Truth and Rumors: McNabb to be traded?

[LittleBoyBlue]

I think McNabb would love to go back to Chicago really... I think it would be a wise move on Chicago's behalf.

Maybe a McNabb for Briggs trade??

He couldnt help the Eagles win the SB... he wont get Chicago to win SB. IMO.

A "smart" move WOULD be to go to another team though... who knows... he could get lucky and win a SB with another team in spite of himself.

Rothlisberger got lucky... so did Dilfer.... etc...

 

[Maikeru-sama]

He couldnt help the Eagles win the SB... he wont get Chicago to win SB. IMO.

A "smart" move WOULD be to go to another team though... who knows... he could get lucky and win a SB with another team in spite of himself.

Rothlisberger got lucky... so did Dilfer.... etc...

To steal one from LD Fan's book

Thanks for contributing....TO .

I just love how arm-chair quarterbacks so causally dismiss the accomplishments of professional athletes and accuse them of lucking up on winning an NFL Championship.

- Mike G.

 

[Verdict]

If Chicago wants him, they will have to sell thier souls to get him...

amongst the likes of which we have never seen BEFORE....wait, the Commanders do it every year....

However, I cannot believe that Mcnabb is going to go anywhere for at least the next two years unless gets injured...then all bets are off.

I get the impression that other NFL teams may believe that McNabb's value is greater than Philly believes it to be. It would be hard to fathom Philly trading McNabb this year, but in reality, they would probably get very good value out of trading him this year.

It would definitely be unconventional thinking to let go of your franchise QB, but I do not believe that the drafting of a QB this year was just taking the BPA. I think Philly drafted a QB early to play him. Philly has always been very good at letting players go a little early rather than keeping a player a little too long. Trading McNabb would be a gutsy move by Philly, but would be a great move if they do not think he can win a SB.

 

[sonnyboy]

Mcnabb is simply the 21st century version of Cunningham.

Great individual athlete.
Can make a poor/average team respectable/good.

Lacks important skills required to make a good team great and/or produce exceptable results against superior competition in post-season.

What does he lack?
1) Conditioning- For all his wonderful athletisim, he all to often tires in the 4th Quarter.
2) Consistency- His fundamentals suck. That's why he gets in these funks and drives the ball into the ground 3 yards ahead of receiver.
3) Accuracy - This really plays back to fundamentals because he is often very accurate. Just not often enough. In fact he may be the least accurate QB I've seen who was also considered elite.
4) Character/Leadership/Mental Toughness/Maturity - he's imbaressing. A weak minded momma's boy whom I'm glad never played for Dallas.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Completely agree 100%.

The league has media blitzed McNabb to the fans bcause he is good (not great) and black.

The Eagles defense has been the difference over the years for the most part.IMO

I was not being racist just a viewpoint on marketing and Eagles team, so for those that are offended cry elsewhere!

Thanks for contributing Rush

- Mike G.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Mcnabb is simply the 21st century version of Cunningham.

Great individual athlete.
Can make a poor/average team respectable/good.

Lacks important skills required to make a good team great and/or produce exceptable results against superior competition in post-season.

What does he lack?
1) Conditioning- For all his wonderful athletisim, he all to often tires in the 4th Quarter.
2) Consistency- His fundamentals suck. That's why he gets in these funks and drives the ball into the ground 3 yards ahead of receiver.
3) Accuracy - This really plays back to fundamentals because he is often very accurate. Just not often enough. In fact he may be the least accurate QB I've seen who was also considered elite.
4) Character/Leadership/Mental Toughness/Maturity - he's imbarassing. A weak minded mommas boy whom I glad never played for Dallas.

I agree with most of this, the only possible exception is conditioning. I think you are spot on with your evaluation of his mental weaknesses. I think that could continue to hold him back as I think he has enough talent to take a team all the way, if he can toughen up mentally.

It remains to be seen if Mcnabb has that "IT" factor, that guys like Brady and Montana just ooze with.

- Mike G.

 

[Vintage]

Completely agree 100%.

The league has media blitzed McNabb to the fans bcause he is good (not great) and black.

The Eagles defense has been the difference over the years for the most part.IMO

I was not being racist just a viewpoint on marketing and Eagles team, so for those that are offended cry elsewhere!

Or it was because he was good, young, and marketable....

But hey- whatever floats your boat....

 

[Alexander]

That's what gets me, I know McNabb is a product of the system and all, but didn't the Eagles get almost as far as the Bears? So why would the Eagles make that trade? I could see if Garcia resigned in Philly.

If you notice the pattern for the Eagles, when they draft a replacement, the incumbent is gone within two years. It happened that way with Vincent and Taylor, Duce Staley, Dhani Jones, Todd Pinkston, Chad Lewis and so on.

I'd give McNabb a season or two. Then Kolb will be ready. The writing is on the wall.

I do not know about his contract situation, but I can see them unloading him very soon. He had every right to be worried when Kolb was taken. Unlike many team, Philadelphia has never been reluctant to cut players that no longer fit into their long term plans.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

To steal one from LD Fan's book

From one Mick to another... care to elaborate?

