Two first round picks. What do you do?

[big dog cowboy]

Nothing has changed my mind that we need to go WR and CB (in any order) in the first round. Free agency may change that but not likely.

 

[Taz]

I'd really like to see a link that validates these "rumors." The ONLY place I have seen them are here with the several posters that drool over McFadden.

jerry jones said we are getting a WOW player
there are only so many wow players
1.randy moss, unlikely we dissed him by not drafting him, not sure the orginal 81 and the non original 81 can both wear 81 for dallas
2.mcfadden-wow player in draft
3. rare trade for wow player-rwilliams from detriot


really you have no wow players in FA other than randy moss that is unlikely to come here

so you are left with trades and drafting.
I would like to see us draft mcfadden
or trade pick for roy williams and draft that other RB people talk about felix jones.
there is a thread that quotes jerry on the WOW player statement if you doubt it

 

[Taz]

I'm still trying to figure out why people think we need a RB in the first round. We need a WR and a CB in the first, we've already got a starting RB on our roster.

I can see how you can say we need a WR with glenn's age and injury and crayton wanting money

but we have two of the best CB teams in the league
tnew(probowler) shut down corner
and A henery - before injury he lead the league in number of interceptions
and the best third CB we have had since crappy #2 like edwards.

JJ is gone most think
marion isn't a featured back he cannot even carry the full load now.


franchise quality RB that can actual pas block( we are a passing team and marion sucks at this .. one reason JJ sees play)
Young WR not to start but to groom
a darren woodson quality safety
always need some good linemen

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think we should bundle all of our picks and take a chance on getting a pro-bowl back...

Oh wait we already have one!

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm still trying to figure out why people think we need a RB in the first round. We need a WR and a CB in the first, we've already got a starting RB on our roster.

I'll tell you why:

1. Julius Jones is a free agent, and he's likely to walk.

2. The league is a two-back league now. Teams like the 1-2 combo.

3. As much as we love Barber, what happens if he doesn't sign or if he signs and then gets hurt? Who do we have as a back up?

4. This is a running-back heavy draft.

5. A running back generally touches the ball more than any one receiver.

6. It's easier for running backs to merge into the line-up their first year than a receiver. It's going to take a wide receiver longer to crack the line up. Look who is going to be in front of him ... T.O. Terry Glenn (assuming he comes back another year), Patrick Crayton, Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, Isaiah Stanback. Even if we get a receiver that is talented, he still has to learn the offense, and I doubt he's going to be better than those guys in front of him. Why not take a receiver in the second or third round considering all that?

7. Who exactly is first-round worthy at receiver in this draft, especially where the Cowboys are drafting? Last I checke, there weren't any Calvin Johnsons or Roy Williams or Larry Fitzgeralds or Braylon Edwards in this draft.

That's why I say draft a running back. As we've seen with Larry Johnson and Deuce McAlister and now Willie Parker, a team best have a backup who can fill in if their starter goes down.

Hope this answers your question.

 

[pompano]

One top filight receiver and a ball hawking safety..

 

[Sandyf]

I see things a little bit different and I base most of it on Jerry Jones and really some on Bill Parcells.

1. Jerry is a wow guy both in free agency and in the draft but he learned from Parcells more is better unless it gets you the player that fits your system.

2. WR take longer to get there than any other position as for as NFL ready, so I believe Wade Phillips on no WR in the first round. Besides TO is back, Glenn will be back, we will resign Crayton and Hurd, Austin and Stanback are no slouches. Plus read 4.

3. Free agency is where Jones will make a splash. We will be at least 25 to 28 million under the cap after the season is over and that is without releasing anyone. We will resign Crayton, Reeves (if price is right), Flozell and Hamlin. Barber and Canty will get the 1st rd and 3rd rd tenders and expect both to sign longer term deals. Canty similar to Ratliff contract and Barber something like a Willie Parker deal. Hamlin will cost more but I don't believe it to be unreasonable.

