Trade a 3rd and Peerless for Charles Rogers..

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What is the no brainer is trading for a guy who has not been able to even play a third of a season in 3 years. Injured. Injured. Drug suspension. Why is this so easy for everyone else to add up and not the starter of this thread?
This guy has trouble written all over him- and has been shown to be fragile.
DUMB MOVE.
It is clear now why Detroit spent another first rd pick on a WR- they KNEW that Rogers was a blown pick.
 

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I would support this but Detroit has to agree to it number one, number two it must pass throught BP's approval. And number three he must not have any ego or else he wont set foot into Texas Stadium during a home game. The cap hit would be crazy. Whats left of that SB would be accelerated to this offseason and would suck for them.
 

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What is the no brainer is trading for a guy who has not been able to even play a third of a season in 3 years. Injured. Injured. Drug suspension. Why is this so easy for everyone else to add up and not the starter of this thread?

Well I think you have to understand what you get for a 5th round pick. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but 90 percent of the time 5th round picks are special teams players and backups.

Again, look at what Bryant is providing for the Browns. And Rogers was a far bigger talent than Bryant. Sometimes a change of scenary does wonders.
 

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HanfordDixon said:
Now is the time to pry Rogers away. Judging by the comments from coaches and teammates, he might not be welcomed back. Peerless is not happy being inactive and he is not a future solution at WR anyway. Rogers could be.

Rogers is a huge bust right now, and he apparently has drug issues

I wouldnt trade them a bag of dead flies for him, much less a player AND a premium draft pick

even the few times Rogers has been on the field, he hasnt shown anything

David
 

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HanfordDixon said:
You still haven't commented on his suspension for drugs....im waiting to see what your view is on trading for a WR that just got suspened for drugs....

What about it? Michael Irvin used drugs the entire time he was winning you Super Bowls. Randy Moss still smokes weed and is in the league's drug program. Of course you would want to insure that Rogers is committed to not continuing that behavior. But guys with this kind of talent always get second, third and fourth chances.

Because they can dominate games with their sheer ability. Parcells has a nice record of thriving with these kinds of players -- be it LT or Keyshawn. It would of course be up to Bill to determine if Rogers were a kind of player he could get the most out of... but Dallas should be looking into it. We have a real long-term need for a franchise WR.

Charles Rogers hasnt shown anywhere near the ability of the other players you mentioned...he isnt worth the time and definitely not worth any sort of investment

David
 

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can he play special teams? thats a major reason why Price isnt dressing on sundays.
 

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Rogers is a huge bust right now, and he apparently has drug issues

Not so much "a huge bust" as a player who has had some tough injuries. Like I said, if it turns out he smoked a little weed and Parcells thinks he can handle him and bring out his enormous talent, then it's a no-brainer.

I wouldnt trade them a bag of dead flies for him, much less a player AND a premium draft pick


Let me clue you in here -- a 5th round pick isn't "a premium pick."
 

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Charles Rogers hasnt shown anywhere near the ability of the other players you mentioned...he isnt worth the time and definitely not worth any sort of investment

Sorry, but he has. An NCAA record TD catch in 12 straight games and 2800+ yards receiving in just two years. Did you miss the part about him being the 2nd overall pick in the draft?

He's an elite WR prospect who stands 6-3, weighs 220 and runs a 4.4. Sorry, but that's worth a 5th round flyer in any league. Price is just a throw in to get rid of him.
 

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can he play special teams? thats a major reason why Price isnt dressing on sundays.


And there wouldn't be any reason to dress Rogers either. Get him in the program, working with Calvin Hill, and let him cool his heels for the season while Parcells works on him. Bust him down a notch.

The thing that usually helps in these situations is simply getting away from a place where enormous expectations have been placed upon the player's shoulders. Then within the blink of an eye he was all but declared a bust and other players have passed him by while Rogers is either a. ignored or b. ridiculed and booed.

Getting him out of Detroit and pushing him into the background for awhile might be just the thing to get this guy back on track. The bottom line is the same -- is it worth a 5th round flyer and dumping Price? Hell yeah.
 

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More than likely he will be traded like Rod Gardner was, for a late round pick. Gardner isnt exactly tearing it up in Carolina but he isnt whining like he was in DC. Rogers seems like he would be headed to Chicago or Minn as they are closers to Mich. St. I wouldnt be unhappy if he came here as long as he doesnt throw a jersey into BP's face.
 

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Sorry, I just have a real affection for 6-foot-3, 220-pound wide receivers who run a 4.4...

But I could understand that after Ross and Bryant that they might not be interested in another troubled head case. But It'd be nice to be on the receiving end of someone else's head case for a change.

Bryant looks real good so far.
 

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HanfordDixon said:
Bryant looks real good so far.

huh? you been watching the games? his big game this season was 7 catches -- of course, he got a huge penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct to offset a big reception. AB is nothing special.

Rogers hasn't show squat in the NFL -- who cares what he did in college.
 

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Offer them Zimmer and Payton for Rogers. 2 older bums for 1 younger bum. That sounds like a fair trade.
 

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last thing we need is some overpaid prima donna coming in to ruin what chemistry we've managed to achieve. What the heck has he done to warrant our interest anyway. He's a draft bust and were the last ones to figure it out.
 

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HanfordDixon said:
Sorry, I just have a real affection for 6-foot-3, 220-pound wide receivers who run a 4.4...


Randal Williams is faster and bigger then that.


He's proof that 6'3", 220+ lbs doesn't = good player.
 

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Rogers has been hurt and now he's being suspended for drugs. I wouldn't give you a 3rd for him much less throw in a sweetener and I like him.

Price is not on the trading block. Good or bad.
 

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I was a big Rogers fan when he was coming out of college. But after two missed seasons due to the same injury and now low production, plus a 4 game drug suspension (which means he's failed at least 3 tests) I don't think he would be a good fit for a trade.

One thing you have to understand is even though he got that $14 million signing bonus and low salaries his first few seasons, at some point his base salaries will become a problem. Especially if he's not producing like the #2 pick in the draft. You figure the guy had to get at least a $40 million overall contract. Subract that signing bonus and you have to make up $26 million over the course of 7 years. Now lets figure he has a base of $500,000 from years 1-3. That would mean there is over $24 million he's due in years 4-7. That would be an average of $6 million for those 4 years.

Now does that seem like a good deal to anyone? Drug suspension, minimal production, and high salary?

No, not to me.
 
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