Trotter just said the gameplan[on DNL in Philly]

[slick325]

Bledsoe has the same separation issues with Keyshawn last year early on. But Johnson proved to him that what looked like tight coverage was not as risky as it seemed..since KJ can out muscle a defender, and has flat out terrific hands.

It's a moot point, considering the way Bledsoe played yesterday, but Owens' broken finger and prior drops may have figured in Drew's decision not to try to thread a needle between two defenders. And the more times Bledsoe throws to Owens and gets picked off, the less confidence will be there.

I'd like to know what plays Steve Dennis was referring to when he said players told him TO took plays off and didn't run a proper route...and what Bill means when he implied today TO is not yet in total control of the playbook.

Looks like the Bledsoe-Owens failure to communicate is six of one and a half dozen of the other to me.

Very valid points. The timing and confidence has to be there but the only way to establish that confidence in T.O. is to attempt to get him the ball when doubled.

I did notice once or twice that T.O. was going half speed. Probably decoy routes. There is no excuse for that not even being frustrated. Terry Glenn was obviously frustrated as well and I didn't notice him taking a play or two off.

 

[slick325]

I heard that trotter interview. He said the gameplan was too put pressure on Bledsoe but avoid hitting him too hard or hitting him in the knees. He stated, "As long as Bledsoe stayed in the game, we knew that TO, Glenn, and Witten were not getting their touches. I told the guys don't hit Bledsoe too hard. He is the best thing that can happen to the Philadelphia Eagles. Coach had to calm Walker down during the game. He nearly decapited Drew on his 3rd sack of the game. He got quite a talking to."

WOW! I didn't hear that. That is very telling.

 

[CalCBFan]

I've been waiting for someone on this site to make this point. TO played for this team 1.5 years! Do we think they aren't going to remember his tendencies and weaknesses? They practiced AGAINST him for 1.5 years. Jerry Jones is the only one that thought signing TO would get us a win against Philly. This is why he should get a REAL GM that isn't necessarily a fan wearing rose colored glasses....

 

[skinsscalper]

I've been waiting for someone on this site to make this point. TO played for this team 1.5 years! Do we think they aren't going to remember his tendencies and weaknesses? They practiced AGAINST him for 1.5 years. Jerry Jones is the only one that thought signing TO would get us a win against Philly. This is why he should get a REAL GM that isn't necessarily a fan wearing rose colored glasses....

This OF ALL THINGS can't pinned on Jerry Jones. He did what he felt would give us an advantage in the passing game. The fact that Drew and T.O. aren't on the same page has NOTHING to do with Jerry Jones. As a matter of fact, lay the blame at Bledsoe and T.O. for not spending the extra time "figuring eachother out".

And, I'll go a little further and lay the blame more at Bledsoe's feet. Why? Keyshawn had the same complaints about Bledsoe that T.O. is having the past two years. This is two former Pro Bowl receivers with the same summary of the same player.

Jerry Jones' fault.........pshhhhhh. Puhlease.

SS

 

[theebs]

and if he farts people will attack him for noxious fumes.

hey - i HATE the fact i'm defending TO but the only thing that makes me madder than arrogance is stupidity. making up stuff to be mad at TO over is stupid.

Oh now I am stupid..

Whatever man...this is boring.

 

[ddh33]

To me the TO issue isn't about not throwing to him enough. It's more about not being to get him onvolved. Maybe it's the injuries or the lack of reps that has done it, but I'm surprised that the offense hasn't gotten the ball to TO more effectively...

I don't think it's for lack of effort. After all, Drew threw to him 13 times (?) last night. It's how come nothing more came of those 13 throws. Is Drew at fault? Was it the coaches? Was it the line? Was it TO?

But here's the thing, no matter who was at fault, it needs to get cleared up. TO is too valuable to get "just another guy" out there - even if teams are trying to take him away.

 

[SuspectCorner]

Good Grief. People will defend owens if he stabs OJ simpson next week.

maybe not everybody... but i know I would.

 

[Smashmouth24]

I'm going from memory here, and would look at the video if someone has it, but my thought upon watching it was that if Bledsoe had just thrown it when he did but up the field to the endzone, it could have been a touchdown. It was way underthrown as TO had to stop and come back.

My point was that Bledsoe threw it late to where T.O. slowed down at first expecting the ball. I don't know what could have happened other than I agree if Bledsoe waited, and had the time, he could have thrown a more difficult pass to the corner of the EZ and out of the reach of the safety. I don't know the play called, or the exact coverage, but I do know Bledsoe and T.O. appeared to have an easy first down there and Drew hesitated on the throw for reasons I'm not aware.

 

[iceberg]

Oh now I am stupid..

Whatever man...this is boring.

no, i said it's stupid to just blame TO for things you'd NOT blame someone else for. THAT gets old.

