Two first round picks. What do you do?

[NextGenBoys]

We all know we have two first round picks, and I'm guessing we will have the 31/32 pick, and the Browns roughly the 20-24 range?

My question is, what would you do with them? Would you trade them up, or trade one down for more picks? Would you just pick the two BPA?

Personally, I dont want McFadden anymore as he is going to cost too much. We already have Barber who is already becoming an elite back. We dont need another. What we need is a change of pace back.

This is where McFadden's backup comes into play. Felix Jones. The dude is FAST and is very quick. Looks to have good vision and find cutback lanes fairly well. Would be a perfect compliment to Barber. I dont know where he is being rated to be picked, but I would take him late first with our pick.

With the Browns pick, all I can say is Desean Jackson. He has had a down year this year, which means he could fall to us. He is a playmaker plain and simple. I just dont think you can miss with this guy. A year behind TG and T.O. would do wonders, and I think T.O. plays here another few years anyway.

That seems to be the problem with most WR's taken in the first round. They are thrown into the mix and expected to be a #1 right away. If he can be a #3/2 for a year, then after T.O. retires take on the number 1 role. We will be set next year with Felix Jones spelling Barber, and Jackson learning from two very good receivers (kind of like Reggie Wayne did with Marvin) and having an extra deep threat.

Your thoughts?

 

[tyke1doe]

Felix Jones (RB) and Antonio Cason (CB).

DeSean Jackson having a down year should tell you something. He's too think. He won't be able to get off press coverage in the pros and he'll be limited in the routes he can run because of his size.

I expect him to drop, and I doubt we take him. We can get a receiver in the second round. I think that's the less important position for the Cowboys, especially with no standouts in this draft.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I can see us packaging both picks and Bobby Carpenter if and only if we could get Mcfadden. I think that's kid of pricey but the rumors have Jerry infatuated with Darren McFadden.

I could see Miami doing this because Parcells picked Carpenter and he can add three players instead of one. I could also see him not doing this because Miami needs an "attraction" and McFadden might be it. I really think Carpenter and two 1st rounders helps the Dolphins a lot more than Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long does.

I could also see New England making this trade. They usually go with quantity over quality and their linebackers are closing in on 40 so Carpenter makes sense for them.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I can see us packaging both picks and Bobby Carpenter if and only if we could get Mcfadden. I think that's kid of pricey but the rumors have Jerry infatuated with Darren McFadden.

I could see Miami doing this because Parcells picked Carpenter and he can add three players instead of one. I could also see him not doing this because Miami needs an "attraction" and McFadden might be it. I really think Carpenter and two 1st rounders helps the Dolphins a lot more than Glenn Dorsey or Chris Long does.

I could also see New England making this trade. They usually go with quantity over quality and their linebackers are closing in on 40 so Carpenter makes sense for them.

If we trade both of our firsts and Carpenter to NE for their SF pick, I will personally fly to Dallas and murder Jerry Jones. Ok maybe not that far, but that is WAY to much to give the best team in the league.

 

[iceberg]

i use 'em. how to be determined over a course of events i have no idea how they'll unfold at this point.

but yea, i use 'em.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Felix Jones (RB) and Antonio Cason (CB).

DeSean Jackson having a down year should tell you something. He's too think. He won't be able to get off press coverage in the pros and he'll be limited in the routes he can run because of his size.

I expect him to drop, and I doubt we take him. We can get a receiver in the second round. I think that's the less important position for the Cowboys, especially with no standouts in this draft.

In my opinion that is when players seem to do well. They show flashes of brilliance and then kind of fade a little bit the next year. They drop a little bit and someone takes a chance on them and the blow up. Whether it be the motivation factor of having dropped or just rebounding from a flat out off year, I like the gamble on Jackson. Just my opinion.

 

[Big Dakota]

The only player, IMHO, that is worth packaging for is DMac and that is a LONG SHOT, so i'd just pick where we are and take the best RB and CB available.

 

[theebs]

The only player, IMHO, that is worth packaging for is DMac and that is a LONG SHOT, so i'd just pick where we are and take the best RB and CB available.

I agree, take whatever players are the best left. We will need a rb though.

in fact i kind of think we are going to have to sign a veteran utility running back to go with another rookie rb. this team needs to have 3 rb's.

it would be nice if this week we didnt have to make barber active and could give the carries to a young player. As it is I hope Jones gets about 25 carries this week.

A vet player in the mold of kevin faulk could do wonders for this team.

