UFO’s? Yes, but why?

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The exosphere and the magnetosphere are two good sources of energy. The exosphere is a constant 2,000 degrees. I'm sure the magnetosphere is even hotter than that, since some think it's impossible for mankind to cross it. So either/or would be good enough and close enough to still live off our resources.
Actually, the exosphere's temperature isn't constant, and as I said earlier, there is no heat transfer because of the sparseness of molecules.
And I think you're thinking of the Van Allen Belt, rather than the Magnetosphere.
 

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Actually, the exosphere's temperature isn't constant, and as I said earlier, there is no heat transfer because of the sparseness of molecules.
And I think you're thinking of the Van Allen Belt, rather than the Magnetosphere.
I think we're talking about the same thing. I tend to just call it the super heated portion of Earth's atmosphere. Where radiation charged debris and particles create heat. But the amount of heat created depends on the amount of debris. It normally fluctuates from 2,000 degrees to about 7,000 degrees. And it sounds like the Van Allen belt is part of the magnetosphere.
 

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I think we're talking about the same thing. I tend to just call it the super heated portion of Earth's atmosphere. Where radiation charged debris and particles create heat. But the amount of heat created depends on the amount of debris. It normally fluctuates from 2,000 degrees to about 7,000 degrees. And it sounds like the Van Allen belt is part of the magnetosphere.
It's in there, but I think it's just contained by the magnetic field, rather than being a part of it. The Van Allen Belt is radiation, whereas the magnetosphere is a magnetic field.
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Also, objects don't heat up, just by being in the thermosphere, or exosphere, for the reason I stated earlier.
 

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It's in there, but I think it's just contained by the magnetic field, rather than being a part of it. The Van Allen Belt is radiation, whereas the magnetosphere is a magnetic field.
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Also, objects don't heat up, just by being in the thermosphere, or exosphere, for the reason I stated earlier.
1) Why is there heat shielding on space shuttles?

2) Why do meteorites burn?

The magnetosphere is super radioactive. Which means it's hot. The exosphere is the name given to the area... where objects will no longer fall to the ground, but are still caught in Earth's gravitational field. So the exosphere extends to the moon. And both the magnetosphere and the Allen belt are in the exosphere.

3) Remember the Columbia disaster of 2003?
 

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1) Why is there heat shielding on space shuttles?

2) Why do meteorites burn?

The magnetosphere is super radioactive. Which means it's hot. The exosphere is the name given to the area... where objects will no longer fall to the ground, but are still caught in Earth's gravitational field. So the exosphere extends to the moon. And both the magnetosphere and the Allen belt are in the exosphere.

3) Remember the Columbia disaster of 2003?
Friction upon re-entry is why there's heat shielding on the shuttles, capsules, etc., and also why meteorites burn up in the atmosphere. There's no heat shielding on the ISS, even though it's in low orbit. The exosphere is the name given to the outermost layer of the atmosphere, and the only things that won't fall to Earth even from that distance are things orbiting at a high enough velocity to counter gravity. That orbital speed is also the reason the people on the ISS are weightless. They're in a constant state of falling, but they're moving at the exact speed to stay in orbit. The magnetic field is not radioactive, it's electromagnetic.
 

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Friction upon re-entry is why there's heat shielding on the shuttles, capsules, etc., and also why meteorites burn up in the atmosphere. There's no heat shielding on the ISS, even though it's in low orbit. The exosphere is the name given to the outermost layer of the atmosphere, and the only things that won't fall to Earth even from that distance are things orbiting at a high enough velocity to counter gravity. That orbital speed is also the reason the people on the ISS are weightless. They're in a constant state of falling, but they're moving at the exact speed to stay in orbit. The magnetic field is not radioactive, it's electromagnetic.
So what is the Van Allen Belt?
 

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Did you look at the graphic I posted?
What is the temperature in the Van Allen Belt?

There is a little thing that NASA calls the thermopause. If you stay under it in low orbit, your OK. This is where the ISS can be found most of the time. But if you go above the thermopause you run into some extreme heat in the magnetosphere. That's why some say we could not have made it to the moon. Because we could not have survived that extreme heat. And we're only talking about a six mile difference between low orbit and the super heated portion of Earth's atmosphere.

So what's the temperature range in the Van Allen Belt?
 

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What is the temperature in the Van Allen Belt?

There is a little thing that NASA calls the thermopause. If you stay under it in low orbit, your OK. This is where the ISS can be found most of the time. But if you go above the thermopause you run into some extreme heat in the magnetosphere. That's why some say we could not have made it to the moon. Because we could not have survived that extreme heat. And we're only talking about a six mile difference between low orbit and the super heated portion of Earth's atmosphere.

So what's the temperature range in the Van Allen Belt?
I don't know what the temperature is, but you do realize there's a difference between heat and radiation, right?
 