As for as UFAs of other teams, Jerry will want a top guy at say either CB or DE or WR. Forget WR, not really any WOW guy there. CB has Marcus Trufant and Asante Samuels. Samuels will not be franchised but Trufant might be. DE has Jared Allen and Terrel Suggs (who also can play OLB in the 3-4). Trufant, Allen and Suggs will all only be 25 years old, so bet on one or two of them.

4. If we go for a WR, I would bet Roy Williams out of Detroit. It could be a 1st round pick but I seriously doubt it and McMillen has stated there will be changes on the offense so I expect Williams to be traded. It could cost us just a Roy Williams and Bobby Carpenter who McMillen is said to covet plus I can see our Roy being traded if we sign Hamlin and either Trufant or Samuels because Hamlin can play SS and Henry could move to FS.

5. Parcells!! Bet the farm we will make some type of trade or trades with him. I can easily see Jason Ferguson and a couple of others becoming Miami Dolphins once Parcells trades the number 1 pick overall for several picks. Wouldn't be suprised to see Marcus Spears and Carpenter and/or McQuistan end up there.

6. As much as everyone speculates that Jerry is in love with McFadden, I really think it is more Felix Jones than McFadden. And you can bet Phillips would rather have Long at DE. Will be interesting draft day.

 

[jterrell]

What's the story on his knee injury? Will it drop his stock?

The only question re his knee is if he can go full speed for his 40 times. If he can't then he drops to round 2 imho; but of course they are saying he'll be running fine by the combine.

He was the 2nd best WR I saw this year after Mike Crabtree.

 

[jterrell]

I see things a little bit different and I base most of it on Jerry Jones and really some on Bill Parcells.

1. Jerry is a wow guy both in free agency and in the draft but he learned from Parcells more is better unless it gets you the player that fits your system.

2. WR take longer to get there than any other position as for as NFL ready, so I believe Wade Phillips on no WR in the first round. Besides TO is back, Glenn will be back, we will resign Crayton and Hurd, Austin and Stanback are no slouches. Plus read 4.

3. Free agency is where Jones will make a splash. We will be at least 25 to 28 million under the cap after the season is over and that is without releasing anyone. We will resign Crayton, Reeves (if price is right), Flozell and Hamlin. Barber and Canty will get the 1st rd and 3rd rd tenders and expect both to sign longer term deals. Canty similar to Ratliff contract and Barber something like a Willie Parker deal. Hamlin will cost more but I don't believe it to be unreasonable.

As for as UFAs of other teams, Jerry will want a top guy at say either CB or DE or WR. Forget WR, not really any WOW guy there. CB has Marcus Trufant and Asante Samuels. Samuels will not be franchised but Trufant might be. DE has Jared Allen and Terrel Suggs (who also can play OLB in the 3-4). Trufant, Allen and Suggs will all only be 25 years old, so bet on one or two of them.

4. If we go for a WR, I would bet Roy Williams out of Detroit. It could be a 1st round pick but I seriously doubt it and McMillen has stated there will be changes on the offense so I expect Williams to be traded. It could cost us just a Roy Williams and Bobby Carpenter who McMillen is said to covet plus I can see our Roy being traded if we sign Hamlin and either Trufant or Samuels because Hamlin can play SS and Henry could move to FS.

5. Parcells!! Bet the farm we will make some type of trade or trades with him. I can easily see Jason Ferguson and a couple of others becoming Miami Dolphins once Parcells trades the number 1 pick overall for several picks. Wouldn't be suprised to see Marcus Spears and Carpenter and/or McQuistan end up there.

6. As much as everyone speculates that Jerry is in love with McFadden, I really think it is more Felix Jones than McFadden. And you can bet Phillips would rather have Long at DE. Will be interesting draft day.

We will be 10-15 mil under the cap after re-signing our priority guys.
Unless we let Flo walk you can forget those expensive dream list guys.

