CFZ Tony Pollard vs Saquon Barkley

[SteveTheCowboy]

Tony Pollard has 68 carries for 420 yards and has scored 8 touchdowns in 6 games as a starter in his career.

I understand your point though. It's a very limited sample size and he needs to show what he can do over the course of a season.

Pretty much he's excelled whenever he got the opportunity. We just need to see him with more opportunity. Indeed he will be proving himself this year, or not.

I fully agree with all of what you said here. This is a big long haul. I...FEEL...like he can perform well in the primary back role. I will also enjoy seeing the other youngster find their place. On paper...theoretically...RB looks very exciting! We need solid O-line, good play calling...and some luck in the health department (for a change).

Gonna sit back and enjoy the ride!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

no you are not, go away, you still butthurt EZ is a Pat so you response with name calling must be called out. Its a fact... is it a fact because you can only use all relative stats you have up to this point, numbers IE tony pollard say he is very close to SB in all ways.. he literally nearly split the Carries & still put up Christian McCaffrey type numbers. you don't think by then defenses were keying on TP or u think oh hes 2 let's ignored him..lol i'm sorry that i'm looking at this unbiased & can put McCaffrey, kamara, Barkley and tony pollard in the same sentence as very very close in type of back and production.

To be clear...I never name-called.

I am pulling for Tony...he's been a very good RB for us. Like I just said...I feel he can perform well with good o-line and game management.

It's just something he's never done..."up to now". That's it, a fact. Very simple no need to argue about it.

What I really want to see are some real holes and push from this O-line. I wanna see Tony regularly bust it up the middle instead of wasting yards "showcasing his speed to the outside".

 

[SuperBowlz]

you mean like the other hundreds of players that were simply overlooked?? you think that that's not unheard of ....the ones that went in the first round. FACT. Brady, purdy, romo, warner just to name few been few RBs also

Terrell Davis was selected in the sixth round, 196th player overall, of the 1995 NFL Draft by the Denver Broncos. The little-known back made a big splash when earned a starting role at tailback as a rookie.​

if i had time this morning i bet i can find 50 more examples on where in the draft on how his NFL career is going to go high or low....but the lance vs warner is very interesting huh? you do realize GM's make mistakes scouts miss players..

Next dumb narrative to bust??

There always have been and will always be late round gems. But when you are 5'5 and can't block you're going to slide.

 

[zrinkill]

Jeebus ....... Now he is Barkley

 

[SuperBowlz]

651 carries

During his three-year career at Kansas State, Vaughn was a very productive runner and pass catcher. He totaled 651 carries for 3,604 yards and 34 rushing touchdowns.

all those carrie, NOT Injury Prone.. show me his injury history.. and you trying to convince me all those carries against Texas and Oklahoma even Alabama along with over 2500yards in receiving he did it against no big time defensive players with size?? lmao i believe a lot of those big-time players made it to the NFL as well...

So why is it you think he went so late in the draft putting up fantastic numbers against elite teams? Why? I have my theory but obviously you think I'm nuts that he went late cause he's a tiny many playing against genetic beasts.
I mean we don't even know if this guy is even going to be good yet.

 

[SuperBowlz]

Jeebus ....... Now he is Barkley

And don't you dare question it!

 

[CWR]

I fully agree with all of what you said here. This is a big long haul. I...FEEL...like he can perform well in the primary back role. I will also enjoy seeing the other youngster find their place. On paper...theoretically...RB looks very exciting! We need solid O-line, good play calling...and some luck in the health department (for a change).

Gonna sit back and enjoy the ride!

Yes sir, and after hearing Luepke compared to Kuhn I'm even more excited.

 

[blueblood70]

There always have been and will always be late round gems. But when you are 5'5 and can't block you're going to slide.

and yet how do you know how are you 100%? i saw him in college i see more proof that he's gonna succeed and do very well versus what you're predicting.. by the way he's closer to 5'6 185

that's not far off from even what barry sanders was.... like close to 5.8 200

there were quite a few players that a....r 5/8 that did pretty well in the NFL... how do we know he's not going to be the first one? you know like spud webb and the NBA? he could be literally one of the smallest playefto make the hall of fame. nobody knows

so what i'm saying is the proof from his college preseason practice and all that im more close to the truth than you are...

 

[SuperBowlz]

and yet how do you know how are you 100%? i saw him in college i see more proof that he's gonna succeed and do very well versus what you're predicting.. by the way he's closer to 5'6 185

that's not far off from even what barry sanders was.... like close to 5.8 200

there were quite a few players that a....r 5/8 that did pretty well in the NFL... how do we know he's not going to be the first one? you know like spud webb and the NBA? he could be literally one of the smallest playefto make the hall of fame. nobody knows

so what i'm saying is the proof from his college preseason practice and all that im more close to the truth than you are...

Yes, you are more close to the truth them me, Bill Bellicheck and all the other GMs in the NFL. Yes, he could be fantastic but we've yet to ever see a 5'5 late round pick be good.

