Tony Romo buys into new conditioning philosophy

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Nav22;2812961 said:
I didn't see ONE opinion about Romo being out of shape towards the end of the year until this article was posted. Not in the media, certainly not on this board... nowhere.

I guess you missed my "Is Tony Romo abusing narcotics?" thread at the end of last season where his shape was questioned. (it wasnt around long though, the mods didnt appreciate it too much)

EDIT: found it lol, I guess they didnt delete it...and you didnt miss it Nav, you actually posted in it :)
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142942&highlight=Tony+Romo+Narcotics
 

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DFWJC;2812856 said:
I've never heard that before. Maybe when he was very old. In fact, he seemed more athletic and athletically built than most other QBs. I bet he and Aikman were similar in size in their primes....about 6'3 or 6'4 and around 215-220.

Sure you don't mean Plunkett or Jurgenson...or Jared Lorenzen? LOL

NOPE! Elway...you don't remember that gut and that pidgeon toe walk. The guy looked like a reliever in bb! But he did have the same thing Romo has...IT. He hated to lose in anything.....pool, darts, whatever!
 

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I guess you missed my "Is Tony Romo abusing narcotics?" thread at the end of last season where his shape was questioned. (it wasnt around long though, the mods didnt appreciate it too much)

EDIT: found it lol, I guess they didnt delete it...and you didnt miss it Nav, you actually posted in it
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showth...mo+Narcot ics
I stand corrected. Forgot about that thread.
 

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peplaw06;2813027 said:
And you can see the kind of response you got at that time.

I am often perceptive...must be the narcotics
 

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I don't care how good of shape I am in at the beginning of the season, if I take the kind of physical abuse Tony has taken during Sept thru Turkey Day, my body is just not going to respond in the last of the season. Get our OL line in shape and give Tony a pocket, then we won't have to worry about what kind of shape he is in during December and the playoffs.

How can your body have good workouts on Monday thru Thurs, when it is barely able to get out bed, because of the abuse taken on Sunday?
 

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ZB9;2812972 said:
I guess you missed my "Is Tony Romo abusing narcotics?" thread at the end of last season where his shape was questioned. (it wasnt around long though, the mods didnt appreciate it too much)

EDIT: found it lol, I guess they didnt delete it...and you didnt miss it Nav, you actually posted in it :)
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142942&highlight=Tony+Romo+Narcotics

Wow. I stand corrected for thinking *this* thread was nonsense. I didn't know what I was talking about.
 

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I don't understand why this can't be an "issue". When I work out, I'm more mentally sharp, and I'm no pro athlete, that's for sure. If I drop 5 pounds it makes a significant difference in how I play whatever crap level/type of sports I play. At a professional level I would think it makes a huge difference when we are talking about inches and mili-seconds.

I didn't really read anybody disputing that Romo doesn't work hard. I also don't give a crap about him playing golf or having Jessica as a gf or going to a basketball game. I do know that if you hit the weights regularly and do a lot of cardio, you probably recover from being beat the hell outta every Sunday just a bit quicker and or, maybe avoid an injury or escape that 1 extra heavy tackle.

Aikman appeared to have a much bigger natural frame than Romo does. Romo doesn't look very strong in the legs, and we don't hear about him doing the old Vinny Squats the day after each game like Parcells used to brag about and force his players to do.

I also don't hear many people saying Romo is in "bad" shape. I totally think it is a legitimate comment to say that if he got in better shape it might improve his game in the other categories (mental, evasion, stamina through season, etc).

Roy Williams is dropping 10 pounds or so. Nobody was really complaining about his weight either, but I think that is a good idea too.

Romo is a naturally savy pocket presence guy, nobody says he has Michael Vick speed and agility. Maybe if he transfered 4 or 5 pounds of fat into 4-5 pounds of muscle it would make a difference for him. He doesn't have to look like a body builder for it to make a difference.

You see it and hear about it with RB's a bunch too. Gain 10 pounds too much and wow can it affect their ability. Julius Jones got a bit top heavy, but I always thought he had weak leg strength. Emmitt never looked super strong, but he could leg press 1000 pounds and it showed with how he broke tackles and was hard to bring down cleanly.

I throw like a sissy grandmother, but I've been hearing since the age of 5 that a bunch of throwing power comes from legs, hips, and torso.

