Trade up for Gurley?

[endersdragon]

I wouldn't exactly rely on Hardy--imminent suspension--or Lawrence--0 sacks last year--as sure things.

Value in this draft at RB. Can get a starter in Rd 3. Can you say the same for DE?

That being said, I actually am in favor of trading a couple spots for Gordon or Gurley now. Both are immediate impact guys and with Romo's age, that's exactly what we.need

Really Lawrence had 0 sacks last year? I suppose that play was technically this year, but I think that qualifies as a sack. He also sacked Rodgers once. The problem with hoping a running back falls into our laps is that it seems unlikely to happen at our spots, I think there will be 5-6 RBs gone by 60, and even more gone by 87.

 

[xwalker]

After reading through these responses, i believe the people who are against the trade up are the same ones who dont want us to trade for Ap. The others are willing/wanting us to trade for AP would not have a problem with this. IMO, id rather give away a 3rd and get back a 4th to get Gurley than trade a 1st or possibly 2nd for AP. We still will have a good chance to improve this D with a 2nd round pick.

I would much prefer a small trade up for Gurley over trading for AP.

Giving up picks AND paying big money to that same player is bad business in the modern NFL. Draft pick are salary cap management tools.

That doesn't even get into the fact that he is 30 year old RB.

 

[endersdragon]

I would much prefer a small trade up for Gurley over trading for AP.

Giving up picks AND paying big money to that same player is bad business in the modern NFL. Draft pick are salary cap management tools.

That doesn't even get into the fact that he is 30 year old RB.

But getting a RB in a trade always works out well between the Cowboys and Vikings... lol

 

[xwalker]

But getting a RB in a trade always works out well between the Cowboys and Vikings... lol

If only Mike Lynn was still the GM for the Vikings. We could get him to give us AP and a 1st round pick for Claiborne.

 

[AzorAhai]

I would much prefer a small trade up for Gurley over trading for AP.

Giving up picks AND paying big money to that same player is bad business in the modern NFL. Draft pick are salary cap management tools.

That doesn't even get into the fact that he is 30 year old RB.

So xwalker i find you to be one of the more knowledgeable posters here and I would like to get your opinion on this. How would you feel in this scenario-
SD picks Gordon or top OL instead of Gurley. He slides to pick 21 or 22. Then Dallas trades up to say 22 for Gurley.

1st (27) and 3rd (91) to Pitt
1st (22) and 4th (121) or 2016 4th rd pick

Would you be in favor of the trade or dislike the move?

 

[xwalker]

So xwalker i find you to be one of the more knowledgeable posters here and I would like to get your opinion on this. How would you feel in this scenario-
SD picks Gordon or top OL instead of Gurley. He slides to pick 21 or 22. Then Dallas trades up to say 22 for Gurley.

1st (27) and 3rd (91) to Pitt
1st (22) and 4th (121) or 2016 4th rd pick

I don't hate it. I would need to study the situation to see if I thought he would fall fall past 22 or not. It will depend on his medical checkup. If he projects to be ready for TC then he won't make it to #27. If he projects to start the season on the PUP then there is a good chance he will make it to #27.

Swapping 91 for 121 is not that significant.

 

[AzorAhai]

@xwalker

I completely agree. If dallas can get a pick back in the deal I think its not near as bad as giving up a 3rd outright. Thanks for the input.

To the Pup list thing, I would be incredibly surprised if he is a go game 1. Thats basically a 9 month recovery time and AP and Wes Welker are the only players who come to mind that recovered as quick. I would imagine he doesn't participate in training camp and he would start ramping it up right before the season. Pup list still seems likely to me.

 

[gmoney112]

So xwalker i find you to be one of the more knowledgeable posters here and I would like to get your opinion on this. How would you feel in this scenario-
SD picks Gordon or top OL instead of Gurley. He slides to pick 21 or 22. Then Dallas trades up to say 22 for Gurley.

1st (27) and 3rd (91) to Pitt
1st (22) and 4th (121) or 2016 4th rd pick

Would you be in favor of the trade or dislike the move?

I'd be in favor of that trade, if they're extremely confident he can be Marshawn Lynch. If he's not going to be destroying the competition, well there are a handful of backs in this draft that can produce at a high level.

I'm still on board for a Byron Jones/Kevin Johnson in the first since I think most of the DL are going to be pretty meh but if Gurley really is all that and a bag of chips, I don't think anyone in the long term would hate the move up.

 

[Gaede]

Really Lawrence had 0 sacks last year? I suppose that play was technically this year, but I think that qualifies as a sack. He also sacked Rodgers once. The problem with hoping a running back falls into our laps is that it seems unlikely to happen at our spots, I think there will be 5-6 RBs gone by 60, and even more gone by 87.

0 sacks in the regular season


How many did Mincey have in the postseason? Don't see anyone writing home about him?

 

[endersdragon]

I'd be in favor of that trade, if they're extremely confident he can be Marshawn Lynch. If he's not going to be destroying the competition, well there are a handful of backs in this draft that can produce at a high level.

I'm still on board for a Byron Jones/Kevin Johnson in the first since I think most of the DL are going to be pretty meh but if Gurley really is all that and a bag of chips, I don't think anyone in the long term would hate the move up.

Kevin Johnson won't get to us I think. The Steelers are high on him at 22, and there are some other teams that can take him ahead of us. Byron Jones... meh... doesn't seem much better than 2nd round CB talents.

 

[endersdragon]

0 sacks in the regular season


How many did Mincey have in the postseason? Don't see anyone writing home about him?

Mincey had 2 sacks and a forced fumble in the postseason and 6 sacks in the regular season... most rookies won't have that sort of production (heck, a lot of vets don't).

 

[Verdict]

I have heard all of the hype on Gurley, but I highly doubt that he is the next Adrian Peterson. Peterson was not only a great running back, but a freak of nature physical specimen as well. I am not sure of Gurley's build but I was of the impression that he is a much more slightly built running back than Peterson.

If he is the next Adrian Peterson, I think he would go top 10-15 even with the injury. If not, then he will probably be available at 27, or with striking distance with a small trade up. Personally, I would like to see us sit pat or trade down and end up with 4 picks in the top 100.

Peterson was a can't miss type of pick. I am not sure that Gurley fits in that category. But if the Cowboys think he is the next Peterson, then do what it takes to get him, because Peterson was a game changer.

 

[Zekeats]

1. Gurley 2. NA vs 1. Coleman 2. P.J. Williams

 

[Risen Star]

Keep in mind many of these people supported the Claiborne trade.

 

[Risen Star]

If he's such an elite talent, he should be long gone by 27. If he fell that far it would be wise to seek others looking to trade into our position for him- cash in big on a tradedown- because of the quality depth at the position in this draft.

Dez Bryant went 24th overall. Maybe the Cowboys should have traded down instead of up to get him. This so called elite talent.

 

[Spectre]

Dez Bryant went 24th overall. Maybe the Cowboys should have traded down instead of up to get him. This so called elite talent.

I've heard many regarding Gurley as the most elite rb talent since Adrian Peterson. That kind of praise gets (undeservedly) thrown around every draft about someone... but that's Calvin Johnson-type praise (if we're talking wr)... Guys on that level shouldn't make it out of the top 10. Given Gurley's injury though, it is unlikely he'd go that high. In the end, the Cowboys need someone who can play now. If Gurley is gone at 27, I'm not surprised in the least. If he's there, I'd have to give it serious consideration.