Twitter: Justin Tuck on Rams and Stephen Jones

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He doesn't need to. The Cowboys are a cash cow.

It comes in way faster than he can spend it.
Spending money in football isnt saving it in real life, the pie gets bigger every year no matter how much you spend so I'm not sure what he's protecting

Owning an NFL team is a money tree that you dont have to water it just grows and grows
 

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Saying build a team around a good QB is one thing. Saying to trade your first round pick every year to do it is nuts.

In order for what the Rams did to work you need to first off have a generational head coach. And let's be honest....McVey is one of the few that is. He's what people think Kyle Shanahan is except with not as much talent.
Bingo, McVay is the younger version of Andy Reid, You have 1 or 2 every generation just like Mahomes is a generation talent. Chiefs have generational QB and HC= dynasty

I recall when the Chiefs made the Super Bowl the first time under Mahomes/Reid. Tony Romo said they are going to be the new Patriots because of the QB/HC combination. He didnt say they would a dynasty for 20 years but they would always be in the running as long as they had that QB/HC.
 

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Spending money in football isnt saving it in real life, the pie gets bigger every year no matter how much you spend so I'm not sure what he's protecting

Owning an NFL team is a money tree that you dont have to water it just grows and grows
This is actually one of the more fascinating conversations I've had pop up in the last few weeks. In the modern era the mega contracts have gotten so large that they have become a problem for some owners. Jerry Jones had to put up north of $330M for Dak and Lamb a few months ago. That's more than their annual operating income after taxes. Its extremely difficult to run a sports franchise these days on the teams income alone. The majority of money to be made for owners is in the valuation of the team. Not saying we should feel sorry for these owners when they cry poor, but they often need to utilize outside investments or minority owners to fund their payroll. Its a major advantage a team like the Rams have with an owner with extremely deep pockets.
 

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Bingo, McVay is the younger version of Andy Reid, You have 1 or 2 every generation just like Mahomes is a generation talent. Chiefs have generational QB and HC= dynasty

I recall when the Chiefs made the Super Bowl the first time under Mahomes/Reid. Tony Romo said they are going to be the new Patriots because of the QB/HC combination. He didnt say they would a dynasty for 20 years but they would always be in the running as long as they had that QB/HC.
Yep. People keep mentioning generational when it comes to Mahomes. Well let's not forget there are generational head coaches too and McVey is for sure one of them.
 

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This is actually one of the more fascinating conversations I've had pop up in the last few weeks. In the modern era the mega contracts have gotten so large that they have become a problem for some owners. Jerry Jones had to put up north of $330M for Dak and Lamb a few months ago. That's more than their annual operating income after taxes. Its extremely difficult to run a sports franchise these days on the teams income alone. The majority of money to be made for owners is in the valuation of the team. Not saying we should feel sorry for these owners when they cry poor, but they often need to utilize outside investments or minority owners to fund their payroll. Its a major advantage a team like the Rams have with an owner with extremely deep pockets.
It probably explains why teams don't allow a QB and Receiver to be top paid in the same offseason. He had to do that for his own doing.
 

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SJ is clueless about how to manage the cap and build a roster that is a serious contender.

One of the truths about NFL executives is quite simple: If you’re lazy and unaccountable for results, you get what we’ve been getting for three decades - a wild card win every 5-7 years.
He’s really good at the cap if you look at their goal. Their goal is make money and not spending goes a long way in making money. If your goal is winning a SB it’s not great but that’s not their goal
 

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He’s really good at the cap if you look at their goal. Their goal is make money and not spending goes a long way in making money. If your goal is winning a SB it’s not great but that’s not their goal
Your going to make money no matter how much money you spend. Owning an NFL team you dont have to work to make money.
 

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I think in the salary cap era the RAMs way is the only way. But it also takes intelligence in the front office and that's where Dallas fails. What is remarkable about the Rams is that they gave up all those first round picks and still managed to rebuild.

I think it would help the Cowboys to do 2 things. 1. Lose so they can draft early and find true impact players. 2. Trade some quality players for first round draft picks. Drafting 15-20 every year makes it that much harder to build a roster of quality talent. So does trading away 4th round picks for garbage.
 

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The way Stephen and the Oldman run Dallas.... that's what's not sustainable. Stephen is just one stubborn SOB... Get over yourself!!
 

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The Rams went 5-12 the following season after winning the Super Bowl so it wasn’t sustainable. They fell completely off in just one season after losing some of those impact players. They started rebounding last season after making some really good draft picks including Puka Nacua. They still don’t have near the team they had three years ago.
 
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Not what Stephen nor what the author of that tweet was saying.

The Rams were trading picks left and right to get that one SB
Both your posts prove his tweet! They drafted smart, traded firvtop talent etc. Went all in one year, took a beating and then drafted and got back to good…quickly
 

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That’s my hope as well, but again he still holds the checkbook and free agency is still probably off the table, which may limit who they can attract as a GM.

I really couldn’t say at this point. Once the futility streak approaches the 40 year mark and they are the only team in the league that hasn’t played in CG in this century, maybe he realizes his “secret sauce” doesn’t taste very well, but when do narcissists admit that they are wrong?

I mean, did Brandon Carr really spook them that badly? It’s nearly unfathomable that they haven’t signed a significant FA in THAT long….haven’t won….but refuse to change.

There’s a lot of angst and complaints around here, but IMO it’s more about the refusal to change than wins and losses.
i really don’t get the brandon carr thing. he started for us was great all the way through his contract and at the end went somewhere else and got a boat load of money there. now paying some others that never contributed i see the point there. and that you do have to over pay in FA to get the guy you want. we over paid for carr but he at least was good for us for a few years maybe not 100m good but better than the other busts
 

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This is actually one of the more fascinating conversations I've had pop up in the last few weeks. In the modern era the mega contracts have gotten so large that they have become a problem for some owners. Jerry Jones had to put up north of $330M for Dak and Lamb a few months ago. That's more than their annual operating income after taxes. Its extremely difficult to run a sports franchise these days on the teams income alone. The majority of money to be made for owners is in the valuation of the team. Not saying we should feel sorry for these owners when they cry poor, but they often need to utilize outside investments or minority owners to fund their payroll. Its a major advantage a team like the Rams have with an owner with extremely deep pockets.
The TV contracts on a per team basis pay for the players. Owners are required to spend 90% of the cap each year so limited on carryover. Outside of TV revenue, the owners have ticket sales/luxury boxes, concessions, gear, sponsorships/endorsements, radio, special events and usually significant tax incentives.

There is no ownership eating Ramen and driving 2015 Carollas.
 

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If you added this team to the NFC West, we'd be the 5th place team. The worst team in that division currently has owned us for years. The rams would run circles around us. We wouldn't beat Seattle, and we lose to the Cardinals every time we play them.
I disagree but we will never know. Happy New Year.
 
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