News: Trevor Lawrence and the Jags have agreed to a 5-year, $275M extension

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$60 million is not the market. No QB is making that average per year. Dak would be resetting the market to get that.
Bro it's heading that way are you not watching or you dint see the trend!? What has Trevor Lawrence done yet he's making the most out of all QBs.....stop and even if he only gets 57 or 58 is it that far from 60 to make a difference in your mind....like seriously
 

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This is not how the NFL works.............using your definition, no more than a handfull of QBs would ever get paid, but that is not what we are seeing in the NFL.

Is Josh Allen elite?
Is Lamar Jackson elite?
Is Jared Golf elite?
Is Trevor Lawrence elite?
Is Justin Herbert elite?
Is Jalen Hurts elite?

All these QBs above have gotten new mega contracts, literally all of them in the hundreds of millions of dollars. I would argue that none of them are on the same level as Rodgers, Manning, or Brady, yet they all got paid. That is how the system works under the current CBA the owners agreed to. You dont have to be one of the best QBs of all time to get paid, that thinking is just fantasy land. And Dak, like the others above, will indeed get paid a market contract as well. Maybe with Dallas, maybe by somebody else, but he will be getting paid by somebody because his salary this year is $45 million. How do you think he would not make more than that if he could negotiate with every team in the league. That makes no sense.
Is Josh Allen elite?....Has made 2 championship games I think , He looks elite, but cant get by KC

Is Lamar Jackson elite? same 2 champ games

Is Jared Golf elite?....... been to a SB with rams and champ game with det

Is Trevor Lawrence elite? .....similar to dak but he is young and they are thinking he will get better and so will team

Is Justin Herbert elite?.....similar to dak only has made playoffs once and one and done like dak he has been stuck with bad coaching

Is Jalen Hurts elite?........SB app

So 4 of these guys have done something in playoffs 2 have been to a SB. Not really elite but they have done something in playoffs.
 

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Is Josh Allen elite?....Has made 2 championship games I think , He looks elite, but cant get by KC

Is Lamar Jackson elite? same 2 champ games

Is Jared Golf elite?....... been to a SB with rams and champ game with det

Is Trevor Lawrence elite? .....similar to dak but he is young and they are thinking he will get better and so will team

Is Justin Herbert elite?.....similar to dak only has made playoffs once and one and done like dak he has been stuck with bad coaching

Is Jalen Hurts elite?........SB app

So 4 of these guys have done something in playoffs 2 have been to a SB. Not really elite but they have done something in playoffs.
Josh Allen's six seasons in Buffalo___
Bills in playoffs five times;
4-1 in wildcard round
1-2 in divisional round
0-1 in conference championship
Two playoff losses to KC, one each to HOU and. CIN
 

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Bro it's heading that way are you not watching or you dint see the trend!? What has Trevor Lawrence done yet he's making the most out of all QBs.....stop and even if he only gets 57 or 58 is it that far from 60 to make a difference in your mind....like seriously
$5 million a year is pretty steep. You are saying that the team will see Dak as worth $20 million to $25 million more than Lawrence over the life of the contract. That is quite a difference. Lawrence only got the same as what Burrow got last year, which can simply be chalked up to inflation. Dak would be breaking new ground, which I do think he'll do because of inflation, but not to the tune of $20 million to $25 million more. $57 million, which I do think is possible, is $12 million to $15 million less than $60 million over the life of the contract. In our free agent world that's 6 to 7 free agents.

If we wait until after a few more QB contracts, though, it might get to $60 million.
 

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Dak’s on record saying he’s not out to be the highest paid QB. Yet no one acknowledges that.
It's hard to say exactly what that means, though. If he feels he should be paid what he's worth, then wouldn't he believe he's worth more than Lawrence. There are ways to not be the highest-paid by setting up your contract to where your average per year is the highest but your actual salary is not. That's where players often "compromise" to bring cap relief to the team. They sign longer-term deals, like Mahomes did, that still richly reward them but allow the team to spread out the hit.
 

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To be clear here TL is a national championship winning QB that is 24. Thought of as one of the best QB prospects in years. Our guy is 31 and has demonstrated expertise in choking during big games. To suggest Dak should get paid anywhere near this is pure stupidity.
This isn't college
 

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It's hard to say exactly what that means, though. If he feels he should be paid what he's worth, then wouldn't he believe he's worth more than Lawrence. There are ways to not be the highest-paid by setting up your contract to where your average per year is the highest but your actual salary is not. That's where players often "compromise" to bring cap relief to the team. They sign longer-term deals, like Mahomes did, that still richly reward them but allow the team to spread out the hit.
Yeah, he can say anything, but we really don’t know what his intentions are. I hope it’s a team friendly deal.
 

