News: TS: Report: NFL Decides On Punishment For Brad Allen's Officiating Crew

[Chasing6]

FAKE NEWS!!!

 

[loublue22]

There is literally zero evidence the ref screwed up the 2 point conversion call. We have no idea who said what, only video evidence of 3 linemen talking to the ref who then announced one of them eligible over the loudspeaker, audible by 100,000 people. Detroit then threw the ball to someone who was not announced as eligible.

If they are downgrading that crew it should be for the Hendershot call.

 

[RomoIsGod]

Had the roles been reversed this place would be littered with conspiracy threads. It would be "proof" of every whiny thread when the Cowboys lost.

But since the call benefitted the Cowboys, we've got a thousand posters playing the role Johnny Cochran for the refs.

Is it really that hard to admit we caught a break? Yes, it is. Need to keep that conspiracy card handy for the next loss.

Jake. Had they said 68 was eligible instead then Dallas would have covered him instead.

 

[RomoIsGod]

There is literally zero evidence the ref screwed up the 2 point conversion call. We have no idea who said what, only video evidence of 3 linemen talking to the ref who then announced one of them eligible over the loudspeaker, audible by 100,000 people. Detroit then threw the ball to someone who was not announced as eligible.

If they are downgrading that crew it should be for the Hendershot call.

Exactly.

 

[LovinItAll]

Big deal doesnt change the out come or take away the dissatisfaction about the ending many who saw the game have.
Many will still think it was just a sloppy fix.
They wont be fired as these guys are trained by the nfl and cant be fired. they do a good job for the nfl, just not the teams or the fans lol.

What I want is a public conference with those officials and the lions players, dumb dan lol and let them all explain what happened.
even if it is after the season.

and yeah kick these refs out now or after the season, I doubt any team would like to see this crew is going to do their playoff game.

I think for a play like that you stop the game get ny involved as to what to do, I THINK so many mistakes were made,they should redo the down,
no penalty's and if dumb cambell wants to go for it again, let him.
I feel sorry for the lions players to have such a dumb HC , he screwed that play all up , and then said they practiced it all week!! imagine if they only spent a hour! lol

In fact considering they took all week, and it came out like that is pathetic ! Reminds me of that last play of dallas where they didnt get ball snapped in time lol
and Mike said they practiced that all week too , pathetic again !

Man, whatever. They announced ON THE PA SYSTEM that #70 was declared eligible before Philly walked to the line of scrimmage. The entire stadium, including the fans, the players, and the Lions head coach heard that announcement. That Goff threw it to #68 anyway was idiotic. I’ve flip flipped back and forth on what I thought about the play and have landed on this:

- Philly sent 3 guys to approach the ref that needs to be notified of eligibility in an effort to try and trick any Cowboy players who weren’t paying attention, except they they WERE paying attention, therefore they left #68 uncovered.

- The ref told the defense that #70 was eligible. I don’t care who actually declared eligible, at that point, #68 could not be allowed to catch the ball

- Again, I just listened to the in-game PA announce player eligibility as #70. If Campbell had been paying attention, he still had Goff’s ear through his helmet and could’ve told him not to throw to #68.

- They tried to get tricky and it backfired. Tired of people whining about what the refs should or should not have done. If the Lions wanted #68 eligible, they should have sent him and him only to the ref before the play, then we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

- Ultimately, it was completely fair. The Lions got a free play when Micah was offsides and couldn’t score. Then they got the ball a yard and a half from the first play and couldn’t score. They weren’t ‘robbed’. They could never had let the play stand as called. NY didn’t need to ‘get involved’. It’s the player’s responsibility to make certain the refs understand their intention clearly. It was Detroit’s own actions that prevented that The Lions needed to pay attention, period.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I don’t think the Lions intentionally tried to trick the referees. No evidence of it.

The real mistake was stubornly going for 2 on the subsequent plays. In the chaos of their fury at the penalty , they should have sent the game to OT.

POST OF YOUR ENTIRE CAREER, that's exactly the issue, GREED!!!

 

[CCBoy]

This group on site would sue for having to watch natural child birth...

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

Its odd that people are missing this. Its the same reason Sewell goes up to the ref for absolutely no reason. They're trying to sneak the eligible receiver into the play.

Yep Tony Dungy and the SNF said it last night that the Lions were trying to be slick(which is ok but don’t get mad when it backfires) the lions didn’t do anything wrong but they complicated the matter and it backfire on them. I don’t see the big deal. Just move on. They’re trying to be like the Belicheck Pats so bad

 

[acr731]

Had the roles been reversed this place would be littered with conspiracy threads. It would be "proof" of every whiny thread when the Cowboys lost.

But since the call benefitted the Cowboys, we've got a thousand posters playing the role Johnny Cochran for the refs.

Is it really that hard to admit we caught a break? Yes, it is. Need to keep that conspiracy card handy for the next loss.

Couldn't agree more. It's like the fumble call that went against CeeDee. Since it took a drive away from Dallas it's the worst rule in the book. But the tune would be different had it happened to Detroit instead.

Same thing applies to the fools in the media. As long as they're talking positive and constantly showering Dak and the team with praise, they're the best in the business. They're hacks and no-nothing idiots when they're not.

 

[Mannix]

There is literally zero evidence the ref screwed up the 2 point conversion call. We have no idea who said what, only video evidence of 3 linemen talking to the ref who then announced one of them eligible over the loudspeaker, audible by 100,000 people. Detroit then threw the ball to someone who was not announced as eligible.

If they are downgrading that crew it should be for the Hendershot call.

