Tyler Smith physically similar to Larry Allen

[xwalker]

Tyler Smith is the closest OL that I've seen to Larry Allen in terms of power and athleticism.

He has LT athleticism with the power of a mauling gap-scheme OG.

He is completely raw with no technique.

He had penalty issues in college, about half of which were due to pancake blocks.

If he had played OG only in college and if he had SEC type coaching, he would be projected to the top half of the 1st. Lack of technique would have been OK at OG but even the very most athletic OL have to have some technique at LT. He was small school but they played Ohio State and other much bigger colleges.

 

[Gaede]

I agree with comp. Haven't seen someone just destroy ppl like him.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Tyler Smith is the closest OL that I've seen to Larry Allen in terms of power and athleticism.

He has LT athleticism with the power of a mauling gap-scheme OG.

He is completely raw with no technique.

He had penalty issues in college, about half of which were due to pancake blocks.

If he had played OG only in college and if he had SEC type coaching, he would be projected to the top half of the 1st. Lack of technique would have been OK at OG but even the very most athletic OL have to have some technique at LT. He was small school but they played Ohio State and other much bigger colleges.

I am actually ok with him at 24. Ya might get Conner Williams in 2022, but he has legitimate LT potential. He could be as good an LT as Cross in 3 years

 

[baltcowboy]

Tyler Smith is the closest OL that I've seen to Larry Allen in terms of power and athleticism.

He has LT athleticism with the power of a mauling gap-scheme OG.

He is completely raw with no technique.

He had penalty issues in college, about half of which were due to pancake blocks.

If he had played OG only in college and if he had SEC type coaching, he would be projected to the top half of the 1st. Lack of technique would have been OK at OG but even the very most athletic OL have to have some technique at LT. He was small school but they played Ohio State and other much bigger colleges.

The question is can the Cowboys turn him into a serviceable guard by opening day. In two seasons he could develop into our best offensive lineman. Sign me up.

 

[locked&loaded]

Interestingly enough, within Bob Mcginns draft article where he speaks with gms and scouts, Kenyon Green was specifically compared to Larry allen by one scout.

This is Tyler smith's writeup:

5. TYLER SMITH, Tulsa (6-4 ½, 327, 5.04, 1-2): Another third-year sophomore. Started two of four games as a true freshman before redshirting. “Natural left tackle,” said one scout. ”This guy can pull and trap. Great technician. He can bend his knees and move his feet and slide. He was 21 on April 3. At the second level he was totally amazing. About as tough a guy as I saw. I don’t know how Tulsa got him. Only thing I didn’t like: he wants to hurt people. Sometimes when they do that, they get holding penalties (12 in 2021). He just smashes guys down and officials call a hold.” His high school in Fort Worth was small and fielded losing teams, reducing his exposure and college offers. “When you have the toughness he plays with and his makeup, there’s not an offensive line coach that would not want to work with him,” said a second scout. “He might have more upside than all these guys. You’re getting a really good athlete that can play guard or tackle. He’s long (34 arms). He’s a violent player. It’s hard for those guys to fail, but he has to clean up a lot of stuff from a fundamental standpoint. If you moved him to defense you’d be talking about a high-end nose tackle.” Made 21 starts at LT. Wonderlic of 30. “He’s a left tackle but I thought he was a long, long ways away,” said a third scout. “He’s just so out of control and so raw. Just sloppy. The big guy tries but the technique’s way off. He lunges, he’s top-heavy. I don’t see the top athletic ability that some others may see.”

 

[chicago JK]

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Tyler Smith is the closest OL that I've seen to Larry Allen in terms of power and athleticism.

He has LT athleticism with the power of a mauling gap-scheme OG.

He is completely raw with no technique.

He had penalty issues in college, about half of which were due to pancake blocks.

If he had played OG only in college and if he had SEC type coaching, he would be projected to the top half of the 1st. Lack of technique would have been OK at OG but even the very most athletic OL have to have some technique at LT. He was small school but they played Ohio State and other much bigger colleges.

there are others stronger than Allen, but they are not football players, which are highly skilled. what's concerning is you say he is raw, which makes him a project and nothing more than a 6th round pick.

 

[RS12]

This team can't afford a first round bust. I think they have their eyes on Cross if the opportunity presents itself. Huge bust potential here IMO.

 

[Cowboyny]

Tyler Smith is the closest OL that I've seen to Larry Allen in terms of power and athleticism.

He has LT athleticism with the power of a mauling gap-scheme OG.

He is completely raw with no technique.

He had penalty issues in college, about half of which were due to pancake blocks.

If he had played OG only in college and if he had SEC type coaching, he would be projected to the top half of the 1st. Lack of technique would have been OK at OG but even the very most athletic OL have to have some technique at LT. He was small school but they played Ohio State and other much bigger colleges.

I think many of us, really like the player, but are nervous to take him at 24. He is the ideal trade back option, but he may not last too long.

 

[Hardline]

I was sold at Larry Allen.

 

[Killerinstinct]

Will be successful in GB or Tampa where holding calls are less frequent.

 

[reddyuta]

unfortunately we cant afford to take him,we need our 1st RD player to start on day 1.

 

[rags747]

We need Mean & Nasty on our OL bigtime, trade down and take him. Start him at guard and let him learn there, has to be better than what we had.

 

[buddieluver]

there are others stronger than Allen, but they are not football players, which are highly skilled. what's concerning is you say he is raw, which makes him a project and nothing more than a 6th round pick.

I have never seen another player bench 705 pounds except Allen.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I have never seen another player bench 705 pounds except Allen.

sorry, didn't mean necessarily football players....others as in anybody else. yes, strength matters. but football skill matters more.

 

[terra]

I consider LA the greatest O lineman in NFL history so throwing around comparisons to him make me laugh out loud.

 

[The Realist]

I just saw him get rag dolled by someone built like a WR.

 

[kumizi]

If you gonna call this dude Larry Allen, you’re either going to be the go to guy on the forum or mocked mercilessly for years.

 

[kevinhickey]

Tyler Smith is the closest OL that I've seen to Larry Allen in terms of power and athleticism.

He has LT athleticism with the power of a mauling gap-scheme OG.

He is completely raw with no technique.

He had penalty issues in college, about half of which were due to pancake blocks.

If he had played OG only in college and if he had SEC type coaching, he would be projected to the top half of the 1st. Lack of technique would have been OK at OG but even the very most athletic OL have to have some technique at LT. He was small school but they played Ohio State and other much bigger colleges.

Raw with no technique scares the hell out of me. It would be different if we had a loaded roster instead of a roster with many question marks. We can’t take chances and miss on our early selections; it sets the roster back years when the Jones refuse to use free agency to fill a hole with a stud. Poor technique only leads to penalties. This team has lacked proper execution for a number of years.

 

[tm1119]

Smith is like a freakishly athletic 6’10 freshman entering the nba draft. Love everything about him…except his ability to dribble, pass and shoot. Maybe the traits work out, but good luck with that project. Not picking an o-lineman in round 1 that literally needs to learn how to block. There are other very large athletes that can be had past the 4th round if you are looking to mold an athlete into a football player.