Marcus Spears would rather roof houses than play football for Bill Parcells again. He might be the most vocal critic of BP.

We are never, ever, any way possible drafting top 5. period, end of story, do not even dream of it.

I do think Fergie could end up with BP but only for a 4th rounder, BP isn't dumb.

BP will target our FA's and the guy he'd most want is very likely Marion Barber, but the Dolphins suck too bad to give u the 1st and 3rd for him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

1. Julius Jones is a free agent, and he's likely to walk.

He might have a few hands on his back helping to push him out the door.

 

[Natedawg44]

Heck I wouldn't mind CB and turning around and taking another CB. It won't happen though.
I really don't want us to sign Crayton and Hamlin especially if it means we can't sign Barber or Canty. Remember we have Ware and Newman coming up as well.
I think we have to decide what is a need and what is a luxury. Crayton and Hamlin are luxuries at this point. Canty and Barber are not.

BTW did anyone catch Chris Johnson from ECU yesterday. WOW!

 

[Natedawg44]

We will be 10-15 mil under the cap after re-signing our priority guys.
Unless we let Flo walk you can forget those expensive dream list guys.

Marcus Spears would rather roof houses than play football for Bill Parcells again. He might be the most vocal critic of BP.

We are never, ever, any way possible drafting top 5. period, end of story, do not even dream of it.

I do think Fergie could end up with BP but only for a 4th rounder, BP isn't dumb.

BP will target our FA's and the guy he'd most want is very likely Marion Barber, but the Dolphins suck too bad to give u the 1st and 3rd for him.

I think you are right on JT, What do you think about Flo- Franchise? Its hard to let a pro bowl LT on a number 1 seed walk in the offseason and turn it loose to a couple of unproven guys.

 

[Nors]

big kicker is who do we sign in FA going into draft.

I'm a BPA advocate. I'd probably go DT/CB and RB with the 1's and pluck a WR in 2nd. 3rd to 4th I'm looking at ILB and TE.

 

[Natedawg44]

big kicker is who do we sign in FA going into draft.

I'm a BPA advocate. I'd probably go DT/CB and RB with the 1's and pluck a WR in 2nd. 3rd to 4th I'm looking at ILB and TE.

I wouldn't mind that. I also wouldn't mind us looking at a safety in rounds 4 or 5. Maybe someone like FS/CB DJ Wolfe from Oklahoma.

 

[CF74]

We need more LB's!!!

RB & CB, anything else would be a waste of picks IMO...

 

[cowboyz]

Heck I wouldn't mind CB and turning around and taking another CB. It won't happen though.
I really don't want us to sign Crayton and Hamlin especially if it means we can't sign Barber or Canty. Remember we have Ware and Newman coming up as well.
I think we have to decide what is a need and what is a luxury. Crayton and Hamlin are luxuries at this point. Canty and Barber are not.

BTW did anyone catch Chris Johnson from ECU yesterday. WOW!

i agree

i'd also throw flozell into the mix as being more important than hamlin and crayton.

 

[Nexx]

for the love of god, if they offer roy williams for bobby carpenter... i would really and honestly believe, God loves the Cowboys

 

[CowboyBlog]

I'm not sure TO will ever retire. I believe he will be in great shape for another 10 years.

 

[Lostboy]

Pick 20 WR- James Hardy or CB-Aquib Talib

Pick 32 CB- Jenkins (USF) or WR- Early Doucet

Pick 32 (rd. 2) RB Jamal Charles or Kevin Smith (UCF) NCAA rushing yards leader...........(next E. Smith)

may be a pipe dream to get three of these six guys but maybe not........

 

[Kolemmitt]

for the love of god, if they offer roy williams for bobby carpenter... i would really and honestly believe, God loves the Cowboys

No way that happens. Maybe Carp and our 2nd. I would go for that in a heartbeat. We could still go CB and RB in round 1.
Imagine Cason, F. Jones, and Roy Williams to what we already have. Ahhhhh. Talk about a nice dream.