Update: Jackson, Commanders agree to terms

ShiningStar

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Alright alright......very nicely done. I think it's impressive that Gruden got 33tds from Andy Dalton so I'm excited to see what he brings to the table. But of course that is a huge question mark and we have to play devils advocate. We really don't know what Jay is going to bring and it is scary to think about. Everyone relates him to immediate success because of his father and I think that's why we keep hearing "Jay will have this offense on fire". Jay has got to prove he is an pretty decent offensive guy. We improved with alot of ILB help, Hatcher, Ryan Clark (not huge on this signing). We added Tracy Porter to play in the slot because frankly Josh Wilson got torched last year. I doubt Tracy Porter will be anything great along with Ryan Clark but we are improving our D or at least trying to. Definitely adding alot of this help for the sake of ST's as well. I agree with the division aspect, the NFC East is just very exciting when teams play each other compared to other divisions. It's always a close match between everyone unless the Commanders are playing Mike Vick (and we get torched). I think this year will be one of the most competitive between us and possibly a race between all 3 or 4 teams? Never would have guessed 3-13 for us last year.....but I guess my hope is similar to Dallas Defense.....HOPEFULLY we can't finish any worse....

I agree with everything you posted. The head coaches will seperate this team. Okay so you have a ground and a high, but not overdoing it. I can post with that. So now I think with Dallas going with Rod M over Kiffen, but the Skins keeping their guy, Haslett, I see that the skins went more for FA, but nothing overpriced, and Dallas picked up one guy, I personally think Dallas is looking to hit on the draft moreso than the Skins have to just on defense alone. Dallas is not one or two pieces away from a stellar defense, but I think the skins are going to be under the gun defensively because I think their offense can roll better this year than compared to last year. So i feel in the race to get better on defense, the Skins did a better job.

ST is going to be a bummer year for Dallas, if Dallas keeps their ST on par or better, I feel we lose our ST coach, its opinion. I think the Skins will not use their ST as much as Dallas does for their team. So its a non issue.

Offense is where it gets debatable. I remember when skin fans drafted Campbell and i remember the comparisions between Romo and Campbell, obiously thats been settled. But Griffin has got to have everyone in Skins nation in a tizzy, because he cant be this bad and that injury cant be that serious. What i mean is that if that injury is that serious, it just ruined a good qb, and if its not, he better become a better qb in a hurry.

Point of note, I always felt the Skins handled his return very badly and this year Griffen returns to form. Its just opinion tho.

I am going to to say, lots of questions marks for both teams on the offensive side because I think the one thing Shanahan did correctly was workign your RBs and they was as good as good gets at times.
 

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I'm with ya.....so quote me. You guys are Cowboys fans, we are Commanders fans....we love our teams. We have homerism. But just quote my posts on what you disagree with and lets have a nice, healthy, fun, football debate. I don't come around often....just usually when something between either team is going down.
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First of all both defense were bad, so being proud of the fact you lost no key components is nothing to brag about, second we recognize we had a bad defense and made a nessary change. Your team choose to keep the guy in charge and blame the bad deafens on Shanny??? ( I don't get that). Second you are here because your team signed a good player, and as I said earlier you are feeling happy.

Ok, you made the necessary change, I understand that. Rod Marinelli is a good defensive coach. But then again, so was Kiffin. The problem is lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball for the Cowboys. They lost their best pass rushers, and they didn't do much to address it--added an injured Henry Melton (who could bounce back, and be a great value signing) but no one else on that d-line scares me. You have one player on that defense that's is really good in Sean Lee, but he's always hurt.

Now, I did not want Haslett back. It hurts my head to think about. I wanted Wade Phillips. However, it's not all the same for this defense. If you believe the rumors, Shanahan forced Haslett to run a 2-gap system. We do not have the players for a 2-gap system. For that to work, you need the mountain of a man at NT. We do not have that in Cofield. Nor did that play to any of the DLs strenghts. All of or DL are better at the 1-gap, penetrating system. Cofield is a much better 1-gap NT, then trying to occupy blockers. We'll see, I am not hoping for anything better than marginal improvements. But even marginal improvements, without any offensive or special teams improvements, we easily win 5 more games last year: Minnesota, Detroit, and split the NFC East games.

But we'll see what happens. Offseason talk is just that talk.

(I will give you the credit though for the Curly W.)
 

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Ok, you made the necessary change, I understand that. Rod Marinelli is a good defensive coach. But then again, so was Kiffin. The problem is lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball for the Cowboys. They lost their best pass rushers, and they didn't do much to address it--added an injured Henry Melton (who could bounce back, and be a great value signing) but no one else on that d-line scares me. You have one player on that defense that's is really good in Sean Lee, but he's always hurt.

Now, I did not want Haslett back. It hurts my head to think about. I wanted Wade Phillips. However, it's not all the same for this defense. If you believe the rumors, Shanahan forced Haslett to run a 2-gap system. We do not have the players for a 2-gap system. For that to work, you need the mountain of a man at NT. We do not have that in Cofield. Nor did that play to any of the DLs strenghts. All of or DL are better at the 1-gap, penetrating system. Cofield is a much better 1-gap NT, then trying to occupy blockers. We'll see, I am not hoping for anything better than marginal improvements. But even marginal improvements, without any offensive or special teams improvements, we easily win 5 more games last year: Minnesota, Detroit, and split the NFC East games.

But we'll see what happens. Offseason talk is just that talk.

(I will give you the credit though for the Curly W.)

So based on your rational the team that cut DeMarcus Ware and elected not to resign Jason Hatcher, who had a career year under Marinelli I might add, lacked talent last year??? The system Kiffin was using was just bad, sure he was a good D coordinator 5 or 10 yrs ago, not any more. I believe we will be much improved once we finish building our team and allow Marinelli to take the reigns.
The talk of Shanny interfering with Haslett I believe was some BS so that your fans would accept him this year. On 31 other teams he would be unemployed right now, just like he was before Shanny brought him back into the league.
 
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