CFZ Tony Pollard vs Saquon Barkley

[CATCH17]

At this point in both players careers Tony Pollard is a better player than Saquon Barkley.

 

[stilltheguru]

you posted statistics. they can't be from 2023 as it hasn't occurred yet so I assumed they were from 2022 which is a good example of them having no other weapons.

anyone can see that Barkley when healthy is the more complete player.

Still no proof lol. Let me guess, because he was a former 1st rounder? I know that's how most of yall judge players. It's why every bum former 1st rounder gets cut Steohen just has to kick the tire

 

[erod]

At this point in both players careers Tony Pollard is a better player than Saquon Barkley.

No, at this point, Pollard is a healthier player than Barkley. Or at least he was.

 

[erod]

Still no proof lol. Let me guess, because he was a former 1st rounder? I know that's how most of yall judge players. It's why every bum former 1st rounder gets cut Steohen just has to kick the tire

No, because it's obvious.

 

[blueblood70]

I mean Pollard is talented and criminally underutilized up until now ... but Barkley (when healthy) is \ has been a generational talent. If not for injuries and being the Giants only weapon for a significant portion of his career, he'd probably be on his way to HOF career.

Can we stop overrating the guy he was overrated when he came into the league he still overrated you say the injuries are holding him back the injuries are part of whether you can be considered generational or not he's not had any special seasons show me where's all this rushing crowns where's all this top Billings like where his his signature games he is not generational he's just a very very good back.. The stuff that Elliot did back-to-back years in college and then the third year in a row what he did in his rookie year that's what you call a generational back he could have won three rushing crowns had he not got suspended right out of college that had been like five years most running backs could never have done with that much carries.. There's a reason emmitt Smiths #1 because of his longevity he stayed healthy I'm sorry but yes saquon Barkley is a very good running back he is not generational not even in the lowest sense.. There are so many backs like him that you can't call him generational he's done not one thing special show me what special things he's done in the NFL? I mean if you think he's special then dalvin cook is generational as well and he's not these are just very good running backs but if you do what Ezekiel Elliott did back-to-back 1800 yard games at Ohio State in a big conference and putting up 200 yard games in the college playoffs when he had no quarterback he literally was their offense then comes in and does what he does it's a rookie here and then basically the first four years in the league he was the best running back in the league..

And yet our own fanbase says that Elliott was overrated no Elliott was generational but he was overused in college and in the pros and had a shorter career...
.
And by the way Christian McCaffrey 's always injured too very good running back as well very much like saquan Barkley however at least he's had one special year didn't he have a year over 1000 rushing and 1000 receiving in the same year and was considered for the MVP that's what you call a special season and I don't think Christian McCaffrey 's generational..

 

[stilltheguru]

No, because it's obvious.

it's so obvious you can't name 2 things he does better. I like that grown man logic

 

[erod]

it's so obvious you can't name 2 things he does better. I like that grown man logic

Most importantly, he can carry the ball more than 15 times before telling the coaches he's too tired. Pollard has done this know than once.

He also runs tougher inside. Pass blocks better much better vision. Know elusive.

Good gawd, man. This is simple and commonly known. Put your pom poms down.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

And just imagine, ..Barkley also had Jason Garrett as his OC play caller he took the Giants role
after his dismissal in Dallas.

Oh yeah...the one they promptly FIRED. I remember now.

 

[stilltheguru]

Most importantly, he can carry the ball more than 15 times before telling the coaches he's too tired. Pollard has done this know than once.

He also runs tougher inside. Pass blocks better much better vision. Know elusive.

Good gawd, man. This is simple and commonly known. Put your pom poms down.

You have nothing to back that up. Shouldn't the tougher runner break more tackles? Just asking questions

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

it's so obvious you can't name 2 things he does better. I like that grown man logic

Don't you just love that..."it's so obvious"...bet can't give a couple examples.

Humans are very odd creatures.

 

[stilltheguru]

Don't you just love that..."it's so obvious"...bet can't give a couple examples.

Humans are very odd creatures.

now they're playing the "if you can't see it you're blind" card. Lol. I thought when something was obvious and not even close it could be easily proven.

 

[erod]

My gawd, we're actually having a conversation about Barkley versus Pollard.

