Tony Romo worship?

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LD Fan;1215152 said:
The difference is that Grossman has reverted to what he was at Florida. Feast or famine.

Yeah, but that's not the issue. Grossman was on every morning TV show, Cold Pizza, tons of interviews on ESPN, PTI, talked about on ATH daily, etc..

He was talked about being an MVP earlier this season, and you couldn't watch a Sportscenter without seeing his face.

As I said, his hype and his coverage is comparable to what Romo is getting now.
 

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Colston is a good example actually. Before he was injured was leading the league in reception yards in his rookie year. came out of nowhere just like romo, but talked about with not quite the same reverence.
 

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SaintReginald;1215163 said:
Colston is a good example actually. Before he was injured was leading the league in reception yards in his rookie year. came out of nowhere just like romo, but talked about with not quite the same reverence.
QB > WR in the eyes of media storylines.

Unless that WR is a media powder keg like TO. Then you get that circus too.
 

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SaintReginald;1215163 said:
Colston is a good example actually. Before he was injured was leading the league in reception yards in his rookie year. came out of nowhere just like romo, but talked about with not quite the same reverence.

There's a big difference in media coverage between a QB who comes out of nowhere to lead a 3-3, 3rd place in their division team to an 8-4 record and leading the division by 2 games.

Colston is a stud, by the way. He gonna be ready for Sunday?
 

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SaintReginald;1215131 said:
I have a question and please dont say im trolling because it is a genuine curiosity. No matter what his potential is, or how good hes playing don't you think the media may have jumped the gun on Tony Romo? Thats not to say that he will not become the quarterback they are saying he already is but whatever happened to cautious optimism?
I think many of you would agree that the list of people who have been good for 6 games, or hell even one season is not a particularly short list and I think its odd that someone is being talked about like a hall of famer for his performance in 6 games. I mean hell, look at Aaron Brooks stats his first two years.

Just to let you know i mainly post this here because id like to see what cowboys fans think about this. I understand fanboyism, and its prevalent on our forums as well so you wont annoy me, just dont flame me.
My theory is that the media is overhyped to get behind certain teams. The cowboys were the most beloved team by the media in their superbowl years and now that it looks like its even possible they could have another aikman they are getting ahead of themselves.

Opinions?;)

Remember Bobby Hebert? He was the last good QB the Saints had till Brees came to town. Aaron Brooks...he's a Quincy starter kit. Never did anything but get your hopes up just to see him stick a dagger in your heart with the stupidest play you could think of.

That's the way it is here...we haven't see a QB like Romo since Aikman. Not saying he will be as good or even close, but it's enough to get excited about.

Good luck on Sunday...I think we will both need a little bit of it to win. I lived in NO for over 7 years and always liked to see the Saints doing well...just not this Sunday.
 

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SaintReginald;1215163 said:
Colston is a good example actually. Before he was injured was leading the league in reception yards in his rookie year. came out of nowhere just like romo, but talked about with not quite the same reverence.

Reggie was hyped without doing anything. Brees has performed at a comparable level and was getting all the love early in the year. QBs are the sexiest position to pump up - and Romo's their newest toy.

It's time to get over it. Your team has gotten plenty of hype and plenty of respect that their fans seems to inexplicably crave so desperately.
 

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Jay;1215165 said:
There's a big difference in media coverage between a QB who comes out of nowhere to lead a 3-3, 3rd place in their division team to an 8-4 record and leading the division by 2 games.

Colston is a stud, by the way. He gonna be ready for Sunday?
not sure yet. i would hope so. weve been expecting him back the past 2 games but its definately not a guarantee. Im in the military and will be staying up to 4 am to watch this game so it would be nice if we were at full strength :)
 

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Thanks for serving our country, Reginald. Much appreciated, much respect.
 

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superpunk;1215169 said:
Reggie was hyped without doing anything. Brees has performed at a comparable level and was getting all the love early in the year. QBs are the sexiest position to pump up - and Romo's their newest toy.

It's time to get over it. Your team has gotten plenty of hype and plenty of respect that their fans seems to inexplicably crave so desperately.

hey i meant no disrespect. Though i think you raise an interesting debate about Reggie Bush. I suppose thats for another thread, but id be crucified for starting such a debate by my own nola people hehe
 

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SaintReginald;1215131 said:
I have a question and please dont say im trolling because it is a genuine curiosity. No matter what his potential is, or how good hes playing don't you think the media may have jumped the gun on Tony Romo? Thats not to say that he will not become the quarterback they are saying he already is but whatever happened to cautious optimism?
I think many of you would agree that the list of people who have been good for 6 games, or hell even one season is not a particularly short list and I think its odd that someone is being talked about like a hall of famer for his performance in 6 games. I mean hell, look at Aaron Brooks stats his first two years.

