Tonight just confirms what we already knew...

[Hostile]

Maybe not the best option overall.

But maybe when looking for guys with experience, versatility, cost, etc, he was the best option.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1586959&postcount=139

See the last line of that post.

 

[superpunk]

You won't change my mind.

I guess not. I can't imagine who a better option would have been. I'm not exactly familiar with the members of the "Shoddy backup tackle depth" club circa July 2006. I guess that's why I don't mind that we picked him up - I didn't have another shoddy backup tackle all picked out.

 

[Hostile]

I guess not. I can't imagine who a better option would have been. I'm not exactly familiar with the members of the "Shoddy backup tackle depth" club circa July 2006. I guess that's why I don't mind that we picked him up - I didn't have another shoddy backup tackle all picked out.

In addition to Free Agency there's this concept called the Draft that we could have used.

 

[Vintage]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1586959&postcount=139

See the last line of that post.

I know...

I just wanted to try and understand how you view Fabini as a bad signing. I wouldn't call him a great signing; but I would say it was acceptable.

 

[Hostile]

I know...

I just wanted to try and understand how you view Fabini as a bad signing. I wouldn't call him a great signing; but I would say it was acceptable.

I think he is a better signing for the Commanders because he's going to suck. Just like he did for the Jets in 2005. I hope they keep him and he gets to play.

 

[vicjagger]

The East is a two team race. This may be the worst Washington team this decade (That is saying something), and the Giants will not pose much of a threat after losing their 2 best players

If you are basing this one first pre-season games, consider that Philly (at the end of 3 quarters) has less than 150 yards of total offense and has rushed 16 times for 17 yards.

 

[AmishGangsta]

Well, if we're going to make predictions for the season on week one preseason results alone, it looks like the Eagles are going to be dreadlful, they are getting dominated on both sides of the ball and they've done next to nothing.

 

[Bizwah]

3 for 4 for like 34 yards against the Colts starters. If he does that well against the Broncos, then you'll have something, but frankly, I wasn't all that impressed. He threw 3 dump-offs that were complete and gained some yards. The only throw he had downfield was into double coverage to TO and that was incomplete. When the starters went out and you didn't have to keep the TE into help block Freeney, he abused the Colts with Fasano. If Campbell had the same option (throwing to a TE), we would be talking about a completely different game here. Saunders uses his TEs a lot and are an important part of the game plan. Did you forget that Cooley caught over 70 passes last year???

It's called.....READING THE DEFENSE.

The Colts play a Tampa-style cover two zone. This is designed to keep the ball away from the WRs. The way to attack it is with short passes, and passes to the TE.

Romo did exactly that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Maybe not the best option overall.

But maybe when looking for guys with experience, versatility, cost, etc, he was the best option. And if he wasn't the best option and you are adament about it, clearly, you must have someone on your mind who'd have been better, no?

Superpunk's shadow is at it again

 

[illone]

I agree, it's a two team race.

But, I think the division may come down to week 17.

 

[silverbear]

You can't just add yards on for a given player.

Yeah, it was silly of me to assume that the Titans would be a wee bit more efficient offensively with Vince Young than they were without him...

Then, in that case, can I just add yards on if Portis was healthy???

Not when Betts proved to be a more than adequate substitute... the Titans don't have an even barely adequate substitute for Vince...

Furthermore, you can't project yards based on half a game. I guess in that case, if Betts got a 50 yard gain on one of his runs, WOO-HOO, that's a 200 yard game baby!

If Campbell couldn't make plays, and 2 of those 3 drives ended in Tennessee territory, our rushing attack should have been great, right? No wait, it was pretty bad. So however did that happen???

You guys made one play in each "drive" that led to most of the yardage on each series... there was the 20 yard catch and run by Randle-El on the first series, the 39 yarder downfield to Moss...

Don't know how to break this to ya, but you need to make more than one play per drive to be a good offense... for those two plays, how many sacks were there, and how many Campbell fumbles??

3 for 4 for like 34 yards against the Colts starters.

And 10 for 11 for the game...

When the starters went out and you didn't have to keep the TE into help block Freeney, he abused the Colts with Fasano.

Actually, all the Cowboys' QBs used the TEs to good effect in that game... even Tony Freakin' Curtis had a big game...

When a good QB has a good TE, he tends to USE that good TE...

If Campbell had the same option (throwing to a TE), we would be talking about a completely different game here.

And if my aunt had testicles, she'd be my uncle... it ain't my fault the Skins' tackles were too weak to deal with the deadly pass rushers on the Titans without help...

It was idiocy to leave Heyer out there by himself, but that's just what happened.

