Tony Romo worship?

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PJCOWBOYS;1215435 said:
Romo isn't getting half the hype Bush has gotten. Get real. Everyone in the media wants to say he is the next Gale Sayers or Barry Sanders. As bad as our own Julius Jones has been producing of late, nothing compared to the putrid rushing stats for Bush. 368 rushing yards for a whopping 3.1 ypc. If Sanders or Sayers did that their rookie years, they probably would have been benched by now this far into the season. Yet it's the great Bush doing this. So he gets a pass.

Or better yet imagine if you will if Bush was leading the league in rushing and averaging about 6.0 yards per carry. Imagine that hype. That is pretty much what Romo is doing but in the realm of QBdom.
 

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Like most Cowboy fans I'm excited about the prospect of Romo and his career with the Cowboys. I do understand the posters question though of 6 games does not make a career nor does 1 season. When Romo shows the ability to play top level football year in and year out is when he will be looked at as a great NFL QB. As for the attention he is getting I agree he deserves every bit of it because he has earned the limelight by his play which has been outstanding.
 

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But the difference is Romo is getting the media attention because of his play in the games. He wasn't getting this attention before he started. Bush got it the day he was drafted. And it hasn't changed. Everyone now is talking about Bush and his 4 touchdowns, saying how great of an accomplishment that was. Of course, no one brings up the stats for him rushing. They all go gagga for his recieving numbers and yards after the catch. But you never see them start their story or have a headline talking about his rushing numbers. No one wants to bring that up. Like I said earlier, it's all about where you are drafted. If Romo was drafted high, and was putting up putrid numbers like Bush, people probably would still be gloating over his raw talent and some of his amazing throws during a game. Just as they do for Bush and some of his runs. The media coverage Romo gets is because it is deserved. He is #1 in QB rating. Not because of hype, or media perception or expectations. Because of his play. Yes Bush is a talent, but come on. 3.1 ypc is terrible not only for someone like Bush, but for ANY rb in this league. Julius Jones would certainly be benched in favor of Barber if that was what he was producing on the ground.
 

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alancdc;1215333 said:
If you watch the games you will realize he is unlike other QB's that have had a good run and flamed out. Consider this, his first start was against the Panthers on the road, and they had just won 4 out of 5 , we were down 14-0, and HE led us back. The guy is going to be GREAT, and if others don't believe it then all we can do is wait and see!
That's an excellent point.

Romo has overcome seven different deficits so far (eight if the Skins don't block that FG), including five of a touchdown or more. Four of his six starts were on the road, and the combined winning percentage of the opponents is .444

I looked at Kurt Warner's first 6 starts. The Rams played 4 of their first 6 at home that season, against bad teams whose combined winning percentage was .291, and St. Louis only trailed once in those six games--a 3-point 1st quarter deficit.
 

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PJCOWBOYS;1215435 said:
Romo isn't getting half the hype Bush has gotten. Get real. Everyone in the media wants to say he is the next Gale Sayers or Barry Sanders. As bad as our own Julius Jones has been producing of late, nothing compared to the putrid rushing stats for Bush. 368 rushing yards for a whopping 3.1 ypc. If Sanders or Sayers did that their rookie years, they probably would have been benched by now this far into the season. Yet it's the great Bush doing this. So he gets a pass.
Well in fairness Bush gets a pass because hes not our primary running back and hes leading the league in receptions:eek::
 

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SaintReginald;1215475 said:
Well in fairness Bush gets a pass because hes not our primary running back and hes leading the league in receptions:eek::

Romo was the backup, currently he leads the league in rating, TD% ypa, and he's leading the #2 scoring offense in the NFL. Reggie doesn't even approach that impact. They both get hyped alot. One of them actually deserves it.
 