Just to let you know i mainly post this here because id like to see what cowboys fans think about this. I understand fanboyism, and its prevalent on our forums as well so you wont annoy me, just dont flame me.
My theory is that the media is overhyped to get behind certain teams. The cowboys were the most beloved team by the media in their superbowl years and now that it looks like its even possible they could have another aikman they are getting ahead of themselves.

Opinions?;)

I think the attention Romo is currently getting is justified based on his performance. You are right it is still early in his career and he has to be able to consistently perform year in and year out to be put in the class of the best QB's in the game.
 

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SaintReginald;1215143 said:
im sure he is but it still stands that the media doesnt get behind other rising stars the way they seem to be doing with the cowboys.

Come on let's be fair here.

Before the draft and after the draft the media has been on the Reggie Bush Bandwagon.

Just like they are now on the Tony Romo Bandwagon.

The NFL is starving for new young stars to keep the league going.

It is the NFL and they will hype some players up.

You would think that CB D.Hall (falcons) was the next coming of Deion and one if the only shutdown cornerbacks in the NFL if you listen to the media. He is nowhere near that level.

One other thing to consider, and this is not to bash the saints in any way but just stating how things are.

With the Dallas Cowboys it is always going to be some kind of media frenzy. That does not mean just good media frenzy, it also means bad media frenzy quite a bit.

Bill, Jerry or TO could fart in the bathroom and ed werder would be on ESPN Sportscenter talking about how something stinks at valley ranch and the team is fighting. For the last few years we have been told how Jerry and Bill are fighting and Bill will leave because of it. All this offseason we have been told about TO and Bill this, TO and Jerry that.

Sometimes we have to take the good with the bad.

When the Saints put up a resume throughout the NFL history like the Cowboys have, when the Saints have an owner (or owners as in the past) that make the Cowboys the public relations empire, when the Saints have multiple Superbowls, when the Saints have an Owner as visible as Jerry Jones (no not some little guy dancing around with an umbrella) and if you hire a coach with the history of Parcells.

SURE it is going to get more attention.

The saints, prior to this year, once again no offense meant, has nowhere near the winning history of the Dallas Cowboys, they are pretty much the exact opposite.

Last year and some of this year, the Saints were a feel good team due to the terrible destruction that Hurricane Katrina brought. Most teams fans were rooting for the Saints to win.

Now they are starting to get some attention for Drew Brees, Reggie Bush and yes even your young rookie WR who has been mentioned as Offensive ROY honors.

However, with all of that said, until the Saints put up a History that comes even close to the Cowboys, until they have a Public Relations history that comes close to the cowboys...they will just not garner the same attention.
 

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superpunk;1215169 said:
It's time to get over it. Your team has gotten plenty of hype and plenty of respect that their fans seems to inexplicably crave so desperately.

You noticed that too. I've actually blamed the Oprah style orgy about NO more on the media. They're having a great year and the team is a lot better but let's get over the sympathy element.
 

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LD Fan;1215177 said:
You noticed that too. I've actually blamed the Oprah style orgy about NO more on the media. They're having a great year and the team is a lot better but let's get over the sympathy element.
i can agree with that sentiment as well actually. Sympathy and football dont mix.
On the reggie bush thing, i think that bush is feared so much by coaches from week to week that they open up our number 1 ranked passing attack
 

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SaintReginald;1215131 said:
I think many of you would agree that the list of people who have been good for 6 games, or hell even one season is not a particularly short list and I think its odd that someone is being talked about like a hall of famer for his performance in 6 games. I mean hell, look at Aaron Brooks stats his first two years.
Romo's rating is 102.4 in his first 6 career starts. Let's see this long list you're referring to of QB's who have started their careers like that.

You mention Aaron Brooks. He had an 85.7 rating over the first 6 games of his career. You said to look at Brooks' first two years, so I did. He never cracked 100 in any six-game stretch.
 

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percyhoward;1215195 said:
Romo's rating is 102.4 in his first 6 career starts. Let's see this long list you're referring to of QB's who have started their careers like that.

You mention Aaron Brooks. He had an 85.7 rating over the first 6 games of his career. You said to look at Brooks' first two years, so I did. He never cracked 100 in any six-game stretch.

i think you missed my point. I'm not sayin romo is an aaron brooks! god help the nfl if so because it needs some new stars. I'm just saying I think a little cautious optimism is in order as with all players just out of the gate, and on the radar. As with all all players i'll be waiting to see what happens when teams are actually preparing for this guy every week. I wish him luck though (except on sunday :) )
 

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First off...thanks for what you do in the military. I'm glad you can use the Saints as an outlet.

To echo what others have said, especially Brainpaint, the Cowboys are on their own level regarding their visibility as a franchise.

This is one of the reasons the Cowboys are either loved or hated. The team hasn't been this competitive since the mid to late 90's, but they are still hated more than any team in America, arguably more that the Yankees.