Chuckle... one second, you argue that the problem was that Heyer was left "out there by himself", the next you argue that the problem was that the Skins kept Chris Cooley in to help Heyer...

Pick an argument, and stick with it...

One quality back-up??? Yeah, Betts is no good...

Obviously, I was talking about your offensive line, not your team in general... your team in general is also lacking in quality depth, but of course there are a couple-three positions where that's not true, RB being the biggie...

Dude, you don't know what your talking about. We were fourth (or something in that range) for rushing and only 19 sacks given up. Most sources I've seen have them in the top 5.

There isn't a legitimate source out there that would list the Skins' offensive line as a top 5 unit... period...

Your offense was 13th in the league last year, and as I have demonstrated, hasn't been in the top 10 any time in the last 4 years... teams with top 5 offensive lines put up better numbers than that, on a consistent basis...

It's missing one of it's starters, your right. The guy who replaced him is a rookie getting his first snaps.

We started a rookie getting his first snaps at left tackle, and he went up against a much better pass rusher than Heyer did, and he held his own...

It ain't my fault that the Skins were so short-sighted that they HAD to count on an undrafted rookie free agent when their offensive line suffered its first injury... just think about that, this is what happens when the Skins have ONE injury on the OL; what happens if they have more than one??

Wade is a questionable replacement, but again, he's going to take a couple of games to get into the groove of things.

Todd Wade is a below-average offensive guard... he was barely mediocre at tackle, and lacks the requisite skillset to make the move inside (for one thing, he's pretty tall for a guard)...

Wade will be a significant downgrade from Derrick Dockery...

 

[silverbear]

Hahaha, good one dude. Well, here's the skinny from Jason LaCanfora... Most people inside the organization thinks that the Heyer/Wade experiment is over. Word is they are looking to move Wade outside to tackle and they don't know who they want inside at guard. Names that have come up (not in his article) are Ross Tucker and possibly trading for Pete Kendall, who is having contract issues with the Jets. Just thought I'd pass it along...

Color me surprised... so now, the Skins will move Wade out to tackle, where he's not that good either, and hope to fill the hole at guard with either Tucker, another natural tackle who has bounced between 4 teams in 5 seasons in the NFL, the very definition of a "journeyman", or bring in the 290 pound aging vet (34 years old) as a short-term replacement for the 330 pound Dockery...

This means that Wade didn't cut it at guard, which I could have told you before the Skins tried that experiment... it also means that with the season just 4 weeks away, the Skins are gonna be undergoing a massive reshuffling of their offensive line-- that ought to work wonders for the ol' continuity...

BTW, good luck trying to pry Kendall away from the Jets, I have a hunch they're gonna want a high price to be paid... that sounds more like the typical DC media speculation, knowing Danny Boy's proclivity for high-priced vets, any time a hole comes open the mediots go looking for the biggest "name" player at that position to link to the Skins...

IOW, believe it when it happens, though I personally don't quake at the thought of having to go up against a 290 pound guard... the Jets have hardly been a powerhouse offense the last two years, ranking 25th in total offense last season, 20th in rushing offense with a 3.5 yards per carry average, 17th in passing offense... the year before, they ranked 31st in total offense, 31st in rushing offense, against with a 3.5 yards per carry average, 28th in passing offense (30th in the league in sacks allowed, with 53)... so once again, the thought of the Boys having to face the mighty Pete Kendall twice a season does not fill me with terror...

 

[Vintage]

Superpunk's shadow is at it again

Seriously, is this the best insult you can direct at me?

God forbid I disagree with Hostile over something. I also disagree with Hostile on the Brad Johnson/backup QB situation and have expressed that too.

Pretty sure its not in the FAQ or rules that disagreeing with Hostile is not tolerated.

 

[superpunk]

Don't mind summer. He doesn't always get his meds on time.

Sincerely,

Superpunk (Vintage's shadow)

 

[Vintage]

Don't mind summer. He doesn't always get his meds on time.

Sincerely,

Superpunk (Vintage's shadow)

But I am supposed to be your shadow. Can a shadow be a shadow of a shadow?

That's some deep philosophical stuff right there. I think the correct answer to that question is "I think; therfore I am." That, or "7." Tough decision.

 

[Hostile]

Seriously, is this the best insult you can direct at me?

God forbid I disagree with Hostile over something. I also disagree with Hostile on the Brad Johnson/backup QB situation and have expressed that too.

Pretty sure its not in the FAQ or rules that disagreeing with Hostile is not tolerated.

I encourage it. I don't want everyone to agree with me on everything. That would suck.

 

[silverbear]

I encourage it. I don't want everyone to agree with me on everything.

Oh, you do too...

 

[Vintage]

Oh, you do too...

Leave the newly named Elite Kicker Scout alone...