TO had a reaction to his meds and look what happened. some jackwipes will spend the rest of their lives convinced TO *did* try to kill himself. why? because that's what they want to believe regardless of the facts around 'em. THAT is stupid.

it's STUPID to pile on TO simply for the sake of him being TO. when he truly crosses the line - great. let's slap him down. but it's STUPID to make up crap to be mad at him for.

 

[Hoofbite]

Stubborness and a refusal to use the weapons we have or put them in the right spots to make plays is what may undo this team in the end.

Yeah, forget TO's drops which probably number around 8 on the season including 2 for TDs.........its all coaching.

 

[Da Hammer]

this is disgusting to hear about. we didnt even try to make it difficult for the Eagles to try and take T.O out of the game

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Sorry, but I'm calling B.S. on the idea that Reid told them to not hit Bledsoe too hard so that he'd stay in the game.

What, they feared Tony Romo? That's ridiculous.

 

[EPL0c0]

Maybe its just me, but I think when you make the decision to bring TO in you have to understand that you may need change up a little bit to keep him happy. Thats just common sense to me! Why would you bring him in and then not use him knowing that could cause an issue. If thats how they think they should handle TO then they made the wrong decision to bring him in in the 1st place!

On that deep underthrown pass...I have no idea who was right or who was wrong.

Bledsoe said it looked different than it did in practice. I don't understand what that means. Does that mean that if a play doesn't go as expected or as it's drawn up, that Bledsoe can't adjust? Or was he slamming Owens for running the wrong route?

from the Colishaw article: "Witten said he thought linebacker Jeremiah Trotter was sealing off the outside, so he went inside. But Trotter said the Eagles worked on that play all week, that they know Bledsoe likes to hit Witten about three yards outside the hash mark on the play."

Hmm...does Bledsoe just throw to where the drawn up play says the guy should be at and that's the end of that? He had time on taht last play to adjust, to read Witten, to see where the play went b/c there was no blitz, the protection was decent enough...

CowboyL0c0

 

[Coakleys Dad]

I don't know how you know that T.O. was open deep on the first play. Sheldon was right with Owens and Dawkins was presumably over the top before he saw the ball come out and came up to make the INT. We didn't get to see exactly where all of those three players were when the ball came out. I don't think simply because Bledsoe decided to throw it that he was open.

I was at the game sitting in the endzone looking right at the play...he had him by 5 yards... throw it to the back of the endzone... he will get there... that pass was pathetic

 

[Smashmouth24]

I was at the game sitting in the endzone looking right at the play...he had him by 5 yards... throw it to the back of the endzone... he will get there... that pass was pathetic

That's a different play. the play you're referring to I've covered in another response to this thread. Also, looking at where the receiver and defenders end when the ball is in the air is no indication that Drew "had him". He "had him" on that play for a rather easy first down and threw it late at which point two Eagles knew it was in the air before Owens did.

 

[Rampage]

poor TO the team is not bending over backwards for him.

Here is an idea, when you are thrown the ball catch it, he has as many drops as catches.

true but it if this team was "bending over backwards for him" we might be 3-1 maybe even 4-0

 

[msreddy999]

Well, Trotter is TO's best friend (atleast among eagles). I am not surprised to see those comments from Trotter. I am not saying they are not true but I dont think Eagles doubled TO on every play. They had thier worst corner on him for a few plays.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah, forget TO's drops which probably number around 8 on the season including 2 for TDs.........its all coaching.

First of all, who said it was all coaching?

Please, let's leave the straw men for the Wizard of Oz.

Second, TO is still playing with a broken finger is he not?

Third, yes, he must share the blame for those drops. But the Cowboys also need to find a way to get him the ball, which was Trotter's point. Move him around. Get him the ball on deep routes when he has his man beat.

It seems - seems being the operative word - that we're just deploying him as a decoy.

It seems as if Parcells really doesn't want to disrupt the offense to accommodate TO's unique abilities, which makes me wonder whether he even wanted him on the team.

 

[Jarv]

And what if we "forced it to TO" and threw some interceptions ......?

How many ? Like 3 ?

 

[Doomsday101]

First of all, who said it was all coaching?

Please, let's leave the straw men for the Wizard of Oz.

Second, TO is still playing with a broken finger is he not?

Third, yes, he must share the blame for those drops. But the Cowboys also need to find a way to get him the ball, which was Trotter's point. Move him around. Get him the ball on deep routes when he has his man beat.

It seems - seems being the operative word - that we're just deploying him as a decoy.

It seems as if Parcells really doesn't want to disrupt the offense to accommodate TO's unique abilities, which makes me wonder whether he even wanted him on the team.

Thing is we don't know how much of the offense TO understands which makes moving him around a bit more difficult. After all this is not back yard football. Before all is said and done I do think TO will get his catches and Dallas will start putting him in motion as he gains a better understanding of the offense.