CFZ Two Issues About Eagles Game That Needs Explaining

erod

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I KNOW the difference, apparently you do not.
Week 6 in a game with our backup QB behind one game in the standings.

Versus.

Week 16 against their backup QB with the division already decided.

Massive difference.

The divisional round awaits if we can get through Tampa, and San Fran and Minny hold serve.
 

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Two issues that I can't quite wrap my head around in regard to the excuses, or alibis being made about the Eagles win.

1. Dak Prescott threw for over 300 yards in the game. He is the only QB to throw for over 300 yards against the Eagles this season. Kyler Murray is the next QB on the list at 250 yards.

2. The Eagles have the second best defense in the league. The same defense that gave up 300 yards and 40 points to Dak. After being spotted 10 points in the first quarter.

Now some may make the case the Eagles were missing players on their vaunted defense. But the laundry list of Cowboys who are on the walking wounded list is fairly significant, as well.

Hurts is a phenomenal player when he runs. That makes the RPO deadly. But the Dallas offense put up 40 points, and with a small bit of luck could have pushed that to 44 or more.

In both games this season, one team had their starting QB out for the game. The team with their starter won the game.

In the case of the Eagles, they still had the number two defense on the field. And yet the Dallas offense won the game. Even with the Eagles offense - who still had all their skill players but Hurts - put up 28 points.

If health is not a factor, why should the Cowboys fear the Eagles in a head to head rematch in the playoffs?
I think the X factor in games between these two teams boils down to turnovers and mistakes. Whether that’s execution or play calling.

Maybe I’m in the minority but before Brown went down, and we lost Steele, Dallas had a better, deeper, more talented roster overall than the Eagles.

The problem for Dallas is that the area on the Eagles team which arguably have more talent than the Cowboys is the trenches on both sides of the ball. (Pass rush excepted).

Philly is not all that dominant but they have very dominant lines. Philly doesn’t make a lot of mistakes. Dallas is prone to have more mistakes.
 

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Two issues that I can't quite wrap my head around in regard to the excuses, or alibis being made about the Eagles win.

1. Dak Prescott threw for over 300 yards in the game. He is the only QB to throw for over 300 yards against the Eagles this season. Kyler Murray is the next QB on the list at 250 yards.

2. The Eagles have the second best defense in the league. The same defense that gave up 300 yards and 40 points to Dak. After being spotted 10 points in the first quarter.

Now some may make the case the Eagles were missing players on their vaunted defense. But the laundry list of Cowboys who are on the walking wounded list is fairly significant, as well.

Hurts is a phenomenal player when he runs. That makes the RPO deadly. But the Dallas offense put up 40 points, and with a small bit of luck could have pushed that to 44 or more.

In both games this season, one team had their starting QB out for the game. The team with their starter won the game.

In the case of the Eagles, they still had the number two defense on the field. And yet the Dallas offense won the game. Even with the Eagles offense - who still had all their skill players but Hurts - put up 28 points.

If health is not a factor, why should the Cowboys fear the Eagles in a head to head rematch in the playoffs?
Fear has nothing to do with it. Hurts gives them the ability to better control time of possession and to an extent limit the time their defense is on the field and thus our offense. Basically what they did in that long sustained drive in the first game. Demoralizing to the opposition!
 

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Week 6 in a game with our backup QB behind one game in the standings.

Versus.

Week 16 against their backup QB with the division already decided.

Massive difference.

The divisional round awaits if we can get through Tampa, and San Fran and Minny hold serve.

The division has not been decided. I don't know where you learned math at, or logic, but the way I learned it, it has not been decided.
 

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If the 9ers didn't get the turnovers in the NFC Championship game in 1994, Dallas would have gone back to back and won four straight.

See how what if works?
Not so much a "what if" but a "what usually happens when you win the turnover battle." We won. I don't care how we did it.
 

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Fear?

Likely they shouldn’t. But it’s different playing Hurts versus Minshew. Second, the game would be up in Philly and who knows how weather would be a factor.

We’d definitely be an underdog in any rematch.

Hurts was mediocre in that first game. Minshew actually made throws that Jalen wouldn't have made against us. Hurts is okay but he is very beatable. He has really prospered with a weak schedule and looked rather ordinary against Washington, Chicago, Houston, Detroit and Indy. Could have lost all those games.
 

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Do you really not get that he said that intentionally?
he is an idiot. he most probably missed it.

and what relevance does that have to anything....he pooped his pants. then the poop ran down his pants in his next post, then down on his shoes and then he stepped in it. now he wants to create a meaningless distraction so no one sees he is walking around in his own poop......stinking up the joint....but rather enjoyable to watch him squirm....I bet he is trying really hard to figure out his next post and come up with something clever....but with this post, he may decide not to (which is what I am trying to make him do....or not ;))
 

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Two issues that I can't quite wrap my head around in regard to the excuses, or alibis being made about the Eagles win.

1. Dak Prescott threw for over 300 yards in the game. He is the only QB to throw for over 300 yards against the Eagles this season. Kyler Murray is the next QB on the list at 250 yards.

2. The Eagles have the second best defense in the league. The same defense that gave up 300 yards and 40 points to Dak. After being spotted 10 points in the first quarter.

Now some may make the case the Eagles were missing players on their vaunted defense. But the laundry list of Cowboys who are on the walking wounded list is fairly significant, as well.

Hurts is a phenomenal player when he runs. That makes the RPO deadly. But the Dallas offense put up 40 points, and with a small bit of luck could have pushed that to 44 or more.

