Update: Cowboys extend K Bailey through 2020 ***7-yr 23mil***

kevm3

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You do realize the Ravens won a Super Bowl last year with a minimum wage kicker? Giants in 2011 had a very low paid one as well

Quit overrating the kicker position.

we'd arguably be 6 and 10 or 5 and 11 without Bailey's automatic kicking. His contract might have been a little too long, but oh well.
 

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Can't argue with Bailey's contract.

Are we supposed to let him go and get a Buehler again?

I was always jealous of when Philly had Akers. He hit every FG, and especially against us.
 

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Alexander

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Can't argue with Bailey's contract.

Are we supposed to let him go and get a Buehler again?

Buehler was not even a good college kicker. That had to be a Jeff Ireland special or something. Still mystifies me to this day.

Funny how that was almost a reaction to the new kickoff rule and this signing occurs when there might be a push to eliminate the extra point in the next few seasons.
 

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Sorry, I'm just basing things off of recent performance on the field. Hadn't realized you were commenting on two decades of coaches and players in the context of the current extension for a place kicker.

Even basing things off of recent performances on the field they team isn't good. You're being deliberately obtuse. Back to the signing. Why? 21 million over the cap or Defense is horrid, but let's lock up the kicker for life. Jerry is so smart! :confused:
 

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You do realize the Ravens won a Super Bowl last year with a minimum wage kicker? Giants in 2011 had a very low paid one as well

Quit overrating the kicker position.

The Ravens had a rookie kicker last season. We shall see what the Ravens pay Tucker once his contract is up. They will be facing the same decision making that Dallas had to do with Bailey. Dallas got a cheap kicker when they picked up Bailey as a UDFA in 2011 just like the Ravens did with Tucker last season. Eventually you have to move on and find another cheap kicker or pay the guy you do have. I think when you find guys that have been as good as Bailey and Tucker have been and are also young, paying them isn't such a bad deal.
 

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Dan Bailey is definitely a top 5 kicker, however, there are so many good kickers in the league. 12 kickers kicked for more than 90% this season. There have never been so many good kickers.
 

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You can fish for Chuckles with the comments like that..

but this guy is a huge addition to this staff who brings a huge amount of success in developing TEs..

something these other coaches I thought have been complete failures at.

Other than Hanna..

its been a complete failure to develop anything to help Witten and Romo.

I think they would like to run more 2TE sets in both run and pass situations..

..and Escobar needs to play in all our passing situations..

maybe more than Witten.

After I saw Witten watch a pass go thru his hands against the Iggles for an inteception..

and then later to see Escobar show his quickness and pass skills for a huge TD against the Philly secondary..

..made me want more of Escobar.

Don't know about the rest of you guys.

HA. Catching passes is just a part of a TE's job. Is that one pick out of Wittens hands what you're basing this on? Escobar can't block. A TE has to learn to do that basic thing. Unless you're Jimmy Graham, a WR pretending to be a TE. Teach him how to block half as good as Witten and that will be a start. Escobar gets steamrolled at times.
 

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As I said earlier, we used to gave a coach, Hoffman, that worked with the new kickers. We never paid a kicker and just had him develop a new one. During his time here kickers set 15 team records. So it's not unheard if to not pay the kicker...especially when he want an UFA until 2014. I'm always a fan of seeing what the next year holds and then making a deal. I understand those who like him and wanted a deal. I just think a deal this size does what we always do...moves more money later. Honestly this isn't something I'm overly nuts about but just wanted to throw out the different philosophy in past.
 

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Good extension for Bailey. Little over $3M a year. That means he'll never be a salary cap challenge, and is easily waiveable if he falls off a cliff for some reason.
 

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Bailey's a damn good kicker, but these team needs to use it's scarce cap resources elsewhere.
Yea, they should and when they have a kicker who is not damn good for low ball money then what? Not a whole lot of money ball type kickers to be found out on the street in case you would need an in season replacement for being a cheapskate. No sir, I applaud this deal by the front office of Jerry Jones for getting this kid locked in for 6 years and didn't break the bank at the same time.
 

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Even basing things off of recent performances on the field they team isn't good. You're being deliberately obtuse. Back to the signing. Why? 21 million over the cap or Defense is horrid, but let's lock up the kicker for life. Jerry is so smart! :confused:

I didn't say we were good. I said we were not a bad team. And if you don't happen to agree with that, it doesn't follow that I'm the one who's obtuse.

