Tyler Guyton will be a bust

Whyjerry said:
It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

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Mazi and Schoonmaker too. Jerry is really stinking things up in these NFL drafts. Passing on Watt and Chris Jones. Lol
The whole scouting dept and war room need to be fired.
 
Going back to Tyron Smith, who was an athletic freak and higher potential/talent coming out of USC they allowed him to play at Right Tackle his rookie year. The position he played at USC his last year there.
Even with Doug Free showing he wasn't the answer at Left Tackle.
When Smith went to Left tackle, he wasn't a stud right away.

This front office expecting Guyton to be an answer at LT in the first two years of his career reeks of arrogance or stupidity.

Just hope those rumors about his drive(BB) aren't true.
 
Whyjerry said:
It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

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The decision to not put his butt down when claiming the ball after giving up the strip fumble was beyond brainless. You can't give someone a brain and in reality if he wasn't a first round pick then many teams that hold players accountable would cut him. The standard is the standard.

Bust.
 
He looks like RT to me.

A lot of players come into the league and don't appreciate the price you have to pay to become a good player. He has all the tools to be at least decent, whether or not he has the heart remains to be seen. Early returns are not promising.
 
Hadenough said:
Mazi and Schoonmaker too. Jerry is really stinking things up in these NFL drafts. Passing on Watt and Chris Jones. Lol
The whole scouting dept and war room need to be fired.
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William Maclay should not be fired. All he can do is give his recommendation, he can’t help who the GM takes.
 
I am feeling the same way about Guyton. I don't want to give up on him. I think he needs to get stronger and an offseason will help, but he looks really shaky out there.

As for Mazi. It's amazing how much attention he gets from fans. But I think he is improving. you have to watch him and compare him to other DTs. Every now and then he shows some signs he is coming around. He is still not very good, but he is getting better. I was watching him and Linval Joseph last night and if you want to find a DT that looks really bad, keep an eye on Joseph. He was awful last night.

To be clear, I am not suggesting Mazi will be worth his first round selection, but I do think he is improving. Next year will be his year to show he can play.
 
Do I think Guyton is a bust...NO....but I did mention when he was drafted that he was RAW and probably better served sitting and watching for a year who is probably better suited as a right tackle in the NFL than a left tackle.
 
Whyjerry said:
It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.
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Y'all need to calm down. It was known Guyton would be a project. There were serious questions as to whether he would be starting day 1. He was a RT in college, yes for a left handed QB but he was still a RT. The guy is raw. He has the measurables though. A year in the weight room, with an NFL level of nutrition, and hopefully we get a competent Oline coach in here and he should grow by leaps and bounds come next season. Not everyone is going to be a day 1 HoF'er like Beebe.
 
Whyjerry said:
It’s early I know but TG has all the traits of a bust. It seems like all the negatives coming out of college were true and he brought them all to the NFL. Mentally he is weak and immature and that will never work in the NFL at tackle. I haven’t given up on Mazi but Guyton looks like a big mistake.

Talk me down.
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I don't need to talk you down you need to sit yourself down we're talking about a guy who's played half a season trying to play the hardest position on the field it's arguable and debatable but going to left tackle out of college raw I've seen good flashes and I don't think he's gonna be a bust at worst you demote Terrence Steele at right tackle to be your backup you know your swing tackle and you move guy in over there next year not a big deal the man was taking late in the first round again do we have to talk to people about when the Dallas Cowboys are winning 12 games a year and you're picking in the bottom 10 every draft it's like he was the second round pick that's the way you have to look at it.

In my opinion he worked really hard in training camp he looked like he was working hard in preseason he's doing what he can he has all the tools it's the size he just needs the work the reps he needs to be on the field and the rest of this year is gonna fix that but anybody who calls any draft pick a bust 10 games into their career the problem is you're a bust as a fan you're busted your whole mentality is busted everybody has somehow told you if people don't look good their rookie year they're automatically no good...., and I say that's the worst mindset anybody can have and thank God coaches and GM's don't do that my guy we might as well cut the guy right now put the mask on the street he looks nothing like Mazi,Mazi is getting manhandled on every play he's out of place guyton's playing the toughest position in football he gets all the speed rushers he's out on an island, If people notice he's not playing well IE Mazi lost in the wash , that is bad but Guyton is there on the edge going against the best every play..