To me, just looking at Romo, I did think at times that more time working pure muscle and cardio work would pay dividends.

Ask McFlabb if conditioning played a role in his SuperBowl performance. That dude is way too heavy also. He was so tired in the SuperBowl that he couldn't think straight, get to the line in a hurry, and had to puke. How ready to heave his next pass do you think he was. Just because a guy is paid 6 Million dollars doesn't mean he's "perfect" or can't work on even the most simplistic thing.

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LarryCanadian;2813243 said:
I don't understand why this can't be an "issue". When I work out, I'm more mentally sharp, and I'm no pro athlete, that's for sure. If I drop 5 pounds it makes a significant difference in how I play whatever crap level/type of sports I play. At a professional level I would think it makes a huge difference when we are talking about inches and mili-seconds.

I didn't really read anybody disputing that Romo doesn't work hard. I also don't give a crap about him playing golf or having Jessica as a gf or going to a basketball game. I do know that if you hit the weights regularly and do a lot of cardio, you probably recover from being beat the hell outta every Sunday just a bit quicker and or, maybe avoid an injury or escape that 1 extra heavy tackle.

Aikman appeared to have a much bigger natural frame than Romo does. Romo doesn't look very strong in the legs, and we don't hear about him doing the old Vinny Squats the day after each game like Parcells used to brag about and force his players to do.

I also don't hear many people saying Romo is in "bad" shape. I totally think it is a legitimate comment to say that if he got in better shape it might improve his game in the other categories (mental, evasion, stamina through season, etc).

Roy Williams is dropping 10 pounds or so. Nobody was really complaining about his weight either, but I think that is a good idea too.

Romo is a naturally savy pocket presence guy, nobody says he has Michael Vick speed and agility. Maybe if he transfered 4 or 5 pounds of fat into 4-5 pounds of muscle it would make a difference for him. He doesn't have to look like a body builder for it to make a difference.

You see it and hear about it with RB's a bunch too. Gain 10 pounds too much and wow can it affect their ability. Julius Jones got a bit top heavy, but I always thought he had weak leg strength. Emmitt never looked super strong, but he could leg press 1000 pounds and it showed with how he broke tackles and was hard to bring down cleanly.

I throw like a sissy grandmother, but I've been hearing since the age of 5 that a bunch of throwing power comes from legs, hips, and torso.

To me, just looking at Romo, I did think at times that more time working pure muscle and cardio work would pay dividends.

Ask McFlabb if conditioning played a role in his SuperBowl performance. That dude is way too heavy also. He was so tired in the SuperBowl that he couldn't think straight, get to the line in a hurry, and had to puke. How ready to heave his next pass do you think he was. Just because a guy is paid 6 Million dollars doesn't mean he's "perfect" or can't work on even the most simplistic thing.

LarryCanadian

Larry, you've been perfectly reasonable in this thread. And your point: that being in better shape can always be a good thing, is a fair one..

It's hard to evaluate any impact without really knowing what Romo's conditioning is like to start with, and without knowing how much time he has to spend on that vs. say, film study when he's in season. I certainly didn't see any signs of Tony's conditioning affecting his game at the end of last year. I did see the other defenses affecting it. And his injuries.

What I hate to see is rank unsupported criticism from the likes of JFE become a popular myth in need of debunking on this site for the next several years. And this is a perfect example of the sort of thing that gets perpetuated for no good reason at all.
 

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Wow, Garrett says that Romo needs to be in better shape and the Romo supporters get bent out of shape. This is not a fan or a poster on this board, it's his offensive coordinator. The truth hurts, this should dispel some of those "he's the hardest working player in practice" rumors and should put some light on the rumors of him goofing off and throwing careless ints in practice last year.

The problem is most people get so entrenched in their stance that they can't see the other side. I not a fan of what I saw from Romo last year and my post have reflected that but when he said that "highlight reel plays don't win championships" I gave him props for his attitude.

The Romo supporter have got to accept some of the criticism as being credible or they stand the chance of losing thei credibility.
 

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Gryphon;2812776 said:
Romo said Monday that one of his conditioning goals is "to be the same in September as you are in December ... as an individual and as a team."


I would rather him be the same in December as he is in September. If not, the fans are in for a long season.
 

