News: Unconfirmed: Gregory fails another drug test

[drawandstrike]

Has this been confirmed yet?

I do a lot of political blogging. I have a '48 hour rule' that has served me well over the years. Otherwise I would've passed on a lot of crap that turned out to not be true to my readers. There's an entire segment of the Web that does nothing but pass fake 'rumors' around to each other, confirmation bias stuff like "At last proof Obama was born in Kenya!", etc. I get it linked to me all the time. I always say "Hey great, thanks for sharing that with me. Let me research it and I'll get back to you in 2 days."

And by that time 95% of the time this stuff has been debunked.

 

[Bluefin]

Someone asked in the post-draft presser today about Randy Gregory and jerry Jones said they haven't heard anything about a failed test.

Jerry said he would be very skeptical of such news unless it came from Gregory himself.

Jerry was very positive about Gregory having a future with the Cowboys, though he did include they needed him on the field. Jerry said what they saw from Randy last December was better than anything available in the draft right now.

 

[Hardline]

I do a lot of political blogging. I have a '48 hour rule' that has served me well over the years. Otherwise I would've passed on a lot of crap that turned out to not be true to my readers. There's an entire segment of the Web that does nothing but pass fake 'rumors' around to each other, confirmation bias stuff like "At last proof Obama was born in Kenya!", etc. I get it linked to me all the time. I always say "Hey great, thanks for sharing that with me. Let me research it and I'll get back to you in 2 days."

And by that time 95% of the time this stuff has been debunked.

Can you PM me your blog website?
I'm an admin in a conservative chat room.

 

[Melonfeud]

So you smoked 14 years but then quit. So couldn't people say of you during those 14 years you were weak minded?

So you smoked 14 years but then quit. So couldn't people say of you during those 14 years you were weak minded?

,,, not that @pupulehaole needs any support from the likes of me but there could be a couple different 'takes' on what he was putting out there,in my opinion.

I smoked that ' stuff' from around age 15 till I hit 28 cuz' things weren't panning out in life,so I put it down and today wouldn't give $50 for a pickup bed full of the 'stuff',,, but before that? I wouldn't leave the house without a loaded up discreet one hitter in the shirt pocket,,, I've got a friend who is a female chopper pilot for county sheriff's dept.
She says when she retires/ draws social security her and her girlfriend are gonna grow poppy's and smoke opium,,,,,,go figure, huh?

 

[Melonfeud]

Barbiturates are handed out like candies and are much, much more addictive and much, much more impairing and dangerous.

The reason why you have to be tested is most likely because of worker's comp insurance or similar bond and if you were to ask them for actuarial data to justify testing for marijuana they could not provide it. Firms don't do drug testing unless required typically because it is expensive.

Of course the NIDA and similar Nixon era war on drugs infrastructure will not allow it to be studied.

I understand your sacrifice but it is a sacrifice you are forced to make under the duress of losing your job and that doesn't seem to be a compelling justification.

Well, now you got me thinking about Quaaludes and I really miss those.

Thanks a pantload,Fuzzy.

 

[Bluefin]

Jerry Jones still supports Randy Gregory, skeptical of failed test report
By Clarence E. Hill Jr.
chill@star-telegram.com

FRISCO - Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones openly questioned a report from TMZ regarding another failed drug test by suspended defensive end Randy Gregory.

“I would be very skeptical,” Jones said Sunday asked about the TMZ report of Gregory not only failing a seventh test but he also blowing off NFL drug treatment officials attempting to contact him, thus putting his future reinstatement and career in jeopardy.

Gregory is already serving a year-long suspension for repeated violations of the NFL’s substance abuse policy.

He can apply for reinstatement in December but it hinges on his ability to stay clean and adhere to the treatment program.

Jones said the Cowboys remain very supportive of Gregory and believe he is a great asset to the team.

“We need him on the football field,” Jones said. “We do support him absolutely.”

Jones even acknowledges that he had optimistic hopes of Gregory returning the league because of possible negotiations to changes to the NFL’s drug policy in regards to marijuana.

To that end, however, Jones said that Gregory is in a good place and has a lot of support as he continues to deal with his issues, better than last year and at any time since he’s been in the league.

It’s one reason why Jones scoffed at the report of Gregory not cooperating with the league officials.

“That’s just not right,” Jones said. “He is getting a lot of support

He is not void in any way. He’s got in my mind a better method of support than he had most of last year. I’m very comfortable with his support and we are trying to stay in communication with him.”

Gregory, a top 10 talent at Nebraska, dropped to the second round in the 2015 NFL Draft where he was picked by the Cowboys because of a failed drug test the NFL Scouting combine.

His troubles returned almost immediately as he failed a test during the season resulting in four-game fine. He then failed another test, resulting in a four-game suspension to start the 2016 season. A subsequent failed test prompted an additional 10-game suspension.

He returned to play two games before getting popped again, resulting in the year-long suspension.

 

[Hoofbite]

The lack of punishment would have no negative outcomes.

There are also some very high profile players that this would impact such as Gordon and Gregory. There is the historical example of Ricky Williams. There are all of the failed tests and diluted samples from recent draft processes. Also there are all the players we do not consider. Our consideration is hardly exhaustive.

As for the strength of the demand you are not considering the number of players who partake. It's often bandied around that half do. Them not having to jump through hoops and act clandestine would be be compelling for almost all of them.

