Trotter just said the gameplan[on DNL in Philly]

[Frosty]

Good Grief. People will defend owens if he stabs OJ simpson next week.

is this defending TO.

Bledsoe is a veteran, IMO its a rookie mistake to give up a game by a interception. It was what 2nd down and goal from with in the 5, A veteran would/should of known you have two more downs, if its not there, its not there, don't force it. Bledsoe gave the game away by forcing a throw on 2nd Down with the game on the line, Dejavu Seatle.

 

[Smashmouth24]

Fair point. I'm going from memory and that is that Owens had beaten his man, but I don't know if the safety could have made a play had Bledsoe gotten it where it was supposed to go. On the second one I think you would agree that Owens was open and it should have been a TD.

On the second play it appeared Owens was running into zone coverage and slowed down in an open area expecting a pass that Bledsoe wasn't ready to throw. I agree that if Drew had not then thrown the ball at the same moment T.O. decided to vacate the area and instead attempt a more difficult pass to the corner of the EZ that it could have been a TD. I think T.O. did what he should have, and Drew just wasn't ready with the ball.

 

[Blue&Silver]

So first off if Philly's game plan was to take away TO, they were not successful. Dallas just didn't execute it well enough as a team to make Philly pay.

They took our passing game away and there's no way to sugar coat it.

Secondly, if they are paying that much attention to one guy then we should be able to do other things like run the ball, throw to Glenn, Witten, Fasano.

They doubled Glenn also. Sometimes they left Terrell Owens single cover and doubled Glenn. Sometimes they singled both players and blitzed. They mixed things up to perfection and we didn't have any answers.

As you saw we were effective running the ball. They were fine with giving up the run. Their main concern was stopping the big plays passing.

I'd say that plan was a success.

 

[CalCBFan]

The players themselves (I just listened to some of the locker-room interviews) were talking about all the movement of players by Philly. Howard came from all over the field. Isn't this what Ware was supposed to do for our D? The fact that we have NO inovation on O or D speaks volumes about BP. If there is ANY doubt that BP was completely outcoached yesterday by Andy Reid, you didn't watch the game. It was obvious from the start.

Several of their key players were banged-up (Stallworth, Westbrook, some of the 2ndary) and yet they showed us up. BPs response was to say Pat Watkins (an undrafted FA ROOKIE!) "Better pick it up". Yet when coaches from practically the entire league publically say that all you have to do is bring pressure on Bledsoe and he will make mistakes, BP says the pressure would make any QB wince. Our pressure didn't make McNabb wince enough to get us a win. Last year when Flozell went down, OUR SEASON ENDED for all practical purposes. Yet a guy named Hank Basket looked like Joey Galloway against us. Bp can't put Hurd or Rector in the game because they are too inexperienced.

My question is WHERE IS THE COACHING?!?!?!?! Isn't it the coaches job to get the players ready to play? The contenders have coaches that CAN put a rookie into the game who CAN make plays. Isn't it the coaches job to make half-time adjustments? Andy Reid is world-class in this area, BP can't do it at all.

I just don't get the idea of his being a "genius" and I am tired of hearing about his past success. He has one SB to his CREDIT. The 2nd one was because a Cundiff-like kicker missed a chip-shot FG. I geve BP credit Saturday for getting RW to play coverages better. After watching the angle he took on that go-ahead Eagle TD, I'll admit I was completely wrong.

I have no confidence this team can beat the Texans. If we do I'll be glad, but when you can't win the tough games on the road, yo9u aren't going anywhere except home for New Year's...

 

[iceberg]

Good Grief. People will defend owens if he stabs OJ simpson next week.

and if he farts people will attack him for noxious fumes.

hey - i HATE the fact i'm defending TO but the only thing that makes me madder than arrogance is stupidity. making up stuff to be mad at TO over is stupid.

 

[TEK2000]

What truly cost us the game was the fact that we stopped feeing the ball to JuliusJones and Marion Barber III. Jones was OWNING the Philly D yesterday! The Eagles would score and the offense went into panic mode and started lining up in empty sets. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID! On the firstTD drive we had the most balanced and effective scroring drive that I have seen from this team all year. We spotted Philly ten and came back and rammed it right down their throats. At that point I thought, "Oh yeah baby, all day long". Lo and behold, we never even ATTEMPTED that type of balance on a drive again. I was sure that JJ was going to have another game like he had last year at Carolina. The kid was just bustin it hard, yet, we put the game in Bledsoe's hands for the majority of the game and got exactly what we asked for.

SS

You're exactly right.

The WORST thing the coaching staff did was not stick with running the ball. We had 4 drives where we started the drive running the ball twice and continued running the ball and passed sparingly.
2 of those drives wound up as TD's (both of these were in the 1st half), 1 wound up as a Field Goal and 1 we punted.

In 3 scoring drives we ran 33 plays... 20 of those were runs. We chewed up nearly 18 minutes of the clock in 3 drives by RUNNING THE BALL!

Oh.. and what else is interesting? In 33 plays on those 3 scoring drives where we consistently kept running the ball.... the defense had a total of 2 pressures.... NO SACKS!

They WERE NOT STOPPING OUR RUNNING GAME and yet we STOPPED RUNNING THE BALL in the 2nd half.

 

[dboyz]

They took our passing game away and there's no way to sugar coat it.



They doubled Glenn also. Sometimes they left Terrell Owens single cover and doubled Glenn. Sometimes they singled both players and blitzed. They mixed things up to perfection and we didn't have any answers.

As you saw we were effective running the ball. They were fine with giving up the run. Their main concern was stopping the big plays passing.

I'd say that plan was a success.

