Two premier NT's will be available in FA

You guys can't be serious if you expect teams will sign a 33 year old to big money. That is ridiculous.
 
Alexander;3112123 said:
The only rational thought is that if Spears departs, we'll need a quality defensive end. Otherwise, it is nonsense. Each year, there is a spell where Ratliff doesn't dominate and suddenly the idea he'd be a better end pops up. Repeat it enough, it starts to become gospel truth.

Although Ratliff would be an upgrade, you don't move a Pro Bowler just to do it. It is like taking a Pro Bowl quality guard and moving him to tackle.

I don't think we'd bother.
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First of all Spears leaving is part of the equation. Secondly, Rat will still play NT in some situations. Thirdly, we have packages right now in which Rat plays DE, and plays it well.
 
TheRat;3112129 said:
First of all Spears leaving is part of the equation. Secondly, Rat will still play NT in some situations. Thirdly, we have packages right now in which Rat plays DE, and plays it well.
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You still don't yank him around in "some situations".

If we spent the money on a Hampton or Wilfork, there would be very little reason to move him around.
 
Alexander;3112131 said:
You still don't yank him around in "some situations".

If we spent the money on a Hampton or Wilfork, there would be very little reason to move him around.
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Are you talking about Hampton? Well you would yank him in passing situations, and especially on the nickel. I can't imagine us or any team putting Hampton in their nickel packages.

Plus, when players reach Hampton's age teams rarely spend a lot of money on them. So money is not going to be much of a concern in his case.
 
TheRat;3112129 said:
First of all Spears leaving is part of the equation. Secondly, Rat will still play NT in some situations. Thirdly, we have packages right now in which Rat plays DE, and plays it well.
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And in those packages either Spencer are Ware play the opposite side DE on a three man line. That doesn't mane they should be 3-4 DEs.
 
I would love Wilfolk. The guy is a beast. Spend FA money on him and move Ratliff outside. Spears is JAG and will still want big money.
 
All of this moving Ratliff to end talk is starting to remind me of the talk of moving Leon Lett to end in the 90's.

Why move a good to elite player at one position to another? There's no guarantee that you will be able to replace what Ratliff gives you on the nose.

Keep Ratliff where he is, draft a plugger to back him up, and if Spears can't be resigned for reasonable money, look at the FA market for a run stopping end.
 
TheRat;3112032 said:
They are Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, who seems upset by the Patriots lack of interest in resigning him.

Of the two I think Casey Hampton would be the best fit for two reasons. One, he'll be turning 33 before next season and will be demanding significantly less money. Two, Hampton also won't be demanding as much playing time, so we can use him on a situational basis. That way Wade can move Rat from NT to DE and vice versa freely throughout the game without being forced to give Hampton more playing time based on his contract (ahem Roy).
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ratliff is kicking arse and taking names.

leave him alone and find something else to jack with on the team.
 
I would rather have Seymour of the Raiders if Spears leaves. He will be a FA next year if there is a CBA. Although, the Raiders would probably franchise him. Then again, it is Al Davis.

I'd leave Rat at NT with Seymour at end. But Seymour would want serious coin, maybe too much.
 
Don't go sign a 33 y.o. player at this point and time. We need to focus on the draft in coming years to build for the future and replace old guys. We have enough old guys already. Get younger and more talented players in the draft!!!

This is a young man's game. I bet you can track success with the age of the team over time and see that good young talent will win in most situations. The teams that get older are middle of the pack at best (maybe a few exceptions).
 
Rat is set at NT and he has said asmuch that he prefers to stay there.case closed.
 
I have to go w/ the majority on this one...moving Rat would be foolish being as he's one of the BEST currently playing his position! If Spears pulls a Canty and chases the big $$$, I think we have adequate replacements in-house w/ Bowen & Hatcher (who could platoon @ the DE position).
 
I personally like siavii and when/where he comes in now. sure hes no superstar but hes playing well enough when rat needs a quick break or in certain situations. and were getting him for dirt cheap.
 
Anyone want to bet that Wilfork as a cowboy would be the most penalized DL in the game? Unless he's cleaned up this year his standard move was diving at the QBs knees. As a Pat you can probably get away with it, as a Cowboy you would be giving up a 15 yard flag every single play you get near the QB. Hampton is somewhat tempting, but I think finding a downgrade or lateral move for Ratliff is a questionable use of funds at the best.
 
the only plays Vince Wilfork made last night were 3-4 yards downfield. Not acceptable for a DT that big. He played very soft last night.
 
People are borderline ********, why are we trying to replace a freaking PRO BOWL NT? What the **** else does Ratliff have to do to get some respect in Cowboysland?
 
TheRat;3112032 said:
They are Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, who seems upset by the Patriots lack of interest in resigning him.

Of the two I think Casey Hampton would be the best fit for two reasons. One, he'll be turning 33 before next season and will be demanding significantly less money. Two, Hampton also won't be demanding as much playing time, so we can use him on a situational basis. That way Wade can move Rat from NT to DE and vice versa freely throughout the game without being forced to give Hampton more playing time based on his contract (ahem Roy).
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we already have a premier NT...and he isnt too fat or too old
 
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