 

[Verdict]

Mcnabb is simply the 21st century version of Cunningham.

Great individual athlete.
Can make a poor/average team respectable/good.

Lacks important skills required to make a good team great and/or produce exceptable results against superior competition in post-season.

What does he lack?
1) Conditioning- For all his wonderful athletisim, he all to often tires in the 4th Quarter.
2) Consistency- His fundamentals suck. That's why he gets in these funks and drives the ball into the ground 3 yards ahead of receiver.
3) Accuracy - This really plays back to fundamentals because he is often very accurate. Just not often enough. In fact he may be the least accurate QB I've seen who was also considered elite.
4) Character/Leadership/Mental Toughness/Maturity - he's imbaressing. A weak minded momma's boy whom I'm glad never played for Dallas.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yep, he's not going anywhere except down to defeat.

The Eagles did not get rid of their playoffs QB Garcia to ship McNabb off.
That new QB from Houston will not be ready for another year or so.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Originally Posted by sonnyboy
Mcnabb is simply the 21st century version of Cunningham.

Great individual athlete.
Can make a poor/average team respectable/good.

Lacks important skills required to make a good team great and/or produce exceptable results against superior competition in post-season.

What does he lack?
1) Conditioning- For all his wonderful athletisim, he all to often tires in the 4th Quarter.
2) Consistency- His fundamentals suck. That's why he gets in these funks and drives the ball into the ground 3 yards ahead of receiver.
3) Accuracy - This really plays back to fundamentals because he is often very accurate. Just not often enough. In fact he may be the least accurate QB I've seen who was also considered elite.
4) Character/Leadership/Mental Toughness/Maturity - he's embaressing. A weak minded momma's boy whom I'm glad never played for Dallas.

I thought this was worth reposting.

*** 4) Character/Leadership/Mental Toughness/Maturity - he's embaressing. A weak minded momma's boy whom I'm glad never played for Dallas.

 

[Vintage]

I'm glad never played for Dallas.

I'm not. I wish he had. Maybe we would have won some more games during the whole Bledsoe/Testeverde/Henson/Carter/et al regime.

But I guess people forget that and would rather have them because of their "mental toughness."

Yawn.

 

[BouncingCheese]

The more I hear on the radio about how badly Chicago wants him, the more plausible this scenario is getting

Think about it: Mcnabb is already older than thirty and is injury prone; The offense actually was BETTER with Mcnabb out and a true West-Coast qb in the offense, something the Eagles obviously feel kolb is; and to top it all Kolb is young, and the Eagles really have not shown a problem of letting go of older veteran fan-favorites....IF Mcnabb leaves then I guess there really IS no exception to that rule with the EGGLES.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

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I'm not. I wish he had. Maybe we would have won some more games during the whole Bledsoe/Testeverde/Henson/Carter/et al regime.

But I guess people forget that and would rather have them because of their "mental toughness."

Yawn.

THIS was the road to ROMO... sometimes thats what it takes.

IF Mcnabb leaves then I guess there really IS no exception to that rule with the EGGLES.

Eggles = Fragile Egg.... very good... even if it wasnt meant to conveyed as that... or maybe it was...

 

[sonnyboy]

another significant problem with McNabb that's not his fault.....

He's played his whole career in the wrong offense.

The WCO requires a QB who has a more accurate than strong arm.

Although the WCO does put the QB on the move a good bit, it does not require a tremendous athelete to run it.

In fact all the 3 step drop plays take a great running QB's running ability out of the equation.

For all of his running ability, McNabb's never actually been all that good throwing on the run. Something the WCO often calls for.

This should be McNabb's offense:

Majority of the plays should be 7-9 step dropps.

Looking for recievers running deeper, longer developing plays.
The type of routes that stress arm strenght more and accuarcy less.

The deeper drops would create larger passing pockets. Harder to pass block but also harder to contain a mobile QB like McNabb.

The larger pass pockets and longer developing plays would give him more running opportunities.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Originally Posted by sonnyboy
Mcnabb is simply the 21st century version of Cunningham.

Great individual athlete.
Can make a poor/average team respectable/good.

Lacks important skills required to make a good team great and/or produce exceptable results against superior competition in post-season.

What does he lack?
1) Conditioning- For all his wonderful athletisim, he all to often tires in the 4th Quarter.
2) Consistency- His fundamentals suck. That's why he gets in these funks and drives the ball into the ground 3 yards ahead of receiver.
3) Accuracy - This really plays back to fundamentals because he is often very accurate. Just not often enough. In fact he may be the least accurate QB I've seen who was also considered elite.
4) Character/Leadership/Mental Toughness/Maturity - he's embaressing. A weak minded momma's boy whom I'm glad never played for Dallas.



I thought this was worth reposting.

*** 4) Character/Leadership/Mental Toughness/Maturity - he's embaressing. A weak minded momma's boy whom I'm glad never played for Dallas.

Kudos, bravo and ahorale!!