 

[Ekspozed]

Pollard will still play much the same role as last year. He really a lead back in college, and he has hasn't been here.

If you ask him to do that, he'll be beaten to a pulp by a November.

15 carries a game and a few receptions. That's what he is.

Kind of like saquan

 

[kskboys]

Yes, you are more close to the truth them me, Bill Bellicheck and all the other GMs in the NFL. Yes, he could be fantastic but we've yet to ever see a 5'5 late round pick be good.

Trindon Holiday, 6th round.(5-5)
Jakeem Grant, 6th round(5-6)
Deonte Hardy, UFA(5-6)
That was easy.

The league is littered w/ guys who are 5-7 to 5-8, many weighing the same or less. JJ Taylor for the Pats is 5-6.

 

[Bullflop]

I'm hoping for Pollard to put forth as fine a performance as he's offered yet. Doing so with a delightful game by Deuce would also be impressive. We have the horses to beat the Giants, just as we have in the past. I'm hoping Dak displays one of his most capable offensive games yet. Our defense should hopefully display the solid capabilities that we've been getting used to in recent years. I'd like nothing more than to win handily.

 

[blueblood70]

Yes, you are more close to the truth them me, Bill Bellicheck and all the other GMs in the NFL. Yes, he could be fantastic but we've yet to ever see a 5'5 late round pick be good.

you're making this way too easy now and we've come full circle many greats were late rounders or were undrafted and became great.. so, yes my proof of his college career....am closer to my evaluation than yours.. so yes GM's and fans make mistakes all the time! yep i know what i need to do with you....and we've already had this discussion...

bad players are picked in high rounds in our busts by these perfect GM's and coaches that you speak of....

 

[CCBoy]

Tony's a good RB, but until you are the "featured" #1 RB and get full on game planned...its just potential. Regardless of "committee".

I think he CAN do it...if we have improved the o-line enough to not need a "FB" to help all the time. But facts is facts.

He's the current bell cow and was last season to give him credability. New York may have a slightly better runner group, as far as #2.

 

[CCBoy]

You are welcome to your opinion and there's no need to be upset about my opinion. There's a reason he went late after putting up those prolific numbers. He's just too small to get a lot of carries. I mean he's still a long shot to even get a few carries because outside of a great run in preseason he pretty much got shut down.

5'5" is the limiter of a man? No, it's still on the man. Big, fast, pot belly or bean pole...they are developed by what is in THAT man. There are ways around all obstacles.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He's the current bell cow and was last season to give him credability. New York may have a slightly better runner group, as far as #2.

No...he was NOT last season.

Was he the better performing RB? Yes...131 more yards on 38 less carries.

Tony also did have more receptions...but of course....however...

"Bell cow" means you get the ball. A LOT!

" It refers to the "lead" running back, basically an every-down player who is the clear starter who can carry a full load "

Week after week.

It remains to be seen if he can fulfill that role this year. Depends on the plan and his durability.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

5'5" is the limiter of a man? No, it's still on the man. Big, fast, pot belly or bean pole...they are developed by what is in THAT man. There are ways around all obstacles.

Ever see a fat guy in the Tour de France?

 

[starfan1]

No...he was NOT last season.

Was he the better performing RB? Yes...131 more yards on 38 less carries.

Tony also did have more receptions...but of course....however...

"Bell cow" means you get the ball. A LOT!

" It refers to the "lead" running back, basically an every-down player who is the clear starter who can carry a full load "

Week after week.

It remains to be seen if he can fulfill that role this year. Depends on the plan and his durability.

This^ The fact is he dont have to be the bell cow all he has to do is perform similar to last year and pick up a few more touches but hes got a #2 and Duece is probably gonna get some touches as well. I guess you can probably bet he wont be plaing center. Screw KM

 

[blueblood70]

No...he was NOT last season.

Was he the better performing RB? Yes...131 more yards on 38 less carries.

Tony also did have more receptions...but of course....however...

"Bell cow" means you get the ball. A LOT!

" It refers to the "lead" running back, basically an every-down player who is the clear starter who can carry a full load "

Week after week.

It remains to be seen if he can fulfill that role this year. Depends on the plan and his durability.

but that's not their plan for pollard this year he will get the splits he was getting last year while they deploy the running back by.... he will still be the number one back. you don't have to be a bell cow 3 down back to be considered the number one back..

they've been doing it all around the league with all them guys that are very similar to TP

it's not like saquon barkley has fared well taking the punishment.. back to back seasons where he totaled maybe 600 total yards?? part of being a bell cow back is being able to handle the punishment like Emmitt smith and henry has.

this is why i don't consider saquan barkley generational... he's just one of the better backs right now of his era he's really good. sometimes hes even great but not special or generational.

 

[Bullflop]

I hope Pollard is ready to block for Dak on Sunday. If not, maybe Luepke can step in for it. No doubt Tony's the #1 RB, though. It should be exciting.