we picked him. I don't see where we lost on the deal, where we had to cut another valuable player to keep him, or where his presence on the team hurt anything. He was veteran depth - it wasn't a bad thing. There's no reason to get worked up over something that had no bad effects on our team, and no longer even concerns our team - unless there was some other stud tackle waiting to come to Dallas to be a backup, and we signed Fabini instead. So he sucked - that's what backups do alot of the time. So what?

I'll say it one last time. He wasn't the best option. He wasn't even close.

That (and no other imagined reason) is why I am not behind it and never have been. He wasn't worth the hit to the cap.

You won't change my mind.

 

[Vintage]

I'll say it one last time. He wasn't the best option. He wasn't even close.

That (and no other imagined reason) is why I am not behind it and never have been. He wasn't worth the hit to the cap.

You won't change my mind.

Maybe not the best option overall.

But maybe when looking for guys with experience, versatility, cost, etc, he was the best option. And if he wasn't the best option and you are adament about it, clearly, you must have someone on your mind who'd have been better, no?