Trey Lance was traded for a 4th, Dak was drafted in the 4th

[Cowboyny]

Trey Lance was graded as a 1st round talent by the organization that knows QBs,

Dak would've never been drafted if he wasn't a duel threat in college.

They actually gave him a 2nd rd grade.

 

[big dog cowboy]

They didn't feel like they owed anything to Lance. Thought they had better. Moved on.

Here we are, 8 years on with a loser at QB we're getting ready to extend for a few more years.

This is exactly right. It's a business. Can't be afraid to hurt someone's feelings.

 

[Pompey-Cowboy]

Trey Lance hasn't been giving a real chance. He's still unknown at this point.

Why does it seem like you hope he fails?

He had time to prove himself in San Francisco and didn't. I am no Dak fan but Lance is not the answer.

 

[acr731]

He had time to prove himself in San Francisco and didn't. I am no Dak fan but Lance is not the answer.

He did? How is that possible with only 4 starts and 8 appearances in his short career? Dak is the one who has had plenty of time to prove himself. Dak is the reason why these conversations are even taking place.

 

[Flamma]

It says that they tried to upgrade the most important position in sports and it didn't work out for em. Regardless of who they have at QB they are going to dog walk the Cowboys and make deep runs it seems.

Do you prefer Jerry's business as usual approach more?

I would love to see Trey Lance start for the Cowboys next year. This way we'll be up for the #1 pick overall.

 

[Adreme]

I like that though.

They didn't feel like they owed anything to Lance. Thought they had better. Moved on.

Here we are, 8 years on with a loser at QB we're getting ready to extend for a few more years.

They are either a great organization who used the 3rd pick in the draft on a guy, which would imply he is a great player, but dumping him for scraps does not imply that said QB is awful. Trey Lance is not good. If he were a top 10-15 QB they might be willing to move off of Dak for the cheaper option but he is not that good. He is not on Dak's level. He has not shown he is on Cooper Rush's level yet. Lance has already been shown to not be on Sam Darnold's level.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He had time to prove himself in San Francisco and didn't. I am no Dak fan but Lance is not the answer.

We might want to research some young players shipped off to other teams and did well....before so surely proclaiming his doom.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

They are either a great organization who used the 3rd pick in the draft on a guy, which would imply he is a great player, but dumping him for scraps does not imply that said QB is awful. Trey Lance is not good. If he were a top 10-15 QB they might be willing to move off of Dak for the cheaper option but he is not that good. He is not on Dak's level. He has not shown he is on Cooper Rush's level yet. Lance has already been shown to not be on Sam Darnold's level.

Cooper Rush level? So 5-1 type stuff and playing smart? I'm down.

And the last time the Cowboys played against Sam Darnold he had mono and dog walked us while Dak played like crap.

 

[Adreme]

He did? How is that possible with only 4 starts and 8 appearances in his short career? Dak is the one who has had plenty of time to prove himself. Dak is the reason why these conversations are even taking place.

And if the only time he showed up was on Sunday's during the regular season that would make sense. They saw every throw he made in practice. We all saw him play in the preseason. Seeing all of that they would rather have had Sam Darnold. That is possibly the largest indictment of any player.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

We might want to research some young players shipped off to other teams and did well....before so surely proclaiming his doom.

Call it want it is.

They want Lance to fail.

 

[Adreme]

Cooper Rush level? So 5-1 type stuff and playing smart? I'm down.

And the last time the Cowboys played against Sam Darnold he had mono and dog walked us while Dak played like crap.

Wins are not and never have been a QB stat. If they were Jimmy G would be a top 5 NFL QB.

As for playing smart the very first bit of good competition he played he threw 3 INTs sub 50% completion and looked completely outclassed and the offense only put up 17. Interestingly enough on the rematch with Dak the offense put up 40 with Dak completing 75% of his passes. Always nice to have an apples to apples comparison like that.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Wins are not and never have been a QB stat. If they were Jimmy G would be a top 5 NFL QB.

As for playing smart the very first bit of good competition he played he threw 3 INTs sub 50% completion and looked completely outclassed and the offense only put up 17. Interestingly enough on the rematch with Dak the offense put up 40 with Dak completing 75% of his passes. Always nice to have an apples to apples comparison like that.

Seems like you hope Lance fails and are comfortable with Dak.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Trey Lance was graded as a 1st round talent by the organization that knows QBs,

Dak would've never been drafted if he wasn't a duel threat in college.