 

[iceberg]

I agree, take whatever players are the best left. We will need a rb though.

in fact i kind of think we are going to have to sign a veteran utility running back to go with another rookie rb. this team needs to have 3 rb's.

it would be nice if this week we didnt have to make barber active and could give the carries to a young player. As it is I hope Jones gets about 25 carries this week.

A vet player in the mold of kevin faulk could do wonders for this team.

in general, anticipating what we think will happen: (or i do anyway)
1. jones will be gone. no, parcells won't take him, but some team like chicago or the jaguars will. doesn't matter he won't do much there but slap the backside of a different OL colored jersey.

2. crayton will be resigned. cap going up. if we can afford to cut roy we can afford to sign home grown talent. regardless of his mouth at times.

3. ferguson will be gone. we simply don't need him, and he may wind up in miami as a stop gap measure. then again parcells is a bit higher up w/a different call. my guess is people will say what parcells will do based on what he used to do but he's not doing now what he did then - so things will change. long way of saying no to fergie for him also.

4. barber will be resigned.

we'll have to see what FA does before we can pick the draft. regardless of how we do it, areas we know we need to focus on include:

offense:
rb, wr, c, ot
backup qb if we just take a flyer.

defense:
cb, lb (always lb in a 3-4), ss

how it falls one way or another no one knows. i'd like to see RB, WR and CB taken care of in FA - using a #1 pick for a top flight WR.

 

[theebs]

in general, anticipating what we think will happen: (or i do anyway)
1. jones will be gone. no, parcells won't take him, but some team like chicago or the jaguars will. doesn't matter he won't do much there but slap the backside of a different OL colored jersey.

2. crayton will be resigned. cap going up. if we can afford to cut roy we can afford to sign home grown talent. regardless of his mouth at times.

3. ferguson will be gone. we simply don't need him, and he may wind up in miami as a stop gap measure. then again parcells is a bit higher up w/a different call. my guess is people will say what parcells will do based on what he used to do but he's not doing now what he did then - so things will change. long way of saying no to fergie for him also.

4. barber will be resigned.

we'll have to see what FA does before we can pick the draft. regardless of how we do it, areas we know we need to focus on include:

offense:
rb, wr, c, ot
backup qb if we just take a flyer.

defense:
cb, lb (always lb in a 3-4), ss

how it falls one way or another no one knows. i'd like to see RB, WR and CB taken care of in FA - using a #1 pick for a top flight WR.

yep, Honestly I think we are in such a good position with the draft that I hope jerry stays put and just takes the best players. right now we have 10 picks. If you hit on 6 of them and find one player who is outstanding then they did a good job.

for me it is all about continuing to surround romo with as much talent as possible, always try to upgrade. He didnt do that for aikman, the talent just dwindled away around a hall of famer from bad drafts.

So now jerry has a do over and I hope he just takes the best players. He is a friend of bill polian and really looks up to polian as he has said many times, he would be wise to approach the draft just like him!

and I really think we need to bring in two new backs, a vet and a rookie.

oh and I dont think parcells has any intrest in fergy, not at this point. they have enough old lineman there. they are going to be tearing down, like cutting porter and then trying to build.

 

[iceberg]

yep, Honestly I think we are in such a good position with the draft that I hope jerry stays put and just takes the best players. right now we have 10 picks. If you hit on 6 of them and find one player who is outstanding then they did a good job.

for me it is all about continuing to surround romo with as much talent as possible, always try to upgrade. He didnt do that for aikman, the talent just dwindled away around a hall of famer from bad drafts.

So now jerry has a do over and I hope he just takes the best players. He is a friend of bill polian and really looks up to polian as he has said many times, he would be wise to approach the draft just like him!

and I really think we need to bring in two new backs, a vet and a rookie.

let julius go, sign micheal turner. no he's not mcfadden, but he can get the job done and he's an upgrade. i'm more into balance than a shiney object that blinds at times.

talk like crazy to give AZ a #1 for fitzgerald.

from there it's just a matter of seeing who's where and who wants to be elsewhere. those are 2 priorities i'd glomp on.

 

[Daudr]

I can see us packaging both picks and Bobby Carpenter if and only if we could get Mcfadden. I think that's kid of pricey but the rumors have Jerry infatuated with Darren McFadden.

I'd really like to see a link that validates these "rumors." The ONLY place I have seen them are here with the several posters that drool over McFadden.

 

[theebs]

let julius go, sign micheal turner. no he's not mcfadden, but he can get the job done and he's an upgrade. i'm more into balance than a shiney object that blinds at times.

talk like crazy to give AZ a #1 for fitzgerald.

from there it's just a matter of seeing who's where and who wants to be elsewhere. those are 2 priorities i'd glomp on.