 

[TheSkaven]

Here is the original article where the rumor was sourced from ..

A McNabb trade (in theory)
By Don McKee
Inquirer Columnist

One of Incites' most important roles in the media mix called Philadelphia is to pass along stories that are under-reported elsewhere.

So while cautioning you that this scenario is strictly the inner thought of one of the area's most sage football observers, here's one compelling theory:

The recent drafting of quarterback Kevin Kolb could mean that Donovan McNabb will be traded before the 2007 season.

A few observers have opined that McNabb will be moved after the coming season. But here's a scenario that has him moving before September.

The Chicago Bears are ready to win the Super Bowl. They might have won it last year except for a glaring weakness at quarterback. Before the ever-popular "window" closes, the Bears need a quality QB to kick them over the hump.

This scenario obviously depends on two things. One, that McNabb is physically ready to play on Week 1 of the 2007 season. Two, that Chicago is convinced McNabb is their best available QB option.

(The fact that McNabb is from Chicago is, in my mind, irrelevant. The Bears would be just as interested in an available quality veteran if he were from Portland, Tucson or Montreal.)

But the key to this scenario is Bears linebacker Lance Briggs, who has said publicly that he will never play for Chicago again and who refused to report to minicamp on Friday.

Briggs is, arguably, the best weakside linebacker in the game and is only 26.

The question most Eagles fans are asking right now is: Why would the Bears make that deal?

It would give them a chance to save face, by sending Briggs where the team wants to send him and not be seen as having Briggs dictate to them. Plus, they would get a vital component of any Super Bowl team in exchange for a player who says he won't show up.

The Eagles, of course, would then have rebuilt their defense to the point where it could carry an offense managed by A.J. Feeley or Kelly Holcomb, while awaiting the development of Kolb.

If you asked the Eagles about this they would, naturally, laugh it off. The key for the Birds in any trade scenario is to appear totally neutral while listening to offers. It's always best to have the player everybody else wants, then choose the best offer.

Is it going to happen? Right now, it's just a thought. But if McNabb shows up in July and begins tearing up training camp, the offers are sure to soon follow.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Here is the original article where the rumor was sourced from ..

A McNabb trade (in theory)
By Don McKee
Inquirer Columnist

One of Incites' most important roles in the media mix called Philadelphia is to pass along stories that are under-reported elsewhere.

So while cautioning you that this scenario is strictly the inner thought of one of the area's most sage football observers, here's one compelling theory:

The recent drafting of quarterback Kevin Kolb could mean that Donovan McNabb will be traded before the 2007 season.

A few observers have opined that McNabb will be moved after the coming season. But here's a scenario that has him moving before September.

The Chicago Bears are ready to win the Super Bowl. They might have won it last year except for a glaring weakness at quarterback. Before the ever-popular "window" closes, the Bears need a quality QB to kick them over the hump.

This scenario obviously depends on two things. One, that McNabb is physically ready to play on Week 1 of the 2007 season. Two, that Chicago is convinced McNabb is their best available QB option.

(The fact that McNabb is from Chicago is, in my mind, irrelevant. The Bears would be just as interested in an available quality veteran if he were from Portland, Tucson or Montreal.)

But the key to this scenario is Bears linebacker Lance Briggs, who has said publicly that he will never play for Chicago again and who refused to report to minicamp on Friday.

Briggs is, arguably, the best weakside linebacker in the game and is only 26.

The question most Eagles fans are asking right now is: Why would the Bears make that deal?

It would give them a chance to save face, by sending Briggs where the team wants to send him and not be seen as having Briggs dictate to them. Plus, they would get a vital component of any Super Bowl team in exchange for a player who says he won't show up.

The Eagles, of course, would then have rebuilt their defense to the point where it could carry an offense managed by A.J. Feeley or Kelly Holcomb, while awaiting the development of Kolb.

If you asked the Eagles about this they would, naturally, laugh it off. The key for the Birds in any trade scenario is to appear totally neutral while listening to offers. It's always best to have the player everybody else wants, then choose the best offer.

Is it going to happen? Right now, it's just a thought. But if McNabb shows up in July and begins tearing up training camp, the offers are sure to soon follow.

In essence... McNabb gets to go on Injured Reserve for another team.

 

[TD22]

according to YAHOO SPORTS......


NFL Rumors

Super shuffle? McNabb, Briggs swap makes sense

Monday, May 21, 2007 2:06 pm EDT



Was the recent drafting of quarterback Kevin Kolb a sign that the Philadelphia Eagles might trade Donovan McNabb before the 2007 season?

That's one theory, anyway. As for a possible destination, the Chicago Bears are ready to win the Super Bowl. They might have won it last year except for a glaring weakness at quarterback.

The key to this scenario is Bears linebacker Lance Briggs, who has said publicly that he will never play for Chicago again and who refused to report to minicamp on Friday.

Briggs is, arguably, the best weakside linebacker in the game and is only 26. He could help Philly rebuild its defense while Kolb gets ready to take control of the offense.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

Related: Lance Briggs, Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles