Trysten Hill Came Alive

[RonnieT24]

I'd have to go back and look, but I think Hill plays less on run downs than the other DTs. He does have first-step explosion, which is what got him drafted in the second round, but he doesn't really do much with it. Other DTs on the team with less athletic talent get more pressure than he does. He gets a fewer snaps per game than the others (except Golston) when he was expected to provide much more than that.

Hill was supposed to be a 3-tech pass rusher, a guy who could get into the backfield and be disruptive. We have not seen that.

Quinn's rotation does not appear to be run down/pass down specific. He just seems to deploy them in tandems.. Bohanna and Gallimore in one tandem for a series and then Hill and Osa in the other for the next series with Golston sprinkled in here and there. When it's obvious passing downs they kick Tank inside most of the time which sends one or both DTs to the sidelines. It's simply not accurate to say the other guys get more pressure than he does.. The numbers say different. He has more QB hits and pressures than the others despite playing fewer snaps. Which begs the question.. does he get fewer snaps because they do a better job of not giving up long drives when he's in there?

 

[ghst187]

LOL he's done virtually nothing this year per usual.

One of the worst draft picks in team history.

Slightly better than Brewster…but not much

 

[JBS]

This should be his last season as a Cowboy.

We’ve said this every year for what seems like 10 years now

 

[fivetwos]

I disagree, add Big BO in there and as a group they've been far better than fans TRY to evaluate. Most of the big gashing runs are coming to the outside where the LBs and Safety along with the occasional DB are not getting it done consistently.

both the run game and pass rush has been better then expected from the middle of the DL.

Yeah I won’t disagree with that.

Just still seems like in general we are a little weak in the middle. I still have big hopes for Gallimore and there’s certainly more of a time allowance on OO.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Lol has 4 solo tackles 1 tfl and only plays 28% of the snaps. He sucks. Top 5 worst 2nd round pick. And that says a lot for our team who is awful at drafting in the 2nd round lol

 

[tyke1doe]

Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Because I wouldn't pay a guy who even in a contract year looks meh

A lot of people around here want to pay Rush....he's in a contract year too! Guy wasn't good enough on multiple occasions with multiple teams....now we have half the fan base saying we need to franchise tag him and cut Dak. LOL.

 

[Risen Star]

Already did.. if you were actually interested you would have read them.. and I am not inclined to waste time repeating myself to someone who isn't inclined to hear what is being said anyway.

You saying he's playing well isn't evidence.

Trysten Hill is a bum. He's been a bum his entire career. I can prove that based on what he's done on the field. You can't prove your homeristic nonsense that he's a good player. You can only make baseless claims that make you feel good.

 

[Risen Star]

Oh brother.

Easily true.

Sorry not sorry.

 

[JBond]

I was listening to those sounds from the sidelines clips and Trysten Hill seems to be fitting in well with the team, making some plays, and having fun out there, which can help a player make plays.

With all the negativity towards him before preseason, I'm glad to see him finally coming around as a player.

The NFL isn't easy, and fans are often impatient when it comes to outcomes from a player.

I'm personally loving what the defensive line is bringing lately as a whole, and Hill is part of that.

Hill and Armstrong are both turning into solid players. Sometimes it takes a moment.

 

[Loso86]

This should be his last season as a Cowboy.

On a cheap contract he's been productive this year so let it play out

 

[stilltheguru]

On a cheap contract he's been productive this year so let it play out

No thanks. He can get 10 sacks and I'd only franchise him

 

[KJJ]

This should be his last season as a Cowboy.

It may or may not be. Some didn’t think he would make the team this year. He has played better and is starting to show up once in a while. We’ll see how the rest of the season plays out with him.

 

[exciter]

Yet Quin did the oppostie, odd huh No a coaches knows better and quinn did not draft hill nor did MM , hes here for a reason...

Right, going back to last year coming back from the injury… they didn’t necessarily need to keep him… not only did they keep him but they gave him fairly significant snaps. The coaching staff likes what he’s producing much more than fans… all things considered I’m giving Quinn the benefit of the doubt on this one!

 

[plasticman]

Injuries prevented Hill from developing along with a different DC in each of his first three seasons. the Cowboys now have an impressive collection of DT's, of which Hill is one. Gallimore, Osa, Bohanna.....deep.

 

[ondaedg]

Nothing personal against Hill but every time I focus on him especially on running plays he has been mauled by an OL. He’s played 77 snaps this year and has 4 total tackles and 2 pressures. And if I recall Fournette ran right at Hill’s hole on that long run in the TB game. I don’t know if he sells out on every play by trying to shoot a gap or if he is doing what the defensive play call requires him to do but I’ve seen him over the years just get thrown around especially against the run.

There are lots of DTs in this league who have more tackles for loss than Hill has combined tackles on similar snap counts so I’m not seeing the good play some of you are talking about.

 

[Bullflop]

We can only hope Tristen puts forth his best effort when he most needs to -- at least, it's a worthwhile cause to hope for . . .

 

[blueblood70]

Right, going back to last year coming back from the injury… they didn’t necessarily need to keep him… not only did they keep him but they gave him fairly significant snaps. The coaching staff likes what he’s producing much more than fans… all things considered I’m giving Quinn the benefit of the doubt on this one!

right not saying Hills great nor is he going to have stellar career, but he got the nod over many bubble guys this season. they allowed ridgeway to be taken etc etc so they see something HILL that fans cant.

 

[RonnieT24]

right not saying Hills great nor is he going to have stellar career, but he got the nod over many bubble guys this season. they allowed ridgeway to be taken etc etc so they see something HILL that fans cant.

Unfortunately fans are prone to seeing what they want to see. And ignore that which they don't. I am not a big PFF grade guy but I am a fan or win rate and I think Hill has the best win rate of all our DTs. People poo pooing his low statistical numbers but then declaring guys who play more snaps but have lower numbers are "better" just amazes me. On a per snap basis Hill is outperforming all of them. That appears to bother some people.. They'll live.

 

[mattjames2010]

JAG who beat out other JAGs. Recent history has been so poor with the DT position that this is what we get excited about. Same with safety play.