CFZ Tony Pollard vs Saquon Barkley

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Pollard is versatile. But even a versatile RB is still a RB. Not a WR. When Saquon Barkley can’t get more than 12m$, Dalvin Cook is only worth 8m$, and Miles Sanders is 6m$, Pollard getting paid 10m$ is an indication that Dallas is going to ask a lot more of him than he’s previously shown.

When it’s a guy on the bench or a guy who only participates in a fraction of the snaps, versatility is inhibited. You don’t pay a rotational back 10m$, that’s nuts.
Barkley is good but Cook is no longer the back he once was and Sanders never really was anything but a JAG.

But yeah, NFL teams have definitely decided big money at RB is not the way to go. What it shows is that teams feel like you can plug and play at RB whereas you cannot do that at WR. They do need good production from the RB spot.. but feel they can get that for way less money than what top backs want.

WR is not like that.
 

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Pollard is versatile. But even a versatile RB is still a RB. Not a WR. When Saquon Barkley can’t get more than 12m$, Dalvin Cook is only worth 8m$, and Miles Sanders is 6m$, Pollard getting paid 10m$ is an indication that Dallas is going to ask a lot more of him than he’s previously shown.

When it’s a guy on the bench or a guy who only participates in a fraction of the snaps, versatility is inhibited. You don’t pay a rotational back 10m$, that’s nuts.
It's a one-year rental for $10 million. It's irrelevant. They don't need the cap space for this year, so who cares?
 

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Barkley is good but Cook is no longer the back he once was and Sanders never really was anything but a JAG.

But yeah, NFL teams have definitely decided big money at RB is not the way to go. What it shows is that teams feel like you can plug and play at RB whereas you cannot do that at WR. They do need good production from the RB spot.. but feel they can get that for way less money than what top backs want.

WR is not like that.
WR and QB are often joined at the hip...
 

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I don’t know where y’all are getting your info about Pollard at Memphis. Pollard wasn’t even the #2 (Henderson and Patrick Taylor were RB 1-2) He was primarily a receiver and gadget back there.

Having said all that, I think he’ll be just fine as a 15-20 touch guy (rushing + receiving).

The days of handing a ball off to one RB 25x a game are over.
Depends on the RB. You give Derrick Henry the ball 25 times a game. Bijan Robinson will get tons of carries.
 

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I wanted guys like Raschon, Tank Bigsby, Kendre Miller, Isreal Ibanakanda as well.

They could have teamed one of those guys with Pollard and Deuce for this year and then possible moved on from Pollard after this season.
why would we considered moving on from Pollard after this year ?
 

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Depends on the RB. You give Derrick Henry the ball 25 times a game. Bijan Robinson will get tons of carries.
It depends upon your coaches too.
Garrett literally pounded and ran Zeke into the ground since he arrived at a young age and he was gone.
 

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A note to Giants' RB Saquon Barkley - “We have our own killer speed RB too

Speed kills .. Defenses are simply scared to death of those kind of players. I used to hear the late John Madden say: " it's two things that NFL defenses fear the most ... Speed and a running QB. "

Just as Barkley has that kind of instant fear factor speed, and has always put defense on egg shell worries
- so does our own Tony Pollard.. his speed and instant explosiveness was the likely leading reason why we chose to invest far more in Pollard and let Zeke go.

Barkley still has elite burst and long run speed, but I’m not sure he is back to pre-ACL form. He used to be so difficult to wrap and coral to tackle. On a frequent basis, defenders would constantly just slide right off of him in the open field. But I don’t see that near as often now.

But in terms of run instincts, short/goal line power, receiving skills, and elite speed, Saquon is still quite the complete package to deal with.

Pollard: this will be his first year as primary full time starter. And under new OC/play caller direction, we hope to see his full exploits vs being limited under Kellen Moore. Especially as a receiver out of the backfield.

Tony has run instincts and vision, cut back agility, underrated break tackle ability, receiving skills and of course elite burst and speed. Always felt there are only a handful of backs in his league when it came to elite breakaway speed (barkley, taylor,henry, mccaffrey, chubb, cook, kamara and ET in jax)
He's not as powerful in lower body, more difficult to tackle than Barkley, not as good in goal line/short yrd, and we'll have to see if Tony can hold up per 15-20 "touches per game as full time starter in full 17 game season.

We'll see if rookie RBs Bijah Robinson and Gibbs will enter that fray.
Maybe Im wrong but dont recall Barkley ever having a big day against us.
 

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It depends upon your coaches too.
Garrett literally pounded and ran Zeke into the ground since he arrived at a young age and he was gone.
Can you imagine Barkley doing all the things we made Zeke do? Guy wouldn't have lasted 6 weeks.
 

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It's a one-year rental for $10 million. It's irrelevant. They don't need the cap space for this year, so who cares?
I feel its more of a one year audition than rental .

To prove he can be more of a full time back with more touches than a spot change of pace back.

But judging by the predicament of the more recent well established backs having such a difficult with
salary contract deals, I don't expect Pollard's future contract to be any different, any foremost advanced
than any other RB, - other than McCaffrey (16m) and Kamara (15 mi) .
 

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Reportedly Patrick Taylor missed a good half of his senior year 2019, per injury that led Pollard into the fray as RB2.
Pollard was playing for the Cowboys in 2019, lol.
It's so amusing how many fans just post info or a response on a player -
- thinking their recollection is right - instead of just taking a few minutes to do research to back up their opinion...and thus avoiding a blunder.

(I've learned to double-check anything I post in a comment before I post it as fact.)
 

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At virtually everything.
I mean Pollard is talented and criminally underutilized up until now ... but Barkley (when healthy) is \ has been a generational talent. If not for injuries and being the Giants only weapon for a significant portion of his career, he'd probably be on his way to HOF career.
 

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It's so amusing how many fans just post info or a response on a player -
- thinking their recollection is right - instead of just taking a few minutes to do research to back up their opinion...and thus avoiding a blunder.

(I've learned to double-check anything I post in a comment before I post it as fact.)
You've earned a chocolate chip cookie.
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