Trey Williams Review

[Zimmy Lives]

He reminds (from the video clips) me a little of Joe Morris of the Giants.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

Seems like he's got the right attitude and very humble.

 

[xwalker]

I will have to go back and look again, but if his pass blocking looked good to you, I am a little shocked. If I was to point out one red flag for a guy suited to be a third down back, it would be his atrocious blitz pickup and pass blocking. He gets absolutely run over when expected to sustain a block. He has some success at faking the block and delaying into the flat, but this kid will get your QB killed if you expect him to hold an NFL LB for any matter of time.

He does have great lateral movement and one of the best jump cuts you will ever see, however he will also run to contact or run for the sideline quite often. He is another guy that doesn't seem to have a full control of his own gears. He wants to go 100 miles an hour all the time and it will get him into trouble. As par with guys who come from spread attacks, he is not great following blockers, but is more adept at running around or behind them, not waiting on them. He can be absolutely deadly as a swing back matched up with a linebacker in the flat. It takes him no time at all to reach top speed and a single person generally won't get a clean enough shot to take him down. That said, however, if he doesn't have the wiggle room, he is prone to going down quite easily and almost seems to just fall down at times. If you were furious with Randle being "arm tackled" this kid will break your heart.

Ironically enough, if I was going to compare this kid to anyone in the NFL off of the small NFL sample and college footage I saw, it would be Randle. If they trust this kid enough to motion him out wide, he is capable of housing it every time he touches it.

I absolutely guarantee you, this is a Linehan signing. He spent a lot of time inputting those schemes and plays for Dunbar (I say schemes because if you go back and watch, the blocking is different for many of the plays they ran to Dunbar). He wants someone who he can utilize in the same role. This could also mean Michael doesn't get much more run.

Broaddus agrees with me on this pass blocking:

While with Washington, he was used as a wide receiver in the pass game scheme-wise. His best work was over the middle on check downs and screens. He will adjust to the ball, secure then get up the field. I was most impressed with his ability to pass protect despite his height. There were situations where his coaches asked him to block defensive ends and big 3-4 outside linebackers. He would step up and play square.

He has special teams value as a kickoff return man. He was one of the best in the nation while at Texas A&M averaging over 25 yards a return. Very similar player to what they had with Lance Dunbar in the things he can do offensively but better pass blocker.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...rb-williams-shows-surprising-physicality-size

 

[xwalker]

Was Williams on the 53 to start the season with Washington? If Dunbar was so integral to our offense before he went down, I don't get why Williams wasn't signed sooner. I get that the release of Randle facilitates this signing, but wouldn't it have made more sense to have picked him up when Rod Smith was signed?

It seems they've been trying to replace Randle for awhile now. The signing of C-Mike and then Rod Smith in retrospect seems as if they expected something to happen with Randle as some point.

It is curious process on how they made decisions about these types of players. There are 320 practice squad players to review plus they were obviously reviewing players on 53 man rosters because they traded for C-Mike and Brice Butler. They've probably been reviewing players for most or all positions. They picked up the DL from KC a few weeks ago. I would think that they considered some punt returners, receivers, maybe Right Tackles, etc..

The thing to keep in mind is that it's a group decision I assume with the Garrett, McClay, etc.. It would be interesting to know what causes them to sign a specific player at a specific time considering the large pool of players including the 320 on practice squads that are options.

I'm still wondering why they've kept the QB Moore on the 53. I expected him to be bumped to the practice squad in favor of some other position player.

 

[texbumthelife]

Broaddus agrees with me on this pass blocking:

While with Washington, he was used as a wide receiver in the pass game scheme-wise. His best work was over the middle on check downs and screens. He will adjust to the ball, secure then get up the field. I was most impressed with his ability to pass protect despite his height. There were situations where his coaches asked him to block defensive ends and big 3-4 outside linebackers. He would step up and play square.

He has special teams value as a kickoff return man. He was one of the best in the nation while at Texas A&M averaging over 25 yards a return. Very similar player to what they had with Lance Dunbar in the things he can do offensively but better pass blocker.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...rb-williams-shows-surprising-physicality-size

Interesting. Do you have any clips that you cited in particular? Maybe he figured it out in the NFL, because I remember him getting run over in blitz pick-up at TAM.