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I don't know what the temperature is, but you do realize there's a difference between heat and radiation, right?
Ever heard of the phrase "radiant heat"? They are basically synonyms. Anything that gets exposed to too much radiation, begins to heat up. That's how microwaves work.

The definition of irradiation is...to affect or treat by radiant energy (such as heat) specially: to cast rays of light upon: illuminate.

So radio waves clash with one another and create heat. Which in turn creates CO2. That's why we stopped calling it global warming and start calling it climate change. The policy makers didn't want eco-friendly nut cases to start attacking radio stations, TV stations or cellphone towers. Some say cellphones are the number one CO2 producers on the planet, because of the cell towers.
 

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Ever heard of the phrase "radiant heat"? They are basically synonyms. Anything that gets exposed to too much radiation, begins to heat up. That's how microwaves work.

The definition of irradiation is...to affect or treat by radiant energy (such as heat) specially: to cast rays of light upon: illuminate.

So radio waves clash with one another and create heat. Which in turn creates CO2. That's why we stopped calling it global warming and start calling it climate change. The policy makers didn't want eco-friendly nut cases to start attacking radio stations, TV stations or cellphone towers. Some say cellphones are the number one CO2 producers on the planet, because of the cell towers.
Microwaves work by vibrating water molecules, and the friction creates heat. That's why food heats up, but certain materials don't.

Radiation does cause heat, when it's intense enough, and there are molecules to absorb it. The space where the Van Allen Belts are is a near vacuum, so there's not much to absorb the radiation and heat the space.

As for your claim about radio waves clashing and creating heat and carbon dioxide, I'd like to see where you read that...and why would that change the terminology from "global warming" to "climate change"?

It's almost 1 a.m. here. Time to go to sleep.
 

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I believe the technology the Navy has been encountering is not ET. It's something developed here on earth by our government or a foreign government. God help us if it's from a foreign government because they clearly have superiority of the air over anything presently in our inventory.
 

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I believe the technology the Navy has been encountering is not ET. It's something developed here on earth by our government or a foreign government. God help us if it's from a foreign government because they clearly have superiority of the air over anything presently in our inventory.
I feel like if it wasn't the US that they wouldn't just observe, but attempt to pursue. I think if it were a foreign govt they probably would have acted.
 

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More US Government footage released:



The slow release of information is upon us.
 

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The only thing is that even in this day and age, the footage is unclear and grainy.
 

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The only thing is that even in this day and age, the footage is unclear and grainy.
HUD vision videos and night vision videos won't be clear. Because they use those technologies in low visibility scenarios and at night.

But it's nice to know that the government if finally coming clean on the issue.
 

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I would guess that whatever or whereever life came from, it's most likley spread all over the universe, it just needs a proper environment to sprout like a seedling.

We humans have gotten very comfortable being at the top, the idea of something else being better than us won't be a pill easily swallowed.

Now did any of that life make flying machines that have come to the Earth, i have no idea.
 

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I would guess that whatever or whereever life came from, it's most likley spread all over the universe, it just needs a proper environment to sprout like a seedling.

We humans have gotten very comfortable being at the top, the idea of something else being better than us won't be a pill easily swallowed.

Now did any of that life make flying machines that have come to the Earth, i have no idea.
To our knowledge, the circumstances necessary to not only create life, but to have it thrive and evolve, is so specific, I find it difficult to believe there is intelligent life with the technology and desire to explore the universe within a close enough proximity for us to be visited. I think the best chance of that happening is if their ancestors are our progenitors. Other than that, I think the odds of being discovered this early in our existence is literally astronomical.
 

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To our knowledge, the circumstances necessary to not only create life, but to have it thrive and evolve, is so specific, I find it difficult to believe there is intelligent life with the technology and desire to explore the universe within a close enough proximity for us to be visited. I think the best chance of that happening is if their ancestors are our progenitors. Other than that, I think the odds of being discovered this early in our existence is literally astronomical.
I think circumstances are what allow life to get going and thrive. I think the first part of life, whatever that might be, is actually everywhere or almost everywhere in the universe, when that first part matches up with the proper circumstances, the life process begins.

What is this first part of life? I'm not sure. If there was a big bang, i would then say that this first part of life was already inside this mass that went bang before it banged. Once it bursted it spread and the process of life begins whereever or whenever it can take root. How rare is that, i have no idea.
 

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HUD vision videos and night vision videos won't be clear. Because they use those technologies in low visibility scenarios and at night.

But it's nice to know that the government if finally coming clean on the issue.
I would guess that whatever or whereever life came from, it's most likley spread all over the universe, it just needs a proper environment to sprout like a seedling.

We humans have gotten very comfortable being at the top, the idea of something else being better than us won't be a pill easily swallowed.

Now did any of that life make flying machines that have come to the Earth, i have no idea.
Not in my opinion, I fully expect that anyone/anything that can travel this far is much smarter than our *******es.
 
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