Ultimate "Hey Payton, take Zimmer with you" post...

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Wolverine said:
Hitman. Thnx for postin this. It brings a tear to my eye seein how so many other people know how Mike Zimmer sucks.
if you bring back your old avatar I might join in:)
 

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summerisfunner said:
isn't the team the reflection of the coach? no way Capers let his D go unnoticed

Yeah but you missed the part on my post about the GM sucking. You can't polish up a bunch of turds to look like all pros. Houston doesn't have any talent on defense. Name someone who has been to the probowl either this year or last year other than Robinson.
 

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DB.COOPER said:
if you bring back your old avatar I might join in:)


My Clint Eastwood avie.


or did you mean the best ever sig....the one with Village Idiot Mike Zimmer.
 

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DB.COOPER said:
if you bring back your old avatar I might join in:)

If Payton takes Zimmer please take Sparano too as a thrown in:pray2:

Sure Zimmer's Defense's may have been top 10 in yards allowed, but who cares? Winning the Turnover margin by a lot creates more opportunities for your O. We need a coach who calls blitzes from different locations, and using many different players. Zimmer can't disguise his blitzes, Capers can. Capers can design new blitzes, Zimmer can't.

I can keep going if I have to...
 

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neosapien23 said:
Yeah but you missed the part on my post about the GM sucking. You can't polish up a bunch of turds to look like all pros. Houston doesn't have any talent on defense. Name someone who has been to the probowl either this year or last year other than Robinson.

Capers is the head coach, head coaches usually have a large say in who's drafted, and who's brought in in Free Agency, I mean, the dude obviously can't even recognize good defensive talent then :eek:
 

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summerisfunner said:
Capers is the head coach, head coaches usually have a large say in who's drafted, and who's brought in in Free Agency, I mean, the dude obviously can't even recognize good defensive talent then :eek:

Not everyone is like Parcells or Billichick. Most coaches are not given any GM duties whatsoever. Dom Capers is one of them. No way he traded a 2nd and 3rd pick for Philip Buchanon or drafted Jason Babin in the first. He benched those guys because they sucked. That was all on the GM. Capers would not have let Glenn go either. He would have rather had Glenn than Buchanon. What Houston personnel do you see go to the draft? I'm pretty sure its not Capers. Let Jerry Jones make the draft picks on defense and see how well Parcells coaches.
 

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Wolverine said:
My Clint Eastwood avie.


or did you mean the best ever sig....the one with Village Idiot Mike Zimmer.
if not mistaken u had once a Stevie Nicks avatar or someone look like her?
 

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summerisfunner said:
we sho' did before this year, which I was talking about, sorry for not clarifying what I meant



trying to confuse opposing offenses, in the 1st year in a new scheme, is likely to confuse your D even more than they are


Well, I'm not suggesting the proverbial "Chinese Fire Drill" on defense...but ya know, maybe on occasion do something a little creative.

Remember when we were all freaked out about blocking the two Giant DE's? And what did they do on one of their sacks? Lined both guys up right next to eachother. We were block heavy over the tackles...and light where Strahan lined up. Ooops.

Nothing radical. But an occasional change of pace would have been nice.
 

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Juke99 said:
Well, I'm not suggesting the proverbial "Chinese Fire Drill" on defense...but ya know, maybe on occasion do something a little creative.

Remember when we were all freaked out about blocking the two Giant DE's? And what did they do on one of their sacks? Lined both guys up right next to eachother. We were block heavy over the tackles...and light where Strahan lined up. Ooops.

Nothing radical. But an occasional change of pace would have been nice.

I agree, and we saw some "change of pace" in the STL game, remember Ware moving to the other side of the line, and he blew up Alex Barron? learning a new scheme is a process, shoot, BIll told us that before the beginning
 

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neosapien23 said:
Not everyone is like Parcells or Billichick. Most coaches are not given any GM duties whatsoever. Dom Capers is one of them. No way he traded a 2nd and 3rd pick for Philip Buchanon or drafted Jason Babin in the first. He benched those guys because they sucked. That was all on the GM. Capers would not have let Glenn go either. He would have rather had Glenn than Buchanon. What Houston personnel do you see go to the draft? I'm pretty sure its not Capers. Let Jerry Jones make the draft picks on defense and see how well Parcells coaches.

if he can't recognize talent, how is he going to utilize it better than zimmer? after all, we improved on D once our talent level on D improved
 

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DB.COOPER said:
if not mistaken u had once a Stevie Nicks avatar or someone look like her?


Oh yeah that one. That was Maria Sharapova. Oh but dont get any ideas shes already mine.
 

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summerisfunner said:
if he can't recognize talent, how is he going to utilize it better than zimmer? after all, we improved on D once our talent level on D improved

Your missing the point, Capers is not allowed to make draft picks. He didn't make the the trade for Philip Buchanon. He did not draft Jason Babin. Now if Capers were allowed to make the picks and FA acquisitions then I would agree that Zimmer is a better coach. I never said Zimmer sucked either. I just stated that he would implement a cover two if he ever left Dallas. Zimmer is a better 4-3 DC, Capers is a better 3-4 DC. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
 

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neosapien23 said:
Your missing the point, Capers is not allowed to make draft picks. He didn't make the the trade for Philip Buchanon. He did not draft Jason Babin. Now if Capers were allowed to make the picks and FA acquisitions then I would agree that Zimmer is a better coach.

what head coach in the NFL doesn't get input on who's added to the team? that never happens, so Capers had a say in who was brought in, a large one
 

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summerisfunner said:
how is he going to utilize it better than zimmer? after all, we improved on D once our talent level on D improved


Can someone please wake me up when this guy comes up with something new.......YYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
 

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summerisfunner said:
what head coach in the NFL doesn't get input on who's added to the team? that never happens, so Capers had a say in who was brought in, a large one

Dude what are you talking about? Bill Parcells left New England because they would not let him make the picks. Same for Mike Holmgren and Green Bay. Bill Bilichick in New Tork as well. Not all coaches have a say in GM matters, thats why teams have a GM in the first place.
 

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Wolverine said:
Can someone please wake me up when this guy comes up with something new.......YYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!

can you wake me up when you construct a logical argument, with factual basis?
 

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neosapien23 said:
Dude what are you talking about? Bill Parcells left New England because they would not let him make the picks. Same for Mike Holmgren and Green Bay. Bill Bilichick in New Tork as well. Not all coaches have a say in GM matters, thats why teams have a GM in the first place.

Bill left New England because Kraft wouldn't let him make all the picks

if you think HCs don't have say in personnel matters, I don't know what to tell you
 

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Wolverine said:
Can someone please wake me up when this guy comes up with something new.......YYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!

Sorry me and him are having a debate that doesn't involve name calling or calling each other stupid!
 

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summerisfunner said:
I agree, and we saw some "change of pace" in the STL game, remember Ware moving to the other side of the line, and he blew up Alex Barron? learning a new scheme is a process, shoot, BIll told us that before the beginning


But ya know, it doesn't even have to work for a change of pace to be successful...just give the opposition a little something extra to think of...
 
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