Not at all, which I why I don't think it will be a good bargaining chip. Let's say half the league does. We have Gordon, Gregory, and Ricky Williams who are really the only players who's careers have been significantly hurt by it. Dating back to Ricky, that's like 13 seasons.

If half the league uses, nearly every single one of them manages to either avoid a positive test all together, or avoids just enough positive tests to keep their careers going. A lack of punishment may have no negative outcomes, but the negative outcomes are so few and far between that it's hard to say that entire group of players as a whole would be willing to give something up. What do the half who don't partake gain?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

WHO?!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not at all, which I why I don't think it will be a good bargaining chip. Let's say half the league does. We have Gordon, Gregory, and Ricky Williams who are really the only players who's careers have been significantly hurt by it. Dating back to Ricky, that's like 13 seasons.

If half the league uses, nearly every single one of them manages to either avoid a positive test all together, or avoids just enough positive tests to keep their careers going. A lack of punishment may have no negative outcomes, but the negative outcomes are so few and far between that it's hard to say that entire group of players as a whole would be willing to give something up. What do the half who don't partake gain?

Sorry but those are only the high profile players we thought of off the cuff. You can add Jason Jones, Le'Veon Bell, Marcell Dareus, Aaron Lynch, Karlos Williams, Martavius Bryant, Shiloh Keo, Seantrell Henderson, Mike Pennel, Marqueston Huff, and Damion Square from last year.

And again, people do not like having to do things clandestinely and the inherent risk associated with it.

 

[marchetta]

This! When I heard JJ allude to this, I knew he knew something that we don't. That the league may be revisiting its testing/punishing of players for marijuana use.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I live in Texas where it is still illegal but even if they did legalize it my company would still have it listed under their zero tolerance drug test policy. We have a site in Colorado where they can't can't do it even though it is legal in the state. I did try the stuff a few times as a kid and enjoyed it but I know if I do it now I lose my job. That is why I just do not understand people like Gregory. The NFL actually has a very liberal drug policy compared to most other companies where they have zero tolerance, one strike and your out policies.

I think the difference is these guys don't want the "pills" it makes them stupid and dependent on them. I can't remember where I saw, but I remember a story that players would smoke and hide it really well and not take the pills. It's a different type of relief that seems to help ileviate the pain. I know because I went to smoking over the pills 6 years ago after an accident I was in. So I can understand why the players fight for it. For as liberal the drug policy is, it still has a conservative view on meds. JMO

 

[CowboyStar88]

Lord help Randy for the sake of his newborn baby his family and him. Not saying this as a football fan but as a human.

What???

He smokes weed for an illness. It's like popping a pill and going about your day. I mean do people think he's like huddled in a corner like a heroin addict looking for his next score?

Doctors smoke, Lawyers smoke, people smoke and you'd never know. But to pray for him or his family likes he's on skid row just sounds ridiculous.

 

[CowboyStar88]

According to the CDC:

Some people think that marijuana is not truly “addictive” or that people can’t become “hooked” on the drug, but research shows that about 1 in 10 marijuana users will become addicted. For people who begin using before the age of 18, that number rises to 1 in 6.

Some of the signs that someone might be addicted include:

• Unsuccessful efforts to quit using marijuana.
• Giving up important activities with friends and family in favor of using marijuana.
• Using marijuana even when it is known that it causes problems fulfilling everyday jobs at home, school or work.

https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects.htm

Well that's some propaganda if I've ever seen some

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

What???

He smokes weed for an illness. It's like popping a pill and going about your day. I mean do people think he's like huddled in a corner like a heroin addict looking for his next score?

Doctors smoke, Lawyers smoke, people smoke and you'd never know. But to pray for him or his family likes he's on skid row just sounds ridiculous.

Stigma or fear of the unknown for people who most likely have never tried it.

 

[CowboyStar88]

He'll be homeless or in prison within 5 years. Sad.

I just can't with these... Do you think this guy is on skid row itching looking for his next "fix" thrust into a life of crime?

 

[Trouty]

To an alcoholic yup. Some say they can't function in the morning without it. It's like it helps level there mind.

Here here!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well, now you got me thinking about Quaaludes and I really miss those.

Thanks a pantload,Fuzzy.

Ludes were before my time. Rohypnol (roofies) was what we had. Benzos are even more inebriating and addictive than barbs though.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Good read...

The Day Bob Dylan Introduced the Beatles to Marijuana
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/bob-dylan-introduces-beatles-to-marijuana

The Beatles and Cannabis: How the Fab Four Got By With a Little Help From Their Friends
https://www.leafly.com/news/pop-cul...abis-how-the-fab-four-got-by-with-a-little-he

 

[CowboyStar88]

Well, now you got me thinking about Quaaludes and I really miss those.

Thanks a pantload,Fuzzy.

Before my time, but my pops and his boys would tell us stories about big time parties and Quaaludes back in NY. He ends with man those were the days you kids missed out on a good one.. Quaaludes.... it's a damn shame... I busted out laughing. Now he's just a retired business owner.

 

[Trouty]

Ludes were before my time. Rohypnol (roofies) was what we had. Benzos are even more inebriating and addictive than barbs though.

Klonopin is awesome! And prescribed to me! Yay!