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Yeah, he can say anything, but we really don’t know what his intentions are. I hope it’s a team friendly deal.
His intention is probably sign a deal before the season starts putting him right at where the highest paid quarterbacks are and if such a deal is not forthcoming become a free agent in March and sign the offer he likes the most. Either way, Dak Prescott is going to be paid a lot of money to play for an NFL team in 2025.
 

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Yeah, he can say anything, but we really don’t know what his intentions are. I hope it’s a team friendly deal.
What's going to matter is the length. Last time, Dak sought a shorter-term deal, which makes it tougher to pay less early and move money around. However, the team has added multiple void years to it to push hits back. In order to absorb the money in those void years and keep the contract low, the team needs a real long-term deal. The only way for a player to agree to that, though, is with lots and lots of the money guaranteed. That's kind of what KC did with Mahomes. For example, in 2025, Mahomes has a $32 million roster bonus, but because of the length of his contract, the team will be able to prorate it to bring down his $66 million cap hit. Mahomes still gets his money and technically will be the highest-paid QB in the league, but his hit comes down by more than $20 million. The next year, though, they will have to renegotiate the deal because his base is $45 million and his cap hit already $66 million without the prorated bonus. May be too late in his career to do a similar deal with Dak, but it would have been nice if we had done something like that the first time.

Hopefully, this one will be at least five but if he wants to be team-friendly, seven would be better. Of course, with void years now regularly added to contracts, I'm not sure it's as big of a deal. Teams know with what QBs are getting paid that they are going to take a big hit when those contracts eventually end. The hope is that by then, you've got a player on a rookie contract replacing them.
 

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What's going to matter is the length. Last time, Dak sought a shorter-term deal, which makes it tougher to pay less early and move money around. However, the team has added multiple void years to it to push hits back. In order to absorb the money in those void years and keep the contract low, the team needs a real long-term deal. The only way for a player to agree to that, though, is with lots and lots of the money guaranteed. That's kind of what KC did with Mahomes. For example, in 2025, Mahomes has a $32 million roster bonus, but because of the length of his contract, the team will be able to prorate it to bring down his $66 million cap hit. Mahomes still gets his money and technically will be the highest-paid QB in the league, but his hit comes down by more than $20 million. The next year, though, they will have to renegotiate the deal because his base is $45 million and his cap hit already $66 million without the prorated bonus. May be too late in his career to do a similar deal with Dak, but it would have been nice if we had done something like that the first time.

Hopefully, this one will be at least five but if he wants to be team-friendly, seven would be better. Of course, with void years now regularly added to contracts, I'm not sure it's as big of a deal. Teams know with what QBs are getting paid that they are going to take a big hit when those contracts eventually end. The hope is that by then, you've got a player on a rookie contract replacing them.
Great points all. The Jones definitely have been overthinking these star player contracts. They tried to play it smart, but ended up where we are now with Dak and Cee Dee. Cee Dee’s situation is more normal and it will depend on the details of the contract to see if they had to over pay.
 

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Is Josh Allen elite?....Has made 2 championship games I think , He looks elite, but cant get by KC

Is Lamar Jackson elite? same 2 champ games

Is Jared Golf elite?....... been to a SB with rams and champ game with det

Is Trevor Lawrence elite? .....similar to dak but he is young and they are thinking he will get better and so will team

Is Justin Herbert elite?.....similar to dak only has made playoffs once and one and done like dak he has been stuck with bad coaching

Is Jalen Hurts elite?........SB app

So 4 of these guys have done something in playoffs 2 have been to a SB. Not really elite but they have done something in playoffs.
Josh Allen has made 1 championship game, not 2...................his career playoff record is 5-4

Lamer Jackson has also been to just 1 Championship game, not 2............his career playoff record is 2-4

Jared Golf did go to the SB with Rams and to a championship game with the Lions, lost both...............his career playoff record is 4-4

Trevor Lawrence has won exactly one single playoff game and it was thanks to his defense, he threw 4 picks in that comeback win...........career playoff record is 1-1

Justin Herbert has played in just 1 single playoff game, and he lost it...............his career playoff record is 0-1

Jalen Hurts did go to the SB in 2022, but outside of that one season he has never won any other playoff games............career playoff record is 2-3

So, of these 6 QBs listed that have all signed mega deals, not one has a SB ring, only two have been to a SB and for one it was with another team than his current one, and all the others combined have a grand total of 2 conference championship game appearances, and both were losses. In fact, of the six QBs listed, Dak has the same number of playoff wins, or more, than 4 of those six. Only Josh Allen and Jared Golf have more than 2 playoff wins, the same number as Dak. So, its fairly obvious that Dak's market value is similar to all of these guys listed.
 