 

[texbumthelife]

It seems they've been trying to replace Randle for awhile now. The signing of C-Mike and then Rod Smith in retrospect seems as if they expected something to happen with Randle as some point.

It is curious process on how they made decisions about these types of players. There are 320 practice squad players to review plus they were obviously reviewing players on 53 man rosters because they traded for C-Mike and Brice Butler. They've probably been reviewing players for most or all positions. They picked up the DL from KC a few weeks ago. I would think that they considered some punt returners, receivers, maybe Right Tackles, etc..

The thing to keep in mind is that it's a group decision I assume with the Garrett, McClay, etc.. It would be interesting to know what causes them to sign a specific player at a specific time considering the large pool of players including the 320 on practice squads that are options.

I'm still wondering why they've kept the QB Moore on the 53. I expected him to be bumped to the practice squad in favor of some other position player.

I think Trey Williams has Linehan written all over him. Obviously Garrett has final say, but I think this is specifically to give Linehan a tool he spent a lot of time trying to incorporate this off season.

It also looks like the Cowboys go after native Texans frequently when reviewing these free agents. At least we don't lock onto Arkansas players anymore.

 

[xwalker]

Interesting. Do you have any clips that you cited in particular? Maybe he figured it out in the NFL, because I remember him getting run over in blitz pick-up at TAM.

He had several pass pro opportunities in the preseason relative to the number of snaps he played.

I originally posted that it appears pass pro would be an issue based on his scouting report from college; however, in the preseason he looked good doing it. It's hard to get a perfect view on some of them because the broadcast view cuts away at times and there is no All-22 of the preseason games.

 

[xwalker]

I think Trey Williams has Linehan written all over him. Obviously Garrett has final say, but I think this is specifically to give Linehan a tool he spent a lot of time trying to incorporate this off season.

It also looks like the Cowboys go after native Texans frequently when reviewing these free agents. At least we don't lock onto Arkansas players anymore.

Yes, as another poster asked, I'm not sure why they didn't sign him right after Dunbar was injured. It's hard to know how long it will take a rookie to get up to speed on the scheme. Scheme knowledge/intelligence seemed to be one of the things that Garrett loved about Dunbar because he praised him often.

They probably thought C-Mike could do some of those things with his physical ability, but he has dropped 2 of 3 passes thrown to him. I guess it's hard to concentrate on a 3 yard pass when you're think about your HOF induction.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I think Trey Williams has Linehan written all over him. Obviously Garrett has final say, but I think this is specifically to give Linehan a tool he spent a lot of time trying to incorporate this off season.

It also looks like the Cowboys go after native Texans frequently when reviewing these free agents. At least we don't lock onto Arkansas players anymore.

Yeah, all those Arkansas players we picked up since Jerry has owned the team. We drafted what....one of them? We have had very few Razorbacks on this team and very few in camp that I can recall. But continue to perpetuate the myth.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Interesting. Do you have any clips that you cited in particular? Maybe he figured it out in the NFL, because I remember him getting run over in blitz pick-up at TAM.

What's interesting is you saying he is no good at it when you didn't view any of the Commanders preseason apparently, which the original poster actually did.

 

[Idgit]

..I'm still wondering why they've kept the QB Moore on the 53. I expected him to be bumped to the practice squad in favor of some other position player.

I've been curious about that, too. It's been expensive to keep him on the 53 when we need help at positions where help off the street is potentially available (STs).

If we keep him on the 53 after Tony's back and we cut Weeden/Cassel, it tells me Linehan thinks he's actually got developmental potential and probably at least a shot to be more than a QB2. Probably a guy they think could push a 1-3rd round pick in camp at some point the way Tony pushed Henson.

Only hopefully with a 1-3rd round pick who's actually good.

 

[xwalker]

I've been curious about that, too. It's been expensive to keep him on the 53 when we need help at positions where help off the street is potentially available (STs).