They are all selectively not mentioning the Hendershot call.

 

[Doomsday]

It cracks me up that people think the Lions' should automatically be awarded a win in this situation.

Dallas got screwed as well, who is to say they would not have covered 68 if they were told he was eligible instead of 70? The entire play would have been different.

Dan Campbell let his temper cloud his judgment as well, it was stupid to go for 2 after they got the penalty.

 

[McKDaddy]

Doesn’t matter. Once they told our defense that #70 was eligible, they had to throw a flag.

If Philly had simply sent #68 - and only #68 - to the ref, I’d be more understanding. The Lions knew running 3 guys at the ref might confuse the defense. Instead, it confused the refs.

Game over. We win.

I don't understand why how many players went over to talk to the ref really matters. As we all agree, the ref is going to report the eligible player to the defense. We are going to know the options & it's going to be on us to defend it. Also, trying to cause confusion is a fundamental part of most football plays. So, even if that was part of their plan, isn't that just competing?

But IF the ref screwed up, they sabotaged a teams chances. What should be clear is that Detroit ran the play for 68. It's a pretty big leap to believe Detroit messed up their own reporting.

I don't believe a single poster on this site would be as understanding if it had happened to us.

 

[speedkilz88]

I don't understand why how many players went over to talk to the ref really matters. As we all agree, the ref is going to report the eligible player to the defense. We are going to know the options & it's going to be on us to defend it. Also, trying to cause confusion is a fundamental part of most football plays. So, even if that was part of their plan, isn't that just competing?

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But IF the ref screwed up, they sabotaged a teams chances. What should be clear is that Detroit ran the play for 68. It's a pretty big leap to believe Detroit messed up their own reporting.

I don't believe a single poster on this site would be as understanding if it had happened to us.

It's the only reason we're still talking about this ********! If Detroit doesn't run three players at him there wouldn't have been a problem.

 

[Blue&Silver]

I don't think they tried to trick the referee at all. I didn't see any evidence of that. When Decker reported he walked over he walked over with another lineman, that's so they don't give away the play to the cowboys. If only Decker went over and reported the cowboys would know who was eligible. That would have been stupid, and unprecedented. I feel for the ref if he didn't intentionally change the outcome. He might have a mental problem, early-onset of dementia or something in that genera. The lions ran that play before, the coach explained it to the refs specifically Alan before the game. It just doesn't look good for the refs. I can completely understand the scary implications that the call was related to sports betting. This will be talked about for decades.

 

[nightrain]

Boomer Esiasen was still pushing the Lions robbed narrative last night with no context. It's the same old tactic we see play out all the time in the media.

 

[DogFace]

Had the roles been reversed this place would be littered with conspiracy threads. It would be "proof" of every whiny thread when the Cowboys lost.

But since the call benefitted the Cowboys, we've got a thousand posters playing the role Johnny Cochran for the refs.

Is it really that hard to admit we caught a break? Yes, it is. Need to keep that conspiracy card handy for the next loss.

Yea. This is your cause. It’s virtue signaling—and we get it you’re above challenging refs.

We didn’t get a break. Yes. Had the refs allowed a player not announced as eligible to score we’d have been mad. Good job.

You don’t understand what happened on this play though and your whataboutism doesn’t even apply. The wrong call was the tripping call on the wrong player that you won’t see again in your life and never have before.

Stop worrying so much about when we discuss refs. It’s heathy to challenge authority and not your business.

Adjust your resolution. Happy new year.

 

[McKDaddy]

It's the only reason we're still talking about this bull****! If Detroit doesn't run three players at him there wouldn't have been a problem.

You would like to think that would have simplified it. But couldn't the ref still have screwed up? I mean they get numbers wrong all the time when calling fouls.

Players talking to the ref between plays isn't a rare occurrence. How do we know 58 didn't go over because he felt we were doing something he wanted the ref to watch for?

 

[RonnieT24]

I don't understand why how many players went over to talk to the ref really matters. As we all agree, the ref is going to report the eligible player to the defense. We are going to know the options & it's going to be on us to defend it. Also, trying to cause confusion is a fundamental part of most football plays. So, even if that was part of their plan, isn't that just competing?

But IF the ref screwed up, they sabotaged a teams chances. What should be clear is that Detroit ran the play for 68. It's a pretty big leap to believe Detroit messed up their own reporting.

I don't believe a single poster on this site would be as understanding if it had happened to us.

You're wrong.. We just experienced this against the Eagles when Edoga failed to report but Dak reported for him. I still believe it's a silly rule but a rule it is. In that Eagles game I believe we lost a touchdown because of it and ended up kicking a FG. Had we scored that TD the score would have been 28-27 in those final seconds and all we would have needed to win would have been a FG. Yes we were all upset but most of acknowledged that if that's the rule then it was the right call.

 

[RonnieT24]

You would like to think that would have simplified it. But couldn't the ref still have screwed up? I mean they get numbers wrong all the time when calling fouls.

Players talking to the ref between plays isn't a rare occurrence. How do we know 58 didn't go over because he felt we were doing something he wanted the ref to watch for?

Yes they get numbers wrong but that's on fouls, not on guys standing 5 feet away from them and talking to them. And I have never see them mistake a 70 for a 68 before. I would see if he had mistook the 58 as the reporter but not 70.

 

[speedkilz88]

Yes they get numbers wrong but that's on fouls, not on guys standing 5 feet away from them and talking to them. And I have never see them mistake a 70 for a 68 before. I would see if he had mistook the 58 as the reporter but not 70.

The comical thing is that the lions heard him announce 70 and didn't complain.