The reasoning for this is, and I'm sure you know as well, that the Cowboys have been one of the most successful franchises in sports. They have had high-profile owners since their inception back in 1960. Both Tex Schramm before and now Jerry Jones made it their primary effort to put the Cowboys front and center to both the fans as well as the media.

Couple what you just read with the acquisition of the most flamboyant, controversial, and arguably best WR in the game and now a young hotshot quarterback that is kicking *** along with being a media darling...the media frenzy runs rampant.
 

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SaintReginald;1215201 said:
i think you missed my point. I'm not sayin romo is an aaron brooks! god help the nfl if so because it needs some new stars. I'm just saying I think a little cautious optimism is in order as with all players just out of the gate, and on the radar. As with all all players i'll be waiting to see what happens when teams are actually preparing for this guy every week. I wish him luck though (except on sunday :) )

I have a question. Do you think Marques Colston is a pro-bowl WR, or do we watch him with cautious optimism? Just asking.
 

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I agree that other NFL coaches prepared were concerned about Reggie Bush's potential and potential doesn't mean much for long unless he puts up the numbers to back it up. He did last week and congrats to him and your team. Sean Peyton (no surprise to Cowboy fans) has done an amazing job in turning NO around. Given me another 1-3 years to do same to his defense and you guys will have a perpetual elite time.

Must admit myself that I've been rooting for the Saints this year so long as it doesn't hurt my Cowboys. Part of supporting the Saints was cause of my respect for Peyton our former offensive coach. BTW: He was big part of the development of Romo and we Cowboy fans thank him but not enough of course to trade him to NO as Peyton requested we do. Sorry about that.

I know other teams resent the Cowboys cause of the whole America's team stuff. The reality is we've been to more SB then any other team and are tied (ugh) with Steelers & 49ers for most SB wins. We've also got the winnest record since Cowboys started around 1960. Anyway, other teams and the fans either love us or hate us which generate hugh interest in the Cowboys and make us a huge draw for the TV networks. Cowboy fans turned up in huge numbers in order stadiums around the NFL, but other teams turned blind eye to that. However San Diego Chargers complained last year in seasoner opener cause there so many Cowboy fans there; same routinely goes for Arizona and many other places. Bet if this game was held in NO, there'd be a huge Cowboy presence/supporters. Not trying to beat you about this but it part of way Romo generates so much interest. Have you seen the TV ratings this year when Cowboys play. Giants fans say it's because America wants see them play; other teams say it's because they themselves have a huge following but common denominator is the Cowboys. Don't ask me to explain cause I don't understand it either. BTW: I've never lived in Texas in my life and my brother is a Commanders fan. I lived in northern VA right outside Washington for 25 years but have been a Cowboy fan probably before you were born.

I digress. Please forgive our excitement over Romo's play. We've been w/o a good QB since Aikman's retirement and having great QBs is how to win SBs so with 2 HOF QBs we knew/yearned for another great franchise QB to return to winning ways. As NO fans know, losing just plain sucks and it's been a very long hard road for you all and you've got our sympathizes. We all very hopeful re Romo and we went from almost stinking with Bledsoe to resurgence and viable playoff threat with Romo so no wonder why we giddy. We are very aware that things could go wrong and certainly until season over will we know if he has legs so to speak. But he's sure exciting to watch and wonder if he was your QB instead of Brees if you wouldn't fee same way about him too.

Finally, thanks for your service to this country. My nephew is in the military and is over there now; it's his 2nd tour & he already knows he'll be going back for a 3rd. Respectfully your, a diehard Cowboy fan

Please don't take our love of the Cowboys personally cause most of us in here have great deal of respect of the job Saints coaching staff/players are doing. I wanted Cowboys to draft Colston cause I heard about him. But we used our 2 7th round picks on OL. I live in Tampa area and saw the Tampa-NO game; Saints were outstanding including Brees. Colston & even Fujita & Shanle looked pretty good.

Anyway, good luck but not enough to beat us.
 

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SaintReginald;1215201 said:
i think you missed my point. I'm not sayin romo is an aaron brooks! god help the nfl if so because it needs some new stars. I'm just saying I think a little cautious optimism is in order as with all players just out of the gate, and on the radar. As with all all players i'll be waiting to see what happens when teams are actually preparing for this guy every week. I wish him luck though (except on sunday :) )
Just don't fall down while you're backtracking.;)
 

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Jay;1215146 said:
What about Grossman earlier this year? He was what Romo is now.

I dont think you can compare Rex and Romo.... Rex looks lost out there at times..... if and when Romo looks lost... he finds his way back quickly...

Rex is all deep, jump ball passes.... doesnt view the field well.... I just cant compare the two...

Tony is years ahead of Grossman in 6 games where Grossman looks like he is in his 20th game or so
 
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