If we keep him on the 53 after Tony's back and we cut Weeden/Cassel, it tells me Linehan thinks he's actually got developmental potential and probably at least a shot to be more than a QB2. Probably a guy they think could push a 1-3rd round pick in camp at some point the way Tony pushed Henson.

Only hopefully with a 1-3rd round pick who's actually good.

It just seems that if nobody claimed him from the PS before and he has not taking 1 snap in a real game since being on the 53, I don't know why anybody would claim him now.

This is his 4th year with Linehan. It seems like he probably knows the scheme better than Weed or Cassel and it's not like he is going to get bigger or develop a stronger arm. It just seems like he would either have gotten a chance to play or wouldn't be on the 53 at all. Puzzling...

 

[Idgit]

It just seems that if nobody claimed him from the PS before and he has not taking 1 snap in a real game since being on the 53, I don't know why anybody would claim him now.

This is his 4th year with Linehan. It seems like he probably knows the scheme better than Weed or Cassel and it's not like he is going to get bigger or develop a stronger arm. It just seems like he would either have gotten a chance to play or wouldn't be on the 53 at all. Puzzling...

My guess is that Linehan likes him and Garrett is too conservative to give him a chance. But that both like him enough to not want to risk losing him to another team, however unlikely (there's really no other reason to keep a QB3 on the roster if you're not going to play him). Which means they want to see what he's got in camp next year.

Maybe the ceiling for him is just 'solid long-term backup QB' once he gets some seasoning. I think that's an expensive use of a roster spot, though. So I'm guessing they think this guy has a shot somewhere down the road.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

It also probably can't hurt that he was familiarized with Callahan's ZBS. Probably less steep learning curve working with our OL.

 

[texbumthelife]

What's interesting is you saying he is no good at it when you didn't view any of the Commanders preseason apparently, which the original poster actually did.

I'm not exactly sure why you're chastising me. I even intimated I may be wrong. Even X said he thought it would be a problem based on his college tape. I asked for the clips so I could make a more educated statement. Why is that a negative thing? What about that worked you into such a lather you had to make a snarky reply that brought nothing to the thread?

 

[texbumthelife]

Yeah, all those Arkansas players we picked up since Jerry has owned the team. We drafted what....one of them? We have had very few Razorbacks on this team and very few in camp that I can recall. But continue to perpetuate the myth.

It was sarcasm... Are you just out to bust my balls for no reason? Because you jumped me in this thread, clearly not even understanding my posts, and brought nothing of substance.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

It was sarcasm... Are you just out to bust my balls for no reason? Because you jumped me in this thread, clearly not even understanding my posts, and brought nothing of substance.

Really hard to believe that was sarcasm, the comment about Tre being a Linnehan pick doesn't seem to be sarcastic at all. As for taking shots at you, I just think it is kind of funny that you are "taking shots" at someone's post that actually reviewed the information and gave an opinion.

No big deal....it's a message board. People disagree.

 

[texbumthelife]

Really hard to believe that was sarcasm, the comment about Tre being a Linnehan pick doesn't seem to be sarcastic at all. As for taking shots at you, I just think it is kind of funny that you are "taking shots" at someone's post that actually reviewed the information and gave an opinion.

No big deal....it's a message board. People disagree.

So for any bit of a post to be sarcastic, the entire post has to be?

Your ire is completely misplaced. I wasn't taking a shot. I was genuinely caught of guard and thought it was interesting. XWalker and I have X's and O's conversations quite frequently and even when we disagree, I am always open to his opinion and complimentary of his analysis. Hence, "interesting."

I reviewed his college footage and couldn't find his preseason footage. That's why I asked for it, so I could review it. Seems like the logical and analytical approach to the situation to me.

It's ridiculous I have to defend myself because you got butt hurt over a post you so clearly didn't even understand correctly. It's no wonder this forum has turned into more of a back and forth shouting match than a place for real knowledge and information to be shared.

 

[dallasdave]

Are you trying to say the Commanders had a better back on their practice squad than one of our beloved three headed monster or is that a copy and paste error?

 

[xwalker]

Are you trying to say the Commanders had a better back on their practice squad than one of our beloved three headed monster or is that a copy and paste error?

You should be an expert on the Skins roster considering you appear to be a Skins fan.