In both games this season, one team had their starting QB out for the game. The team with their starter won the game.

In the case of the Eagles, they still had the number two defense on the field. And yet the Dallas offense won the game. Even with the Eagles offense - who still had all their skill players but Hurts - put up 28 points.

If health is not a factor, why should the Cowboys fear the Eagles in a head to head rematch in the playoffs?
Biggest fear is defending the rpo when Hurts returns. There was no threat this week from their QB, totally different when Hurts is playing. Also, Hurts has done a great job protecting the football this season
 

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Hurts was mediocre in that first game. Minshew actually made throws that Jalen wouldn't have made against us. Hurts is okay but he is very beatable. He has really prospered with a weak schedule and looked rather ordinary against Washington, Chicago, Houston, Detroit and Indy. Could have lost all those games.

Hurts is better than Minshew. Let's not try to rationalize that.
 

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If Hurts pays we lose, you are underappreciating the impact of Hurts' ability to run on the overall game, It increases their ability to milk the clock which gives the opposing offense less time which is a big part of the reason why the Eagles have not allowed other offenses to be successful.

The big concern coming out of this game for me is that the defense gave up 34 points to Gardner Minshew, Would probably be close to a 50 burger if Hurts was in there. The defense is like swiss cheese, they are not good against the run or the pass anymore.
 

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If Hurts pays we lose, you are underappreciating the impact of Hurts' ability to run on the overall game, It increases their ability to milk the clock which gives the opposing offense less time which is a big part of the reason why the Eagles have not allowed other offenses to be successful.

The big concern coming out of this game for me is that the defense gave up 34 points to Gardner Minshew, Would probably be close to a 50 burger if Hurts was in there. The defense is like swiss cheese, they are not good against the run or the pass anymore.
the eagles have only beat dak twice since 2016, Facts

we also beat Hurts last year with 40 burger..i know different year but you are under estimating Daks influnce.. we lose like automatic LMAO :muttley: Hurts just has to show up:facepalm:

heck the cowboys made a valiant comeback attempt week 6 with rush throwing 3 ints made it 3-point game late with hurts, with Hurts scored what 26 points, I still say its a very close game could go either way.
 

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the eagles have only beat dak twice since 2016, Facts

we also beat Hurts last year with 40 burger..i know different year but you are under estimating Daks influnce.. we lose like automatic LMAO :muttley: Hurts just has to show up:facepalm:

heck the cowboys made a valiant comeback attempt week 6 with rush throwing 3 ints made it 3-point game late with hurts, with Hurts scored what 26 points, I still say its a very close game could go either way.
Hurts has been much better than last season, there really isn't a comparison. Our defense isn't playing anything like they were in Week 6 they just gave up 34 points to Minshew. If we even get past the wild-card game it won't be particularly close. Also, if we lose the fumble in the 4th quarter we lose that game Saturday it's not like we did anything convincing against a team missing their best player who also plays the most important position.

Also, Dak doesn't have nearly the impact as a player like Hurts who can run and pass like he does. Hurts has a 4:1 TD INT ratio this year, Dak isn't even 2:1.
 

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This was basically an exhibition game for them.

Philly already has effectively wrapped up everything. The division, the No. 1 seed in the playoffs, home field. Dallas had more to play for.

The Eagles were missing key players, including the QB, then lost more of them early in the game.

And if Tyler Biadasz doesn't rip away that Dak fumble, the Eagles still clinch the formality last Sunday.

Philly will beat New Orleans Sunday and have two weeks to rest up for Dallas in the second round.

Then the real game happens between these two.
This was not an exhibition game. Home field throughout the playoffs has not been wrapped up!
Of course they wanted to win this game to wrap up home field!! Of course they wanted to show the league they are the best team.They did not!
 

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This was not an exhibition game. Home field throughout the playoffs has not been wrapped up!
Of course they wanted to win this game to wrap up home field!! Of course they wanted to show the league they are the best team.They did not!
Technically no, but they're not dropping two home games against garbage teams, and they know it.

Thanks to Green Bay and Jax, they have nothing left to play for.
 

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Hurts has been much better than last season, there really isn't a comparison. Our defense isn't playing anything like they were in Week 6 they just gave up 34 points to Minshew. If we even get past the wild-card game it won't be particularly close. Also, if we lose the fumble in the 4th quarter we lose that game Saturday it's not like we did anything convincing against a team missing their best player who also plays the most important position.

Also, Dak doesn't have nearly the impact as a player like Hurts who can run and pass like he does. Hurts has a 4:1 TD INT ratio this year, Dak isn't even 2:1.
sorry disagree, move on.
 

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Hurts has been much better than last season, there really isn't a comparison. Our defense isn't playing anything like they were in Week 6 they just gave up 34 points to Minshew. If we even get past the wild-card game it won't be particularly close. Also, if we lose the fumble in the 4th quarter we lose that game Saturday it's not like we did anything convincing against a team missing their best player who also plays the most important position.

Also, Dak doesn't have nearly the impact as a player like Hurts who can run and pass like he does. Hurts has a 4:1 TD INT ratio this year, Dak isn't even 2:1.
Yet we are not playing the eagles for 3 plus weeks so again move on wont matter wall game different week to week league, TEAM game.. just lie the week 6 cowboys are different then now the eagles d is starting to crack and Lane is out, they lost a few players Saturday, injuries affected us and will affect them, we are getting back LVE and Hankins, will have the CB issues at least settled, Parsons will get some rest to make sure hes ready.

heck 3-4 weeks from now you are predicting if hurts walk on the field its over? lmao..whatever troll.
 
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