Tony vs Danny

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If the 81 defensive scheme was so outdated then they would have never been in the NFCC game to begin with and then also follow it up by getting to the NFCC game again the following season.

The Cowboys had the most talented roster in the NFL loaded with great offensive and defensive players during the years they went to those conference title games but the modern day offenses like Bill Walsh's West Coast offense was staring to take over. Offenses were finding ways to run against Landry's flex defense which we saw against the 49ers in the first meeting in 81 during the regular season. SF pounded the Cowboys 45-14 due primarily to rushing the ball for 150 yards and 3 rushing TD's.

SF rushed for 127 yards in the title game and a good portion of that came on SF's final drive. Even Landry's own players were trying to get him to drop the flex defense after that game. In an interview Charlie Waters said he suggested to Landry to drop the flex defense and Landry looked at him like he had just accosted his daughter. Landry was married to that defense and his refusal to change with the times led to his demise.
 

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give me Danny today I see us winning SB's

but we still need a D

Danny much better than Romo

we all were spoiled with Roger
 

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Not to mention they had Joe "Cool" Montana and we had "No Danny, No" White.

That was also a big part of it. White out played Montana for 57 minutes of that game but when it came down to crunch time Montana got it done and White didn't.
 

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give me Danny today I see us winning SB's

but we still need a D

Danny much better than Romo

we all were spoiled with Roger

Danny today would be 62 years old. Danny of 33 years ago couldn't even reach a SB despite having the most talented roster in the NFL. Roger Staubach of 37 years ago couldn't get this current Cowboys team to a SB.
 

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Danny today would be 62 years old. Danny of 33 years ago couldn't even reach a SB despite having the most talented roster in the NFL. Roger Staubach of 37 years ago couldn't get this current Cowboys team to a SB.
That's true stuff right there..yes sir it is.:)
 

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I was a huge Danny White fan. I had his jersey when I was younger, but there is no way that Danny White was better than Tony Romo. Danny White was replaced by Steve Pelluer and Gary "freaking" Hogeboom. Tom Landry even had a duel starting quarterback system that was a disaster between Steve and Danny. Coach Landry implemented the system because he couldn't trust Danny.

Tony has made plenty of mistakes, but I would say that having watched both Tony and Danny that Tony was/is much better than Danny.
 

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I was a huge Danny White fan. I had his jersey when I was younger, but there is no way that Danny White was better than Tony Romo. Danny White was replaced by Steve Pelluer and Gary "freaking" Hogeboom. Tom Landry even had a duel starting quarterback system that was a disaster between Steve and Danny. Coach Landry implemented the system because he couldn't trust Danny.

Tony has made plenty of mistakes, but I would say that having watched both Tony and Danny that Tony was/is much better than Danny.

And I wouldn't be too sure that Landry wouldn't have done the same thing with Tony after 3 straight elimination game defeats. Danny led us to 3 straight NFC Championship games and that couldn't save him.
 

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And I wouldn't be too sure that Landry wouldn't have done the same thing with Tony after 3 straight elimination game defeats. Danny led us to 3 straight NFC Championship games and that couldn't save him.

"Three straight elimination game defeats."

I don't want to be an apologist for any player, but I think to throw those games at the feet of Tony Romo is unfair. Just like it was unfair to throw those 3 straight NFC championship defeats at Danny.

I don't believe that Landry would have done the same to Tony, but I understand the opinion. In my opinion Tony was/is a better quarterback, but I loved Danny and I would never take anything away from his career.

If Tony Romo never accomplishes anything else I might change my opinion, but the truth of the matter is that it is my belief that one of the reasons this team is competitive is because this team is lucky enough to have Tony.
 

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"Three straight elimination game defeats."

I don't want to be an apologist for any player, but I think to throw those games at the feet of Tony Romo is unfair. Just like it was unfair to throw those 3 straight NFC championship defeats at Danny.

I don't believe that Landry would have done the same to Tony, but I understand the opinion. In my opinion Tony was/is a better quarterback, but I loved Danny and I would never take anything away from his career.

If Tony Romo never accomplishes anything else I might change my opinion, but the truth of the matter is that it is my belief that one of the reasons this team is competitive is because this team is lucky enough to have Tony.

I don't think Tony's totally responsible for those defeats....well maybe the Washington game...but he didn't show up big either. The reason I said that was because the QB's that Landry replaced Danny with weren't even in his league. I knew Hogeboom would be a bust but Landry gave in to public demands. By the middle to late 80's Dallas was in decline. Danny was one of the main reasons Dallas was competitive. We were 6-2 in 1986 until he got hurt and we finished 7-9. Danny was never the same QB after. That's why he was replaced by Pelluer. By the time he retired, he was a shell of what he was. I never really blamed Danny for our failures in the 1980's. Maybe I wasn't as skeptical as I am now. All of these 8-8 seasons and seeing how we wasted Romo's career has gotten to me.
 

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Thinking about that Commanders game physically hurts.

I have to laugh to keep from crying, but those memories of Danny White getting replaced hurt almost as bad. Danny White was the one player that I loved the only jersey I ever bought. Those memories of Danny have faded though and maybe I'm not giving Danny enough credit.

It has been so many years and my memories aren't what they were, but Tony is our quarterback and I have to hope that he still has time to make his mark. But in the end this is a team game. The Cowboys will win or lose not because of a mistake that happens in the final game, but because this defense was so poorly put together.

I hope I'm wrong about this defense, but I guess we will find out soon.
 

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"Three straight elimination game defeats."

I don't want to be an apologist for any player, but I think to throw those games at the feet of Tony Romo is unfair.

It would be unfair because Romo lost 2 straight elimination games not 3 straight. Orton was the QB in the Cowboys elimination game loss to Philly last season.
 

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"Three straight elimination game defeats."

I don't want to be an apologist for any player, but I think to throw those games at the feet of Tony Romo is unfair.

The loss to the Commanders was Tony Romo. He threw some horrendous passes in a game the Cowboys should have won, including a second-down interception one of his defenders on here called as good as a "punt." :rolleyes:
 

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same as yours
what colour is the sky in your world?


same as yours oh wait I am not in Canada

but give me the athletes today with Danny throwing to them

I don't think anybody could have followed Roger and done as well as Danny," Coach Tom Landry remarked. "Danny was a solid winner".
 

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Danny
His record as the Cowboys' starting quarterback was 62-32 (.659 winning percentage) during the regular season, and 5-5 in the playoffs.

Romo
34 - 27 - and playoff 0-1
 

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What is the true differences?


1. Tony 6'2" 230lbs

2. Danny 6'2" 199lbs

3. Tony 12 years 2003 to present.

4.Danny 1976 to 1989 (12 years)

5. Tony 29,565 yards passing

6. Danny 21,959 yards passing

7. Tony 208 to 101.... TD to int (Even though he is mister turn over)

8. Danny 155 to 132 TD to int

9. Tony 95.8 Passer rating all time

10. Danny 81.7 rating all time

Argue size ,verses running league then verses Passer league now verses no championships equals...are these two the same person a generation apart?

I will say,,i think Tony has what it takes "If" he has parts around him...I hope old boy gets a shot , at 34 he better get after it.

i hated the Danny white years...i was spoiled early on. Roger...White.....Troy....Tony.......Will tony break the cycle or will it take new blood?

I know.....Booooooooo!

Carefull now, you are treading into deep water....Good luck..... I said that a few months ago and got hammered by the Romo statisticians...
 
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