To the kicker's contract, it's insane that you guys are complaining about this, as well. Insane, but entirely predictable.
 

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I didn't say we were good. I said we were not a bad team. And if you don't happen to agree with that, it doesn't follow that I'm the one who's obtuse.

To the kicker's contract, it's insane that you guys are complaining about this, as well. Insane, but entirely predictable.

Has this been mentioned at all? How come we didn't tender him @ $2 million (with a 2nd round tender) and if another team signs him, we had the right to match and if we didn't, then would be receiving a 2nd pick in the process....

I love Bailey, but this would have seemed to make more sense. Am I missing something?
 

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Wow, long term deal for $3 mil a year average.

Cheap price to pay to not go through the years when we had a revolving door of kickers that missed short FGs.

Horrible feeling it was to see cowboys line up FG attempt. Horrible.

I remember I went to see giants vs Dallas and Cortez hit game winning FG on cinco de mayo. He made my trip worth it and more enjoyable. But making kicks was not the norm then.
 

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As I said earlier, we used to gave a coach, Hoffman, that worked with the new kickers. We never paid a kicker and just had him develop a new one. During his time here kickers set 15 team records. So it's not unheard if to not pay the kicker...especially when he want an UFA until 2014. I'm always a fan of seeing what the next year holds and then making a deal. I understand those who like him and wanted a deal. I just think a deal this size does what we always do...moves more money later. Honestly this isn't something I'm overly nuts about but just wanted to throw out the different philosophy in past.

Oh boy, the Hoffman myth again. We lucked into a couple udfas and some writer who is scraping the bottom if the bowl for a story does a feature on Hoffman. People buy that junk. He's just an OK coach. Some success, some failure, some time out of the league.
 

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Heres the top 8 all of whom make more than 3 million per year;

Janikowski (Oak)- 3.775M
Gould (Chi)- 3.75
Scobee (Jax)- 3.45M
Gostkowski (NE)- 3.4M
Bironas (Ten)-3.3375M
Barth (TB)- 3.3M
Prater (Den)- 3.25M
Vinatieri (IND)- 3.066M
 

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Oh boy, the Hoffman myth again. We lucked into a couple udfas and some writer who is scraping the bottom if the bowl for a story does a feature on Hoffman. People buy that junk. He's just an OK coach. Some success, some failure, some time out of the league.

This is such a crock. The guy coached Jeff Feagles while at the University of Miami. With the Cowboys all those different kickers had an 82.3 percentage and set 15 club records including every single season record. When he went to Miami and worked with Jay Feely the guy had his best year as a pro making 91% o his kicks. When he went to Kansas City he got them to draft Ryan Succop as Mr. Irrelevant and the guy tied a NFL rookie record making 86.2% of his kicks. He also set a Chiefs record and passed Jan Stenaroud with most kicks made. He is now with the Titans and still does kicking clinics. So he just lucked into all of this productivity? Please child..The way we did it back then was the way NE does it now with most of their players including their SB hero Venateiri. You can always get someone cheaper and as good.
 

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Oh boy, the Hoffman myth again. We lucked into a couple udfas and some writer who is scraping the bottom if the bowl for a story does a feature on Hoffman. People buy that junk. He's just an OK coach. Some success, some failure, some time out of the league.

EXACTLY. Hoffman is urban legend for the Dallas Cowboys

Fact is that NOW in this league at this time no matter what you are going to have multiple games each year that will rest on your kicker. Only a moron does not understand this.
 

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This is such a crock. The guy coached Jeff Feagles while at the University of Miami. With the Cowboys all those different kickers had an 82.3 percentage and set 15 club records including every single season record. When he went to Miami and worked with Jay Feely the guy had his best year as a pro making 91% o his kicks. When he went to Kansas City he got them to draft Ryan Succop as Mr. Irrelevant and the guy tied a NFL rookie record making 86.2% of his kicks. He also set a Chiefs record and passed Jan Stenaroud with most kicks made. He is now with the Titans and still does kicking clinics. So he just lucked into all of this productivity? Please child..


go back your basement

If he was so good why was there never any kind of bidding war for him? He went without a job for a season several times in his career.
 

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How much of that $20 million is making its way into Bailey bank account?
 
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