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i just want to say quickly that ive read through all the replies now and i do think youve answered my question. Thats what i wanted on the issue, some perpective and now it makes sense.
Keep in mind i dont get to watch many cowboys games from overseas..strangely theyve been showing saints games nearly every week on their local channels here. Must be the katrina buzz or something..

btw..please refrain from hurling out katrina related insults...i dont recall posting anything offensive so its not nice :)

nice message board though. ill probably come here to talk general football sometimes
 

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Uh....what does that have to do with ypc? Jones for us is splitting time with Barber, he also isn't getting a full load. Yet, he still is around 3.9 ypc. So Bush gets a pass because he doesn't run the ball 40 times a game? I'm disappointed with Jones and wish he was doing better. I am not making an excuse for him or his lack of carries because of it. You should be doing the same with Bush. With his quickness and explosiveness, he should be getting 5.0 ypc easy. No matter how many runs a game he gets.

SaintReginald;1215475 said:
Well in fairness Bush gets a pass because hes not our primary running back and hes leading the league in receptions:eek::
 

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National Saint worship has equaled Romo worship. Its a wash.
 

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PJCOWBOYS;1215489 said:
Uh....what does that have to do with ypc? Jones for us is splitting time with Barber, he also isn't getting a full load. Yet, he still is around 3.9 ypc. So Bush gets a pass because he doesn't run the ball 40 times a game? I'm disappointed with Jones and wish he was doing better. I am not making an excuse for him or his lack of carries because of it. You should be doing the same with Bush. With his quickness and explosiveness, he should be getting 5.0 ypc easy. No matter how many runs a game he gets.

whoa slow down there buddy. I'm not making excuses or saying that bush isnt overhyped. I mistakenly though that him being overhyped was obvious, but i do (like most) think he will be a force in the league in new orleans or somewhere else in time. He is not a between the tackles runner, and yes he has struggled this season. Only time will tell with reggie, but there must be something coaches around the league are seeing in him because despite our number 1 rated passing attack defenses primarily focus on containing him week in and week out.
 

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So this quote by you isn't an excuse? Ok. I guess if Julius Jones was drafted #2 or so, and his name was Julius Bush, I too think he would deserve a pass also. But since he wasn't or isn't, he doesn't get a pass.

"Well in fairness Bush gets a pass because hes not our primary running back and hes leading the league in receptions"


SaintReginald;1215508 said:
whoa slow down there buddy. I'm not making excuses or saying that bush isnt overhyped. I mistakenly though that him being overhyped was obvious, but i do (like most) think he will be a force in the league in new orleans or somewhere else in time. He is not a between the tackles runner, and yes he has struggled this season. Only time will tell with reggie, but there must be something coaches around the league are seeing in him because despite our number 1 rated passing attack defenses primarily focus on containing him week in and week out.
 

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PJCOWBOYS;1215517 said:
So this quote by you isn't an excuse? Ok. I guess if Julius Jones was drafted #2 or so, and his name was Julius Bush, I too think he would deserve a pass also. But since he wasn't or isn't, he doesn't get a pass.

"Well in fairness Bush gets a pass because hes not our primary running back and hes leading the league in receptions"

alright ill try to explain bush to ya...
Bush suffered severe growing pains this season realizing that you cant run circles around nfl defenses like you can in the pac 10. That said he has been a solid receiver for us, particularly on 3rd downs.
If i seem like im giving "excuses" by telling you what bush has done for our team behind the statistics then i'm sorry but the reality is bush has opened up the rest of our offense by being such a threat. Bush is prepared for more and focused on more from defenses than possibly any other rookie in the history of the nfl. This focus has opened up our passing attack, and allowed people like henderson to torch the falcons for 160 yards.

Just so i understand what your point is (cuz im not sure i see what this has to do with my posts) are you saying that bill parcells should not count reggie bush as a big threat in his planning for this weeks showdown?
 

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SaintReginald;1215546 said:
alright ill try to explain bush to ya...
Bush suffered severe growing pains this season realizing that you cant run circles around nfl defenses like you can in the pac 10. That said he has been a solid receiver for us, particularly on 3rd downs.
If i seem like im giving "excuses" by telling you what bush has done for our team behind the statistics then i'm sorry but the reality is bush has opened up the rest of our offense by being such a threat. Bush is prepared for more and focused on more from defenses than possibly any other rookie in the history of the nfl. This focus has opened up our passing attack, and allowed people like henderson to torch the falcons for 160 yards.

Just so i understand what your point is (cuz im not sure i see what this has to do with my posts) are you saying that bill parcells should not count reggie bush as a big threat in his planning for this weeks showdown?