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birdwells1;2813257 said:
Wow, Garrett says that Romo needs to be in better shape and the Romo supporters get bent out of shape. This is not a fan or a poster on this board, it's his offensive coordinator. The truth hurts, this should dispel some of those "he's the hardest working player in practice" rumors and should put some light on the rumors of him goofing off and throwing careless ints in practice last year.

The problem is most people get so entrenched in their stance that they can't see the other side. I not a fan of what I saw from Romo last year and my post have reflected that but when he said that "highlight reel plays don't win championships" I gave him props for his attitude.

The Romo supporter have got to accept some of the criticism as being credible or they stand the chance of losing thei credibility.



Get in better shape doesn't mean he was out of shape.

They just want him to take it to another level.

Not your a fat *** who can't do squat. Hes not the fridge and hes still as mobile in the pocket as any QB out there.

His strength and Cardio aren't the reason why we are losing late in the season. Sorry.
 

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Get in better shape doesn't mean he was out of shape.

They just want him to take it to another level.

Not your a fat *** who can't do squat. Hes not the fridge and hes still as mobile in the pocket as any QB out there.

His strength and Cardio aren't the reason why we are losing late in the season. Sorry.

I agree. I think the pounding he was taking started to take a toll more than anything else.
 

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This thread is all over the place. IMO, the article is accurate. He was in great SHAPE to golf, or play softball or even basketball. But he wore down big time as the season went on. Of course it was partly the porous Olin: no doubt about it, but he could've done more to prevent injuries in terms of being in better shape, and that's what Red talked to him about:ESPECIALLY in the weight room. He has all but admitted it. It's now or never for him and this team: I don't care what the critics say, we have the talent to win it all. Do we have the desire? Stay tuned................
 

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Aven8;2812995 said:
NOPE! Elway...you don't remember that gut and that pidgeon toe walk. The guy looked like a reliever in bb! But he did have the same thing Romo has...IT. He hated to lose in anything.....pool, darts, whatever!

lol
I do agree that for sure he had that swagger. So you're dead on there.

But concerning Elway being out of shape like some fat relief pitcher...no way. I even looked up many photos over the years. No way...not even close. Maybe you were looking at a flak jacket? He was one of the first to wear one reguarly. I also looked up his playing weight for most of his career---he was 6'3 and he weighed only 215.
 

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birdwells1;2813257 said:
Wow, Garrett says that Romo needs to be in better shape and the Romo supporters get bent out of shape. This is not a fan or a poster on this board, it's his offensive coordinator. The truth hurts, this should dispel some of those "he's the hardest working player in practice" rumors and should put some light on the rumors of him goofing off and throwing careless ints in practice last year.

The problem is most people get so entrenched in their stance that they can't see the other side. I not a fan of what I saw from Romo last year and my post have reflected that but when he said that "highlight reel plays don't win championships" I gave him props for his attitude.

The Romo supporter have got to accept some of the criticism as being credible or they stand the chance of losing thei credibility.

Can I interrupt this credibility-victory-lap to request a single shred of evidence that what you're saying Garrett told him--and what it implies--actually occurred?

Because I listed to the source interview Tony gave on the topic--you know, the one JFE intentionally took out of context--and nothing you're concluding in your post above is supported by what was actually said.
 

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June 17, 2009

Tony Romo says Jason Garrett didn't send slim down message
2:55 PM Wed, Jun 17, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Speaking after Wednesday's morning workout Tony Romo refuted a report from earlier this week that offensive coordinator Jason Garrett had a meeting to discuss the quarterback's conditioning.

"There was no such meeting," Romo said. "We live in a world where it's sensationalized. When you see something or hear something, you write it. That's completely false. If there's anything those guys tell me, it's to throttle back sometimes just because I do a lot of running playing soccer and basketball and stuff to stay in shape, plus the stuff we do. So when you hear stuff like that, people don't know."

On Monday Romo talked about the importance of maintaining his conditioning during the course of the season and that he will do more clean and squat work in the weight room to be stronger later in the season.

"I mean, [clean and squat lifting] is not an explosive move to be a quarterback against an opponent," Romo said. "But I feel it's been very beneficial to me over the years to do that. And as you do that going forward, it only helps you continue to take hits during the year. I think that was the whole mindset. The goal was to be able to have strong legs at the end of the year to withstand some of the shots you take as the season progresses."

Owner and general manager Jerry Jones said earlier Romo has weighed 222 the last three years. On the roster handed out during mini-camp he is listed at 224 pounds.
 
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