Trade from a position of Strength for DE

[Alexander]

I wouldn't trade Collins, but I would check out wha the Jets want for Sheldon Richardson....Last year of his contract, wants out of NY...both Collins and Richardson will want a nice payday soon. Money goes to the Pass Rusher..

I know that. You know that.

Dallas has no interest in taking that "risk" on a player like Richardson.

It is much better to take the "risk" on the likes of Randy Gregory in the draft.

I can tell you right now, a move for a player like Richardson would give us a better chance to win.

Why wouldn't you take that opportunity if it is there?

Unless you are being cheap, there really is no other answer.

 

[Nightman]

I know that. You know that.

Dallas has no interest in taking that "risk" on a player like Richardson.

It is much better to take the "risk" on the likes of Randy Gregory in the draft.

I can tell you right now, a move for a player like Richardson would give us a better chance to win.

Why wouldn't you take that opportunity if it is there?

Unless you are being cheap, there really is no other answer.

If we traded them Thornton and a pick it would only add 5m to the cap

 

[CF74]

I'm not down...

 

[diefree666]

I know that. You know that.

Dallas has no interest in taking that "risk" on a player like Richardson.

It is much better to take the "risk" on the likes of Randy Gregory in the draft.

I can tell you right now, a move for a player like Richardson would give us a better chance to win.

Why wouldn't you take that opportunity if it is there?

Unless you are being cheap, there really is no other answer.

I am more and more of the opinion that the boys have made a strategic decision to scrimp as much as they can on D while spending on O.

 

[xwalker]

ARI traded Cooper to NE for C Jones

Maybe we can trade him back to ARI for CJones and complete the circle

AZ traded a 2nd round pick to NE for Chandler Jones. AZ threw in Cooper.

It's like the Patriots got and new car and AZ threw in a free car wash.

 

[JBond]

I know this probably wont be a popular thread, but please try to hear me out. Outside of the very young Secondary, most would agree that the DL is and has been our weakest position group since the days of Ware, Spencer, Ratliff, etc. Although I personally believe Dallas had accumulated a nice group of young players like Collins, Irving, Tapper, and Taco.. There is still concern due to the inexperience, suspensions, and ever growing list of injured players. I also think most fans opinion of our DL would change drastically if our Boy's had a Premier edge rusher coming off the right side. As much as I like Lawrence, he seems more suitable for the LDE position and would benefit if we had a 'DeMarcus Ware' player at the other end position. That said.. I wondered what our DL would look like had we pulled off a trade like the Cardinals did with the Patriots last year.
Last Year, the Cardinals received Chandler Jones via trade with the Patriots. The Pats received a second round pick and Jonathan Cooper. (Yes, Cooper..the guy thats presently on our team). The Pats went on to parlay that second round pick for Joe Tuney & Malcolm Mitchell. So, I suppose both teams benefitted depending on how you look at it. As far as Arizona is concerned, I believe they are perfectly happy how Chandler Jones performed: 49tkl, 11 sacks, 4 FF, and 3 PD.
My question I guess is.. Without touching the big three.. How would you feel if Dallas could trade Chaz Green or La'el Collins in order to shore up our DL with a Premier Pass rusher? I know we would take a hit with either of them off the team, But we have a mobile Qb and 3/5 of our line is All-Pro's..

Imagine our starting DL looking like this:
Lawrence-Collins-Irving-*Jones/etc

rotating in:
Tapper-Crawford-Paea-Taco/Mayowa

OK, let me have it:/

I used to fall into this trap of vastly over estimating the value of JAGS just because they were Cowboys. Why would anyone trade a bag of balls for either player you listed and who would take their place?

 

[BAT]

Didn't the Rams switch to a 3-4?

Yep and Wade is coaching that side of the ball to boot.

 

[BAT]

good point about baltimore.
what do they need beyond QB?

Slot corner and RB.

 

[BAT]

I've followed this kid since high school and went to Notre Dame. Weird, bizarre dude. Uber talented.

I'd love his talents on this team but you have to do some real solid research into this guy.

And 9ers are in dire need of LB help. Wilson and/or Wilber could be useful to them.

 

[Verdict]

If we can trade Chaz Green or La'el Collins for a premier pass rusher, then we should. Yes.

I personally wouldn't do it unless it was a healthy JJ Watt or Von Miller. Otherwise, no dice. The OL is the heart of the team. Maybe for Dez?

 

[BAT]

That was all lies. He was a bad influence on the higher ups from the Giselle publicity, photos leaked, and slapping scrub fatty coach's clipboard.

Our DLine loved him. Marinelli, the only man whom I care about's opinion on the fella loved him.

Haley loved him.

****.

Would have re-signed this scum bag in 2016 too but Hardy is never playing in NFL again, time to move on.

 

[Trouty]

Would have re-signed this scum bag in 2016 too but Hardy is never playing in NFL again, time to move on.

I hear ya, Mr. Fix It. I have been known to rue for longer than the average fella, tho

Dang, we just need that daggon position.

 

[dthahn]

That only happened because Belichick was utterly disgusted with Jones and wanted to make a point.

The OP's point is that trades like this do happen, which contradicts your point that they don't. The OP gave a good example with the Chandler Jones trade. The reason behind the trade is irrelevant.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Can't believe some think TWill or Butler have trade value. Rico??

As someone else said, this ain't baseball, we are trading minor league prospects like Rico for anything or those WRs either.

We aren't going to get some elite DE for nothing, we just have to hope who we have is good enough cause it ain't like we wheel and deal all that often or well.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I don't see a team with a "premier" pass rusher that would take Collins in trade, much less Green. Green might get you a third string end.

It would probably take some good players plus a first round pick. In other words, overpaying.

 

[Satchel89]

Trades like this don't happen in the NFL. Only on the scrub end of the roster.

This isn't baseball.

Exactly

 

[Jake]

I'm not really sure what player, honestly I was surprised that the Patriots traded Jones...

He was coming up on free agency and they weren't interested in paying him $80 million, as Arizona ultimately did. They did a similar thing with Jamie Collins, sending him to the Browns (who ended up extending him).

That's typically when you're going to see such a trade - when the guy is going to leave, anyway. Otherwise, teams don't trade away edge rushers in today's NFL.

 

[BAT]

Can't believe some think TWill or Butler have trade value. Rico??

As someone else said, this ain't baseball, we are trading minor league prospects like Rico for anything or those WRs either.

We aren't going to get some elite DE for nothing, we just have to hope who we have is good enough cause it ain't like we wheel and deal all that often or well.

Did anyone pose a trade for an elite DE, must have missed it.

 

[BAT]

It would probably take some good players plus a first round pick. In other words, overpaying.

Can you really overpay if the the outcome is a Super Bowl appearance? No way Cowboys can get past GB or NE without pressure on the passer and getting opposing offense off the field at critical points in game.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Can you really overpay if the the outcome is a Super Bowl appearance? No way Cowboys can get past GB or NE without pressure on the passer and getting opposing offense off the field at critical points in game.

Yes, you can overpay. The Vikings did that to get Herschel Walker. If we trade away essential players and draft picks that hurt you in other areas too much, you've overpayed. We definitely overpayed for Joey Galloway. He actually was a talented receiver, but wasn't worth what we gave up for him. If we gave up a first, plus quality players like Collins, and the DE we got was anything less than a holy terror to quarterbacks, it would not be worth it. You do have a point, however. It would be worth it if the upgrade on D got us a Super Bowl. That's a huge "if", however.