The point is - Romo deserves the hype. He has been a dynamic player, and turned a team around.
 

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What? Where in my posts am I talking about his receiving abilities? I am talking about HIS rushing abilities. Period. So, even if Bush was getting 0.000000000000001 ypc, that would be ok, and he'd still be getting a pass, because of his GREAT receiving abilities? He came into this league as a running back and if I'm not mistakin, he is still viewed as a running back.

SaintReginald;1215546 said:
alright ill try to explain bush to ya...
Bush suffered severe growing pains this season realizing that you cant run circles around nfl defenses like you can in the pac 10. That said he has been a solid receiver for us, particularly on 3rd downs.
If i seem like im giving "excuses" by telling you what bush has done for our team behind the statistics then i'm sorry but the reality is bush has opened up the rest of our offense by being such a threat. Bush is prepared for more and focused on more from defenses than possibly any other rookie in the history of the nfl. This focus has opened up our passing attack, and allowed people like henderson to torch the falcons for 160 yards.

Just so i understand what your point is (cuz im not sure i see what this has to do with my posts) are you saying that bill parcells should not count reggie bush as a big threat in his planning for this weeks showdown?
 

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SaintReginald;1215131 said:
I have a question and please dont say im trolling because it is a genuine curiosity. No matter what his potential is, or how good hes playing don't you think the media may have jumped the gun on Tony Romo? Thats not to say that he will not become the quarterback they are saying he already is but whatever happened to cautious optimism?
I think many of you would agree that the list of people who have been good for 6 games, or hell even one season is not a particularly short list and I think its odd that someone is being talked about like a hall of famer for his performance in 6 games. I mean hell, look at Aaron Brooks stats his first two years.

Just to let you know i mainly post this here because id like to see what cowboys fans think about this. I understand fanboyism, and its prevalent on our forums as well so you wont annoy me, just dont flame me.
My theory is that the media is overhyped to get behind certain teams. The cowboys were the most beloved team by the media in their superbowl years and now that it looks like its even possible they could have another aikman they are getting ahead of themselves.

Opinions?;)

Seems as everyone were saying similar things about Drew Brees with his initial play in SD. You do like him as your QB don't you? :)
 

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PJCOWBOYS;1215555 said:
What? Where in my posts am I talking about his receiving abilities? I am talking about HIS rushing abilities. Period. So, even if Bush was getting 0.000000000000001 ypc, that would be ok, and he'd still be getting a pass, because of his GREAT receiving abilities? He came into this league as a running back and if I'm not mistakin, he is still viewed as a running back.
you dont seem to understand the makeup of our team. We will have to agree to disagree on this but just fyi i think i made it clear that i wasnt questioning romo's talent or staying power. I was only questioning the media hype surrounding the past 6 games. Your acting as if i said romo was garbage and Saint Reggie was the supreme rushing RB in the league.
If you followed the hype over reggie anyway you would know he was mostly regarded as someone who was a big play threat on any down, and an amazing receiver out of the backfield. Someone who could create mismatches. Those things are true, and barring injury he will likely break the rookie receiving record (he needs 11 receptions)
Tony Romo has played very well and im not saying i doubt he will continue to do so. I'm just saying the media needs to slow down annointing new kings in all positions, on all teams. Do you agree with this?
 

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Anytime you're the starting QB for a big name franchise like NY or Dallas, you're going to get some attention, these are the big markets. Dallas has always been "America's Team" so you're going to get a large following because of the popularity. I mean you have to admit we've had our own fair share of a love affair with the nat'l media as well.
 

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SaintReginald;1215582 said:
I'm just saying the media needs to slow down annointing new kings in all positions, on all teams. Do you agree with this?
I definitely agree with that... but you have to admit Bush got as much or more hype and it's undeserved when compared to Romo's.

If you got a beef with the Romo hype, the Bush hype has to be worse.
 

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jazzcat22;1215563 said:
Seems as everyone were saying similar things about Drew Brees with his initial play in SD. You do like him as your QB don't you? :)

i wasnt bashing you guys for liking him lol. And of course i love brees. I'm preaching for cautious OPTIMISM not skepticism :)
 
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