Let me try to make my point more clearly. I don't think Philly sold out to stop TO at all costs, otherwise he wouldn't have been open the times he was.

I think Trotter is doing a bit of gloating now and is oversimplifying what really happened. He won so he can gloat. Yes, they did defeat our passing game for a variety of reasons, not just because they double covered TO.

 

[skinsscalper]

Good Grief. People will defend owens if he stabs OJ simpson next week.

I would especially defend Owens if he stabs OJ Simpson next week. Owens is a drama queen, OJ is a murderer. Big difference there, Mr. Wizard.

SS

 

[dboyz]

On the second play it appeared Owens was running into zone coverage and slowed down in an open area expecting a pass that Bledsoe wasn't ready to throw. I agree that if Drew had not then thrown the ball at the same moment T.O. decided to vacate the area and instead attempt a more difficult pass to the corner of the EZ that it could have been a TD. I think T.O. did what he should have, and Drew just wasn't ready with the ball.

I'm going from memory here, and would look at the video if someone has it, but my thought upon watching it was that if Bledsoe had just thrown it when he did but up the field to the endzone, it could have been a touchdown. It was way underthrown as TO had to stop and come back.

 

[Stautner]

Thats exactly why may gameplan would have been to force it to TO from play #1 knowing that if he made a few plays, the crowd would quit and the eagles would fold. But no, Parcells doesn't think like that. I still can't understand how it never came up that the best way to win that game was to do everything in the teams power to ensure TO got a TD early. Line him up in the backfield and make a LB cover him, I don't care, just do something to get him that TD in the 1st quarter and we would have won going away!!!!!!

And what if we "forced it to TO" and threw some interceptions ......?

 

[Blue&Silver]

Let me try to make my point more clearly. I don't think Philly sold out to stop TO at all costs, otherwise he wouldn't have been open the times he was.

I think Trotter is doing a bit of gloating now and is oversimplifying what really happened. He won so he can gloat. Yes, they did defeat our passing game for a variety of reasons, not just because they double covered TO.

Yep. I agree. We all saw TO single covered several times. I don't even pay attention to what players say after a game.

What burns me up more than anything is they dictated what they let us do, and pulled it off. That's unacceptable.

 

[neosapien23]

I heard that trotter interview. He said the gameplan was too put pressure on Bledsoe but avoid hitting him too hard or hitting him in the knees. He stated, "As long as Bledsoe stayed in the game, we knew that TO, Glenn, and Witten were not getting their touches. I told the guys don't hit Bledsoe too hard. He is the best thing that can happen to the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach had to calm Walker down during the game. He nearly decapited Drew on his 3rd sack of the game. He got quite a talking to."

 

[Rack]

In no way was Owens going to beat us. We harped all week that on every play we will have a double team, regardless, he wasnt going to dance on us. We did this and only played 7 in the box the entire game, that was our posion we picked. We knew coming in this week that they would run on us; however, we had to take their best player away. I know Terry Glenn is good but he's no TEEO.

Q; Are you suprised they just left him out wide for you to easily take him away with a double team
A: Well, when TeeO was here Reid knew he was going to get a double team but that doesnt stop Andy, he moved TEEO all over the place were he couldnt be doubled. Yes, suprised, but not complaining.


This wasnt word for word but pretty darn close. He said this at 5pm eastern.

No way! That can't be it! It's cuz we didn't "use him properly".

 

[Blue&Silver]

And what if we "forced it to TO" and threw some interceptions ......?

We did force it to him. That cost 2 picks and Sheppard dropped a third.

 

[Rack]

We did force it to him. That cost 2 picks and Sheppard dropped a third.

The "almost" third wasn't cuz we forced it. It's cuz Bledsoe's arm got hit.


And on one of the other INT's Owens was open but Bledsoe underthrew him (or Owens ran the wrong route).

 

[Blue&Silver]

I heard that trotter interview. He said the gameplan was too put pressure on Bledsoe but avoid hitting him too hard or hitting him in the knees. He stated, "As long as Bledsoe stayed in the game, we knew that TO, Glenn, and Witten were not getting their touches. I told the guys don't hit Bledsoe too hard. He is the best thing that can happen to the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach had to calm Walker down during the game. He nearly decapited Drew on his 3rd sack of the game. He got quite a talking to."

That's not funny :bang2:

I'm not in the mood to give up on the season and start Romo. That's essentially what we're doing when that QB change takes place.

Its 1 game. No time to panic.

 

[skinsscalper]

I heard that trotter interview. He said the gameplan was too put pressure on Bledsoe but avoid hitting him too hard or hitting him in the knees. He stated, "As long as Bledsoe stayed in the game, we knew that TO, Glenn, and Witten were not getting their touches. I told the guys don't hit Bledsoe too hard. He is the best thing that can happen to the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach had to calm Walker down during the game. He nearly decapited Drew on his 3rd sack of the game. He got quite a talking to."

That right there, in a nutshell is what the rest of the league knows. The Eagles knew that the key to the game was keeping Bledsoe in the game. They knew damn well that Romo may very well have been the spark that the team needed to win the game. The key was to keep Bledsoe playing..........right into their hands.

SS

 

[Stautner]

We did force it to him. That cost 2 picks and Sheppard dropped a third.

But see - that fits with my point. We did those things even without trying to force feed TO regardless of double coverage. It might have been worse if we had committed to TO come what may.

 

[superpunk]

They gameplanned to take Owens out of the game? Are you cereal? And does this surprise anyone?

 

[Blue&Silver]

The "almost" third wasn't cuz we forced it. It's cuz Bledsoe's arm got hit.


And on one of the other INT's Owens was open but Bledsoe underthrew him (or Owens ran the wrong route).

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