It's called growing pains I believe he'll grow into it and again like I said it's worse he moves to right tackle he becomes our new Lcollins we can work with that.. Yes the pre injury right tackle Collins looked really good until he mentally collapsed I don't see that in guyton he has the same look and feel to me as as a player like I said LCollins before he got hurt..

I'd be more concerned with a guy who got a huge contract at right tackle and is not playing well equally playing as bad as a rookie that should be where are the stain comes from what are we gonna do with 10 steel he never recovered from the injury much like Lael Collins never was the same.. So I wouldn't worry at all he has an entire rest of this season to get more playing time and reps and learn and by the way let me add something I didn't say up there you didn't realize that this offensive line coach this coaching staff you seen what they do to these other players I mean can you tell me that Turpin this whole time could be doing things like he did last night and a little bit larger scale and they just are refusing to use one of our fastest guys in space finding a scheme to make him better and yet they stuff him on special teams there's guys all over this roster like that this is a bad coaching staff they seem to either you have the talent and they play you or they just leave you hanging out on an island and getting exposed without getting you help...

So let me remind you maybe this offseason with a better coaching staff a better scheme I think some of these players will look a lot better than they have.
 
I think it’s obvious he’s playing out of position. Move him where he needs to be.
 
CowboysRule said:
Y'all need to calm down. It was known Guyton would be a project. There were serious questions as to whether he would be starting day 1. He was a RT in college, yes for a left handed QB but he was still a RT. The guy is raw. He has the measurables though. A year in the weight room, with an NFL level of nutrition, and hopefully we get a competent Oline coach in here and he should grow by leaps and bounds come next season. Not everyone is going to be a day 1 HoF'er like Beebe.
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:hammer:That goes for everyone from this draft expecting 10 games in that they look like a bust or not like you gotta make a choice right now this dude reminds me of Leo Collins but he's playing a tougher position pre injury and no he doesn't have the off the field issues which is good he doesn't have the mental issues I'm just saying physically this is Collins 2.0 he probably should be at right tackle this guy trying to adjust to left tackle with this offensive staff this coaching staff is just terrible... People fail to mention that so I wanna mention it they're not helping any of our players there are guys that should've been playing all year at certain positions starting like Rico and Turpin and they're hanging guys out the dry last year it was 100 and all of a sudden this year too what happened to hunter?

If some of these players were on the better teams like the 49ers and I know they're having a down year record wide I'm just saying we're creative Reid types they'd be a lot more successful this coaching staff right now this year has been an anchor to this team but ever since Mike took over the play calling this gotta be one of the worst offenses I've ever seen and it's regressing I think that team last year the league didn't know what they were gonna get but once they broke it down that more the year went on the more they started to look at how easy it was to defend and neutralize..

So yes everyone in here using common sense now you just add the coaching aspect a better staff a better offensive line coach a better scheme and I think these players are all of a sudden next year they're gonna look a whole lot better case in point look at the San Diego Chargers I mean look how fast the Texans look like they turned around it just takes a really good coaching staff sometimes you could take the same players and all of a sudden they look like they're playing on another level Herbert looks like a different player with Harbaugh...
 
ncelkins1 said:
I think it’s obvious he’s playing out of position. Move him where he needs to be.
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no i don't think you need to move him YET, thats your parachute move, the dude's not even 10 games in a rookie season and wish the whole team's not playing well..Yes BU plan move to RT but lets watch 7 more games another offseaosn a new staff and than judge him..
 
He needs strength. A year or two in the weight room would do him a world of good. I wouldn’t give up on him yet as a LT.
 
No idea if he is a bust or not, but the real issue is that the cowboys rely on the draft to get talent. Have a couple down years the team is toast. The last two first rounders look shaky at best now. A couple seasons of misses and the team is in trouble without some FA.
 
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