Trade a 3rd and Peerless for Charles Rogers..

[Rack]

I'm Charles Rogers... I caught 68 passes and 16 touchdowns!


^^^ Madden 2003 (?) commercial.

 

[Justis]

I'm Charles Rogers... I caught 68 passes and 16 touchdowns!


^^^ Madden 2003 (?) commercial.

It'd have to be madden 2004

 

[Rack]

Eh, not important.

Much like this thread.

 

[blindzebra]

We'd be getting screwed if it were Price for Rogers STRAIGHT UP.

No offense, but that isn't a very intelligent comment. Price available to anyone who wished to sign him and nobody was even remotely serious. He is going to be here for 12 more games and that's it. And it doesn't look like he'll even be active, let alone a part of the offense anytime soon.

Detroit would be lucky, and probably very happy, to get a conditional 2nd day pick for him at this point.

As for Rogers, like I said, he's still the 6-3, 220 pound WR who was the 2nd overall pick in the draft. I never heard of any problems with him prior to this one. I imagine he smoked a little pot and got caught.

I can see a 3rd rounder is a bit of a stretch, but 5th rounders are where you take your chances on flawed players anyway. I would jump at that opportunity to get a guy with this talent.

Look at it this way, Antonio Bryant never had the talent Rogers possesses, yet we took a reasonable chance on him with a 3rd rounder. Now a change of scenary has Bryant flourishing. Now I say it again, who wouldn't give up a 5th rounder to see if Rogers can live up to that incredible potential?

No what is not intelligent is suggesting giving up a proven WR and a 3rd round pick for a guy that has played 9 games in 2 plus years and has just gotten a 4 game suspension.

Owens cost Philly a 5th round pick and a player that did not even make the 49ers roster...why does the word clueless come to mind?

 

[Sarge]

Now is the time to pry Rogers away. Judging by the comments from coaches and teammates, he might not be welcomed back. Peerless is not happy being inactive and he is not a future solution at WR anyway. Rogers could be.

Do you work for the Detroit Lions?

 

[joseephuss]

Charles Rogers was not that much greater of a talent coming out of college than Antonio Bryant. Bryant had won the Biletnikoff award as a sophomore. The problem for Bryant was that everyone saw that he was a head case and didn't want to waste a 1st round pick on him. It looks like Dallas even reached for a 2nd. A do over and I think Bryant slides to the 4th and that is all because of what is in his head because physically the guy can play. He isn't lighting it up in Cleveland. He is doing just enough to tease people to think he can be special.

Rogers didn't have baggage coming out of college. There was a small hint when just before the draft there were questions about his drug test. Apparently his sample was watered down. Put his current suspension together with that and maybe you have him trying to hide drug use at that time. Check his locker for the urinator. And that test doesn't count against the 3 strikes and you are suspended for 4 games rule. That means he has at least 4 suspect or failed tests. One more and he is out for a whole season. That is a high risk.

You can't compare Rogers to what Irvin did in Dallas. Irvin had already been a part of 3 Superbowl victories and produced at a high level before his off field problems. That is production for Irvin over potential for Rogers.

Personally, it doesn't look like Rogers is truly 6'-3" and 220 lbs. He looks smaller to me. Not small, just not as big as he is listed. Like someone else posted, Randall Williams is bigger and faster.

I wouldn't trade for Rogers at all. At this point there just are too many questions and conerns and not enough proven NFL production. I may look into him after he is cut, which I think Detroit will do at the end of the year or next June 1st.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

I wouldn't touch Charles Rogers. After reading about his drug tests when he's already missed most of his career because of his injuries, I can't help but think B-U-S-T.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Do you work for the Detroit Lions?

:laugh2: :laugh2:

LMAO thinking about teams visiting anonymous message boards trying to pimp their busts! "Hey Cowboys fans, I hear that Maurice Clarett is an All-Pro player just waiting to happen. Mike Shanah.....I mean, some Broncos fans told me. You guys really should spread the word! Please... I beg of you..."

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Let's be patient......Rogers may be released.....then we can decide on him and give up nothing......that sounds better to me!

3rd's are to valuable.........

 

[dguinta1]

I didn' think this thread would get this must attention.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Considering he got a 4 game sit down this time, meaning he has had prior troubles and warnings.

Add into the idea that he is almost always getting injured.

That pick of Roy Williams they made even after taking a WR #1 the last two years....does not look so bad for them now.

I was thinking they were just taking best available athlete no matter what...now it appears they were getting insurance not only from a oft injured player, but maybe one with drug concerns.

 

[HanfordDixon]

huh? you been watching the games? his big game this season was 7 catches -- of course, he got a huge penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct to offset a big reception. AB is nothing special.