If healthy, 32 teams choose Barkley and laugh.

Only on a Cowboys forum. This is why they make fun of us.

 

[mattjames2010]

You can’t pay a RB 10m$ to be a rotational guy, whether or not that’s “what he is.”

The fact that Dallas didn’t bring in another starting-caliber veteran further solidifies they’re going to attempt to give Pollard a feature role.

Contracts don't suddenly change the frame of an RB.

getting Pollard 200 carries and 40-50 receptions is exactly how he should be used.

 

[shabazz]

My gawd, we're actually having a conversation about Barkley versus Pollard.

If healthy, 32 teams choose Barkley and laugh.

Only on a Cowboys forum. This is why they make fun of us.

Saquon vs an “in prime” Zeke would have made a lot more sense to debate.

Tonys a nice piece to the puzzle but has to have a committee type RB corp and with the addition of Vaughn and Dowdle, it may work out well

 

[stilltheguru]

My gawd, we're actually having a conversation about Barkley versus Pollard.

If healthy, 32 teams choose Barkley and laugh.

Only on a Cowboys forum. This is why they make fun of us.

And he still hasn't proven his easy point lol. This is funny

 

[CATCH17]

My gawd, we're actually having a conversation about Barkley versus Pollard.

If healthy, 32 teams choose Barkley and laugh.

Only on a Cowboys forum. This is why they make fun of us.

I think youre caught up in names and not what’s actually being done on the football field.


Also, Saquon has been on the decline ever since he stepped foot into the NFL. He’s never lived up to his hype.

Pollard has done nothing but gotten better and better and better while being held back by the Cowboys because of their contractual mistake with Zeke.

 

[CATCH17]

Saquon vs an “in prime” Zeke would have made a lot more sense to debate.

Tonys a nice piece to the puzzle but has to have a committee type RB corp and with the addition of Vaughn and Dowdle, it may work out well

Barkley needs a committee…

He’s not as physical of a runner as you think and he gets hurt constantly.

 

[shabazz]

Barkley needs a committee…

He’s not as physical of a runner as you think and he gets hurt constantly.

with the exception of one season I believe he has only missed 6 or 7 games total in the other 4 seasons but just like all running backs, his best years should historically be behind him .

The Giants FO knows this too and wisely refused to sign him for big bucks long term…….should be at least one more season of over 4 yards per carry and than the graph will start to tilt south.

 

[erod]

And he still hasn't proven his easy point lol. This is funny

You lost this a LONG time ago. Keep defending our part-time rotational back.

 

[McKDaddy]

Can we stop overrating the guy he was overrated when he came into the league he still overrated you say the injuries are holding him back the injuries are part of whether you can be considered generational or not he's not had any special seasons show me where's all this rushing crowns where's all this top Billings like where his his signature games he is not generational he's just a very very good back.. The stuff that Elliot did back-to-back years in college and then the third year in a row what he did in his rookie year that's what you call a generational back he could have won three rushing crowns had he not got suspended right out of college that had been like five years most running backs could never have done with that much carries.. There's a reason emmitt Smiths #1 because of his longevity he stayed healthy I'm sorry but yes saquon Barkley is a very good running back he is not generational not even in the lowest sense.. There are so many backs like him that you can't call him generational he's done not one thing special show me what special things he's done in the NFL? I mean if you think he's special then dalvin cook is generational as well and he's not these are just very good running backs but if you do what Ezekiel Elliott did back-to-back 1800 yard games at Ohio State in a big conference and putting up 200 yard games in the college playoffs when he had no quarterback he literally was their offense then comes in and does what he does it's a rookie here and then basically the first four years in the league he was the best running back in the league..

And yet our own fanbase says that Elliott was overrated no Elliott was generational but he was overused in college and in the pros and had a shorter career...
.
And by the way Christian McCaffrey 's always injured too very good running back as well very much like saquan Barkley however at least he's had one special year didn't he have a year over 1000 rushing and 1000 receiving in the same year and was considered for the MVP that's what you call a special season and I don't think Christian McCaffrey 's generational..

He did put up 2000 yards from scrimmage & 15 TD's in his rookie season, didn't he?

You don't have to believe he's generational. Quite a few great talents careers have been hampered by injuries.