Top 3 seeds out of reach

[Doomsday101]

It's a done deal. Prepare yourself.

We have already lost tiebreakers to the Packers and Saints. And the 49ers have banked 7 wins.

That's the cold reality.

Cold reality is there is still half a season to go. No one knows the outcome so claiming what is the best case is useless. Some of us have watched the NFL for a very long time and know damn well nothing is settled in October. That is the reality of the NFL

 

[gimmesix]

I think we can realistically lose three more games and win the NFC East. That's my starting point. I would love for Dallas to go on a run and not lose another game, but I don't see that being the reality of this team.

 

[Joe Realist]

I think the Eagles are going to end up winning the East with 10 wins and Cowboys end up with 9, out of playoffs

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

This is loser talk. Why don't you go hide until training camp next year since you got no balls. Good bye and thank you....

Is he wrong though? We are 2 games behind the Saints and the Packers, and 3 behind the 49ers. On top of that, Packers and Saints would have the tie breaker since they beat us. Our schedule gets harder, and our team is consistently inconsistent. We don't stand a chance in all honesty. 4th seed is the only way we get into the playoffs, and even then, we aren't in the clear.

Why is realistic talk considered loser talk to you?

 

[Praxit]

....well the OP is pretty much on. Some teams are out of reach. Dallas just needs to keep winning. Now, if we look at statistics and algorithms, it doesn't play out well for us. Reasons>>>>>>HC.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

at this thread.

 

[RoyalCowboy]

Wow, another defeatist attitude on cowboys zone, shocker.

 

[CWR]

Looks like the 49ers, Packers and Saints will battle it out for the top 3 seeds.

Best case scenario is the Cowboys at #4 and getting a team like the Rams or Vikings at home. Maybe they win. Maybe they don't.

If they win, they get slammed on the road the following week.

In other words, another typical Jason Garrett year. And that's the best case. We may not make the playoffs at all if the Eagles start rebounding.

Maybe that's for the best. Garrett would have to be gone if they miss the playoffs, wouldn't he?

There's a lot of football still left. Quick example, Arod gets hurt. GBs season would be lost. Anyways thats just one example of the many possibilities before this season concludes.

 

[Direwolf63]

Seriously, why even watch if this is truly your outlook?

It can’t be enjoyable.

Or are you just being dramatic on an Internet message board?

I am struggling to enjoy it.

Losing to the Jets should be a firing offense all by itself. There is simply no excuse. None.

It just tells me that this team cannot reach the level of top tier teams in the NFC. It might be different if they were in the AFC because it's so weak, but they are not.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think the Eagles are going to end up winning the East with 10 wins and Cowboys end up with 9, out of playoffs

If I had to bet, I probably would agree with that but then I do not have enough data like them playing against MIN. That game will affect what I think their chances are because I have them right there with DAL as well as LAR.

But I really have no expectations at this point because I haven't seen enough.

 

[Flamma]

Looks like the 49ers, Packers and Saints will battle it out for the top 3 seeds.

Best case scenario is the Cowboys at #4 and getting a team like the Rams or Vikings at home. Maybe they win. Maybe they don't.

If they win, they get slammed on the road the following week.

In other words, another typical Jason Garrett year. And that's the best case. We may not make the playoffs at all if the Eagles start rebounding.

Maybe that's for the best. Garrett would have to be gone if they miss the playoffs, wouldn't he?

So you don't think the Seahawks are making the playoffs?

It does look bleak for a top 3 seed. And Dallas would have to do something they haven't done since 1980 if they're not a top 2 seed. But I'm not about to count them out just yet. Let's see how this defense progresses as the season goes on. A lot of games left.

 

[Sydla]

I don't know about the second part of the OP, although history would indicate we likely aren't going to go very far in the playoffs if we get there.

But the 1st part is likely pretty accurate at this point. There is little chance we can get into the Top 2 which would give us a home game in the divisional round.

Saints and Packers are 7-1. 49ers are 7-0.

- In order to get into the Top 2, if we were to win out, we'd need a combination of two of the below:

1. 49ers to likely finish 6-3, with those three losses in conference
2. Packers to go 5-3 and finish 12-4 as we lose the tiebreaker with them
3. Saints to go 5-3 and finish 12-4 as we lose the tiebreaker with them

- If we were to lose one game (likely with a road game in NE) and finish 12-4 we'd need a combo of two of the below:

1. 49ers to likely finish 5-4 and hope those 4 losses are in conference.
2. Packers to go 4-4 and finish 11-5 as we lose the tiebreaker with them
3. Saints to go 4-4 and finish 11-4 as we lose the tiebreaker with them

- If we lose two games, it is close to impossible to get the 49ers because we'd have the worst conference record. So in that case, we'd need BOTH the Packers and Saints to collapse and both finished 3-5 or worse.

In other words, we are playing for the 4th seed most likely as the OP noted.

 

[CapnB]

what looks like certainty today might not look as certain in 3 weeks. I got that from a fortune cookie dont @me

 

[Direwolf63]

So you don't think the Seahawks are making the playoffs?

It does look bleak for a top 3 seed. And Dallas would have to do something they haven't done since 1980 if they're not a top 2 seed. But I'm not about to count them out just yet. Let's see how this defense progresses as the season goes on. A lot of games left.

Good point on the Seahawks. The Rams may not make the playoffs. Seahawks look better right now.

 

[Flamma]

Good point on the Seahawks. The Rams may not make the playoffs. Seahawks look better right now.

I know. It's going to be an all out war in the NFC west going forward. It's going to be tough for 3 teams to make the playoffs from 1 div.

 

[Proximo]

Best case scenario is the Cowboys at #4 and getting a team like the Rams or Vikings at home. Maybe they win. Maybe they don't.

If they win, they get slammed on the road the following week.

In other words, another typical Jason Garrett year. And that's the best case.

If, in your mind, this is truly the only possible best outcome, why would you even waste your time watching?

 

[Risen Star]

Agreed. We're simply trying to win a terrible division to get molested in the playoffs. It means nothing to me.

The 49ers are probably the class of the NFC.

 

[Walker]

At the halfway point and the sky is falling? Well done.

The sky was falling before even week 1

 

[StylisticS]

This is loser talk. Why don't you go hide until training camp next year since you got no balls. Good bye and thank you....

loser or reality? Just enjoy the ride but be realistic as well.

 

[cowboyblue22]

I don't know about the second part of the OP, although history would indicate we likely aren't going to go very far in the playoffs if we get there.

But the 1st part is likely pretty accurate at this point. There is little chance we can get into the Top 2 which would give us a home game in the divisional round.

Saints and Packers are 7-1. 49ers are 7-0.

- In order to get into the Top 2, if we were to win out, we'd need a combination of two of the below:

1. 49ers to likely finish 6-3, with those three losses in conference
2. Packers to go 5-3 and finish 12-4 as we lose the tiebreaker with them
3. Saints to go 5-3 and finish 12-4 as we lose the tiebreaker with them

- If we were to lose one game (likely with a road game in NE) and finish 12-4 we'd need a combo of two of the below:

1. 49ers to likely finish 5-4 and hope those 4 losses are in conference.
2. Packers to go 4-4 and finish 11-5 as we lose the tiebreaker with them
3. Saints to go 4-4 and finish 11-4 as we lose the tiebreaker with them

- If we lose two games, it is close to impossible to get the 49ers because we'd have the worst conference record. So in that case, we'd need BOTH the Packers and Saints to collapse and both finished 3-5 or worse.

In other words, we are playing for the 4th seed most likely as the OP noted.

at best