He's the leading receiver on a bad team and on pace for 80 catches and 1000 yards. Of course, we got Quincy Morgan...

Rogers hasn't show squat in the NFL -- who cares what he did in college.

yeah, you're right because college is never a good indicator of what a player will do in the pros. Neither is height, weight or speed.

 

[HanfordDixon]

No what is not intelligent is suggesting giving up a proven WR and a 3rd round pick for a guy that has played 9 games in 2 plus years and has just gotten a 4 game suspension.

OK, can you read? I agree a 3rd is too high. That is more in the range where you can still draft a starter with reasonable expectations. A 5th round pick, however, is Sean Ryan. He is Kareem Larrimore. He is a talented player with upside that you take a chance on. If you get a chance to take a player rated at the very top of his draft class for a 5th rounder -- you take that chance in a heartbeat.

Owens cost Philly a 5th round pick and a player that did not even make the 49ers roster...why does the word clueless come to mind?

Yes, clueless does come to mind, but I won't call you names. First of all, the player was DE Brandon Whiting and he did make the Niners roster. Secondly, Owens was a special case who abused the Niners organization to the point they couldn't get anything for him. There's no comparing the problems of Owens with Rogers, who has been contrite about his current problem.

 

[Doomsday101]

Rogers is 6-3, 220 and was the 2nd overall pick in the draft.

Sometimes you gotta take chances if you're going to return to the top.

A 5th rounder and Price. Offer it.

He is also about to be suspended, sorry I don't think it is a smart move getting a player who is going to miss part of the season due to a failed drug test.

 

[Longboysfan]

Why make a trade for a big contract when this guy will be cut after his suspension? He won't see the '06 season with Detroit. I've got no problem with taking a free look at someone but taking over a big contract, losing a more productive career player who at least has had some time to study the playbook, and giving up a pick for a guy would could hand you out to dry with his next toke -- No freaking way.

I'll go out on a limb right now and say it is never going to happen

Bingo... Bingo... :starspin

 

[joseephuss]

huh? you been watching the games? his big game this season was 7 catches -- of course, he got a huge penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct to offset a big reception. AB is nothing special.

He's the leading receiver on a bad team and on pace for 80 catches and 1000 yards. Of course, we got Quincy Morgan...

Rogers hasn't show squat in the NFL -- who cares what he did in college.

yeah, you're right because college is never a good indicator of what a player will do in the pros. Neither is height, weight or speed.

Quincy Morgan was bigger and faster than Bryant and had some decent numbers for a young receiver in his first couple of years in the NFL. He did absolutley nothing in Dallas. I guess it highlights that there are no guarantees. I don't think Rogers is in that good of a situation since he has already missed two years. Morgan wasn't worth trading for and neither is Rogers. Now Morgan was worth picking up after being released just like Pittsburg did. That is what teams will do with Rogers.

 

[HanfordDixon]

He is also about to be suspended, sorry I don't think it is a smart move getting a player who is going to miss part of the season due to a failed drug test.

It's not about this season.

 

[Hiero]

i'd be willing to take him for a later round pick definitely. he would have to redo his contract though, as im sure no team is going to be willing to take that on. Would be a risk, but big risks sometimes payoff big. We could get our #1 receiver for a 5th round pick, instead of 1st round pick. then again we use a 5th round pick and get nothing, oh well it happens, we can just move on.

 

[HanfordDixon]

Quincy Morgan was bigger and faster than Bryant and had some decent numbers for a young receiver in his first couple of years in the NFL. He did absolutley nothing in Dallas. I guess it highlights that there are no guarantees. I don't think Rogers is in that good of a situation since he has already missed two years. Morgan wasn't worth trading for and neither is Rogers. Now Morgan was worth picking up after being released just like Pittsburg did. That is what teams will do with Rogers.

Quincy Morgan was not the second overall pick in the draft.

 

[Doomsday101]

Quincy Morgan was bigger and faster than Bryant and had some decent numbers for a young receiver in his first couple of years in the NFL. He did absolutley nothing in Dallas. I guess it highlights that there are no guarantees. I don't think Rogers is in that good of a situation since he has already missed two years. Morgan wasn't worth trading for and neither is Rogers. Now Morgan was worth picking up after being released just like Pittsburg did. That is what teams will do with Rogers.

Quincy Morgan was not the second overall pick in the draft.

what does past draft selection have to do with anything? The guy is getting suspended for drug use and you want to bring him to Dallas. No thanks we have been there and done that and frankly I'm sick of seeing our guys getting in trouble and suspended, if a player can't be counted on to stay clean then I sure as hell do not want him.