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For those that want a good idea as to why teams pay first round QBs after 3 years, this guy explains it within the first 2 minutes of the video.

 

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For those that want a good idea as to why teams pay first round QBs after 3 years, this guy explains it within the first 2 minutes of the video.


Yep. Lawrence for under $40 million a season over 7 years is a win.
 

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It isn’t but the guy is 24, has a world of talent, and 2 years ago was one of the best QBs in the game.

You guys know he plays for Jacksonville right? One of the worst franchises in the NFL.
So you saying that with all this talent he still needs help? Sounds right for every Qb
 

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Josh Allen has made 1 championship game, not 2...................his career playoff record is 5-4

Lamer Jackson has also been to just 1 Championship game, not 2............his career playoff record is 2-4

Jared Golf did go to the SB with Rams and to a championship game with the Lions, lost both...............his career playoff record is 4-4

Trevor Lawrence has won exactly one single playoff game and it was thanks to his defense, he threw 4 picks in that comeback win...........career playoff record is 1-1

Justin Herbert has played in just 1 single playoff game, and he lost it...............his career playoff record is 0-1

Jalen Hurts did go to the SB in 2022, but outside of that one season he has never won any other playoff games............career playoff record is 2-3

So, of these 6 QBs listed that have all signed mega deals, not one has a SB ring, only two have been to a SB and for one it was with another team than his current one, and all the others combined have a grand total of 2 conference championship game appearances, and both were losses. In fact, of the six QBs listed, Dak has the same number of playoff wins, or more, than 4 of those six. Only Josh Allen and Jared Golf have more than 2 playoff wins, the same number as Dak. So, its fairly obvious that Dak's market value is similar to all of these guys listed.
Well Dak has not won a div game yet, never been to a champ game or SB. So that makes his value a little lower.
Dak has been in league for 8 years, so that has to be factored in too.
Josh has to get by KC and mahomes in playoffs, dak doesnt. Trevor only been in league for 4 years.

Lamar has been a loser in playoffs, but he too has to get by KC.
Goff did good last year, just couldnt get by a strong SF team.

As for value of a QB you should look at more than playoff wins/records.

Daks true value is in how jerry and other gm's think of his potential.

If jerry decided to let him walk, and no other gms wanted him at 55 + then his value would drop below that.
The gm's and owners control the value on these players not us.
 

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Is Josh Allen elite?....Has made 2 championship games I think , He looks elite, but cant get by KC

Is Lamar Jackson elite? same 2 champ games

Is Jared Golf elite?....... been to a SB with rams and champ game with det

Is Trevor Lawrence elite? .....similar to dak but he is young and they are thinking he will get better and so will team

Is Justin Herbert elite?.....similar to dak only has made playoffs once and one and done like dak he has been stuck with bad coaching

Is Jalen Hurts elite?........SB app

So 4 of these guys have done something in playoffs 2 have been to a SB. Not really elite but they have done something in playoffs.
Allen is elite
as for the chiefs, recall that he had one of the best playoff performances in NFL history and still lost OT tothe Chiefs after losing a coin toss.

He was a bit sloppy at times last year though

Goff for sure isnot elite. Hes like Cousins
Even a guy like Stafford—at his advanced age—has a ceiling higher than Goff….or many others

Lawrence isnt either, but his (and Herbert’s) ceiling is very high

guys like Goff, Dak, Cousins….can be very good but have limited ceilings
 
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Allen is elite
as for the chiefs, recall that he had one of the best playoff performances in NFL history and still lost OT tothe Chiefs after losing a coin toss.

He was a bit sloppy at times last year though

Goff for sure isnot elite. Hes like Cousins
Even a guy like Stafford—at his advanced age—has a ceiling higher than Goff….or many others

Lawrence isnt either, but his (and Herbert’s) ceiling is very high

guys like Goff, Dak, Cousins….can be very good but have limited ceilings
Allen has been 'a bit sloppy at times' since he entered the league.
He's had the most turnovers among quarterbacks since 2018.
Tied for 3rd in fumbles lost (FL), 1st in interceptions thrown (INT)

Quarterback___games played- TOV / FL / INT
Allen___94- 102 / 24 / 78
Goff____95- 96 / 28 / 68
Mayfield__89- 90 / 16 / 74
Carr______97- 89 / 26 / 63
Cousins___88- 79 / 24 / 55
Prescott___82- 77 / 20 / 57
Stafford ___81- 75 / 13 / 62
Mahomes__95- 75 / 13 / 62

Allen has committed close to 30 more turnovers than Mahomes in one less game.
 
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