They know QBs!!?? How?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If they know QB's, then they really blew that pick. And a lot of good draft picks also.

If they knew QBs they wouldn't let Purdy stay on draft board until the very last pick of the draft. If they knew QBs they would let Purdy be the 3rd step g QB on the roster specially after they saw him in practice. Luck is a wonderful thing

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He did? How is that possible with only 4 starts and 8 appearances in his short career? Dak is the one who has had plenty of time to prove himself. Dak is the reason why these conversations are even taking place.

Obviously Lance had a great team around him. In those starts he showed nothing. Dak took over a team and went 13-3.

Lance showed he wasn't ready and over drafted. Perhaps time on the bench and some training will be good for him.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Cooper Rush level? So 5-1 type stuff and playing smart? I'm down.

And the last time the Cowboys played against Sam Darnold he had mono and dog walked us while Dak played like crap.

Cooper Rush? The same guy who led the 22nd ranked offense? Same guy who lost when a team.scored more than 20 points.... give me a defense than can keep teams to 13 poi ts a game and I will show you a championship team regardless of QB.

Your football knowledge is quite limited!

 

[Hadenough]

The odds of Trey Lance having the same success Dak has had is extremely slim and none. When Dak got his opportunity he made the most of it. Lance was given two opportunities in San Francisco. With his first opportunity, he didn’t look that great and ended up getting injured. With his second opportunity, he ended up the 49ers third QB, which resulted in him being traded.

Yep! I look at Trey Lance as someone else's trash. If he was any good Shanahan never would of let him go. I think Darnold is someone that Dallas should of brought in to compete with Dak. He showed in Carolina he had some good ability but he's always been on bad teams. Jerry got fleeced trading a 4th for Lance.

 

[Adreme]

Seems like you hope Lance fails and are comfortable with Dak.

I do not hope Lance fails. I expect Lance to fail based on what you said plus the other thing that was unsaid. As you pointed out a great organization looked at him and said thought they were better off with the last pick in the draft and Sam Darnold. Now how good Purdy is is a debatable point but at this point we know how good Darnold is, or in this case is not. That tells the level that Lance is at now, or at least was at the start of the season. Combine that with the fact that as of next season it will have been 5 years since Lance played more than 2 full games at any level. The last time he will have played meaningful minutes is the one year of college tape on him before he sat out the last year of his college career. So he has to overcome 2 separate issues: having barely played football in half a decade and having to elevate himself from a quarterback who is not in the top 50 to being in the top 10-15. Both of those are very rare things to overcome individually but would be incredibly unlikely to see happen in tandem. Would it be fun to see happen? Sure, but it is incredibly unlikely.

Meanwhile if a top 10-15 QB appears in FA, or if they Cowboys are drafting in the top 5 and can take a shot at one, then I would not mind going for it but barring that then yes I am satisfied having someone for whom every offseason the professional GMs, Scouts, and Coaches all vote as top 10-15.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Cooper Rush? The same guy who led the 22nd ranked offense? Same guy who lost when a team.scored more than 20 points.... give me a defense than can keep teams to 13 poi ts a game and I will show you a championship team regardless of QB.

Your football knowledge is quite limited!

We know you hate Rush for winning and hope Lance fails.

You don't have to constantly remind us, Dak fan.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I do not hope Lance fails. I expect Lance to fail based on what you said plus the other thing that was unsaid. As you pointed out a great organization looked at him and said thought they were better off with the last pick in the draft and Sam Darnold. Now how good Purdy is is a debatable point but at this point we know how good Darnold is, or in this case is not. That tells the level that Lance is at now, or at least was at the start of the season. Combine that with the fact that as of next season it will have been 5 years since Lance played more than 2 full games at any level. The last time he will have played meaningful minutes is the one year of college tape on him before he sat out the last year of his college career. So he has to overcome 2 separate issues: having barely played football in half a decade and having to elevate himself from a quarterback who is not in the top 50 to being in the top 10-15. Both of those are very rare things to overcome individually but would be incredibly unlikely to see happen in tandem. Would it be fun to see happen? Sure, but it is incredibly unlikely.

Meanwhile if a top 10-15 QB appears in FA, or if they Cowboys are drafting in the top 5 and can take a shot at one, then I would not mind going for it but barring that then yes I am satisfied having someone for whom every offseason the professional GMs, Scouts, and Coaches all vote as top 10-15.

You're satisfied with a loser?

I remember when Cowboys fans had pride and expected better.