Micheal turner would be a tremendous get. It will be interesting to see what he gets, in some ways he will set julius price.

i dont think julius is back and I hope we dont trade any draft picks for any current players.

unless of course someone gives us a moss type player for a 4th round pick.....

With another good draft this organization could be set to win for a while. We are good and deep, to get younger and deeper would be the greatest thing we could do.

we are on the right track, having a player the caliber of spencer on the bench as a part time player is a unique opportunity and a tribute to the front office over the past 4 years.

 

[iceberg]

Micheal turner would be a tremendous get. It will be interesting to see what he gets, in some ways he will set julius price.

i dont think julius is back and I hope we dont trade any draft picks for any current players.

unless of course someone gives us a moss type player for a 4th round pick.....

With another good draft this organization could be set to win for a while. We are good and deep, to get younger and deeper would be the greatest thing we could do.

we are on the right track, having a player the caliber of spencer on the bench as a part time player is a unique opportunity and a tribute to the front office over the past 4 years.

i'd have to guess that turner will be more sought after than jones. a $4 mil a year avg over 4-5 years wouldn't be out of line. i don't think turner will go elsewhere on a short term contract. jones will be doing good to hit $2-$3 mil range on a backend he'll never see.

 

[theebs]

i'd have to guess that turner will be more sought after than jones. a $4 mil a year avg over 4-5 years wouldn't be out of line. i don't think turner will go elsewhere on a short term contract. jones will be doing good to hit $2-$3 mil range on a backend he'll never see.

jones might be more coveted than alot of us think, he hasnt worked out here but I bet he will get considerable intrest, not money but intrest.

I wonder if seattle would have interest in him. He pass protects very well and he is great catching the ball.

 

[NextGenBoys]

jones might be more coveted than alot of us think, he hasnt worked out here but I bet he will get considerable intrest, not money but intrest.

I wonder if seattle would have interest in him. He pass protects very well and he is great catching the ball.

I think Julius goes to Denver. He is a perfect fit in their scheme. He is bad for us, as his running style is not fit for our team, but for Denver I wouldnt be surprised to see him get 1400ish.

 

[tatommack]

i say we keep are picks and take a cb ss or rb

 

[CalCBFan]

i say we keep are picks and take a cb ss or rb

Amen! That guy Bradshaw playing for the Giants today, was a 7th rnd pick this year! And I don't think you have to take a WR 1 either. If we'd had a topflight 2ndary, we could have beaten the Pats this year. Look at what the Eagles did to them w/o any big name players.

I'm not totally against trades and FAs but our track record is spotted in these areas. Who would we have been better off with: Steven Jackson or Marcus Spears?

As far as trading 2 #1's plus more for McFadden, I don't think we are one player away from being as good as the Pats, who BTW, have a rapidly aging defense...

 

[Woods]

Right now I'd prefer we keep our two number 1 picks.

The more I think about it, I don't necessarily think we take a RB with one of our two 1st rounders.

If the coaching staff wants to make Barber the feature back, I don't really see us using a 1st rounder on a complementary back. By that I mean a running back who may only get the ball in his hands 10-12 times or so a game.

I think we could use the picks in Round 2-4 to accomplish that - if not FA. This appears to be a fairly deep draft for RBs as well (from what I've read, at least).

I think we'll end taking a CB and WR with our 1st rounders.

The reason I say CB is that the NFL continues to become more of an offense league versus a defensive league. Many of the recent rule changes favor the offense. And it seems increasingly so, a team needs at least 3 (if not 4) solid CBs for spread offenses, etc.

Looking at our team, we could definitely use another top flight CB as well, given Henry's recent injuries over the past couple of seasons, Reeves becoming a FA, etc.

As for WR, while a good one can be found and developed later in the draft, I think if a good one is there in Round 1, we will end up pulling the trigger.

TO is in his dirty 30s, Glenn's injury situation poses longer term problems, and we need to draft one now because unlike the RB position, it takes 2-3 years to develop WRs. I don't view guys like Crayton, Hurd, or Austin number 1 type WRs either.

I do realize that many GMs don't like to use Round 1 picks on WRs, but I don't believe JJ thinks that way.

 

[Hoofbite]

I'd really like to see a link that validates these "rumors." The ONLY place I have seen them are here with the several posters that drool over McFadden.

what good is a link that validates that something is a rumor anyway? Its no secret that its a Rumor.

Now, is the rumor true, who knows