Valid points by Irvin and Smith

[Idgit]

Terrell Davis with the Broncos is credited with putting them over the hump during Elways 2 Super Bowl wins. Without him, the Broncos might not have even made it much less won

Every time the Terrell Davis argument comes up, I have to ask myself what round he was drafted in again to make sure I understand the point being made. He was a 6th rounder, wasn't he?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Emmitt-Smith-and-Michael-Irvin-calling-for-Zeke-to-Cowboys-45037570

Irvin and Emmitts perspective on Deion in ATL and JJ Watt in Houston and how even tho they are all world defensive players there team still didn't (Deion) or hasn't (JJ) win a ship and Zeke did score 23 tds I mean we could use 20+ tds from A RB in A season


Draft tomorrow I been callin for Zeke waaaaayy before the threads got "Zeketafied"na mean

I'm sorry y'all we need a Super Bowl and to me Zekes I believe can be that guy ... I wanna talk sooooooooo $&&$? An all that

we need to stop playin and just go for it

I do like Ramsey tho nothing against him at all

Dixon scores more TDs

 

[Vero_F250]

Why no to Zeke at 4? Getting a defensive player of that caliber at 4 and adding a RB later in the draft improves this TEAM more than if we draft Zeke at 4 and then trickle in what's left of defensive players later in the draft.

 

[plasticman]

If we take him you wanna bet he have a 20 td season? NEVER NOT 1 behind our Oline who's not in there prime still Collins still developing with the holes he will hv to run through and he won't miss many and even creates on his own 2 .... Ok I'll take the over unless at end of season we sittin out players

The most Murray had was what 13 and he got caught from behind a lot

We are def going to give him the ball 20 plus a game and he scores from long distances

Murray only had 13? Dude! They were the 5th ranked team in rushing scores with 16 total. Randle was the only other scorer with 3 in relief.

 

[DogFace]

I'm ok with Zeke or Ramsey at 4.

The number of Zeke threads make us getting him mathematically impossible.

 

[DogFace]

Sold even more. Id be fine with him or Ramsey.

Mike makes a lot of great points and it's hard to argue he immediately improves our team more than anyone else.

 

[ghst187]

Zeke is not the difference between this team missing or making the SB in the near future.

Disagree, at least in comparison to any other player we could get at four besides a qb

 

[BubbleScreen]

Zeke in round 1.
Henry in round 2.
Perkins in round 3.
Collins in round 4.
Marshall in round 6.

With this OL we'd be the greatest team of all time if we just drafted all those guys.

Who needs a QB, DL, or secondary?

Seriously, I like all those backs listed above, but RB is just about the most interchangeable position out there. This team needs difference makers.

If D-Mac can run for 1500, Zeke would need 2500 to be worth the fourth pick in the draft.

 

[Jarv]

Every time the Terrell Davis argument comes up, I have to ask myself what round he was drafted in again to make sure I understand the point being made. He was a 6th rounder, wasn't he?

Yep, same round Brady was taken at QB.

 

[DandyDon52]

smith:
"They don't ever give them the chance to [carry 30 times a game]," Smith told KTCK's BaD Radio, via Lane. "Period. They really don't. They have taken the ball out of the hands of the running back for various reasons. I don't understand what those reasons are. There must be some statistical data that we're not aware of that they need to share with the public. But at the end of the day, I think the game is actually won between the tackles.

t comes down to the team that can run the rock the most effectively and get the play-action going on, bootlegs going on, waggles, all kinds of things to open up the whole entire offense. And right now, they're telling the guys you have to get 100 yards off of 12 carries."

Elliott carried the ball 289 times last season for the Buckeyes and rushed for 1,821 yards and the 23 touchdowns
(no fumbles) Irvin mentioned. Elliott averaged 6.3 yards per carry and he could become the workhorse back in Dallas.

 

[DandyDon52]

It would also depend on how they use some of the players, including RB as to whether they
could excel or not.

The dallas offense moves up and down the field, but has had problems in red zone, taking FG
instead of td's.
And at times has just not moved the ball well. Mistakes, penaltys, etc.
2014 was the best most consistent year and they ran a lot with a good RB.

In first 2 games of 2015 offense had only 2 fg's in the 1st half of each game, and that is not
very good. And that was with Romo, and 1st game with dez too.

 

[Dhragon]

Every time the Terrell Davis argument comes up, I have to ask myself what round he was drafted in again to make sure I understand the point being made. He was a 6th rounder, wasn't he?

That wasn't what was asked (The last time a high #1 pick made a diff - just when last time a RB made a diff) but TD WAS a later rounds pick. There is no guarantee Elliott will be the best RB in this year's draft but the odds say he probably will be, especially if he is given an OL like ours right away and if Romo can stay healthy.

Though not ideal and I totally see where the anti-Elliott people are coming from in relation to his cost value at that pick, since QB is pretty much off the board, he would be the next best gamble IMO. The flexibility factor alone in the running game is huge. I also don't see any one secondary player, especially with our apparent lack of ability to develop those players, having much effect on our defense next year. I'd rather have Bosa to be honest over Ramsey, and I'm not a huge Bosa fan.

 

[Sydla]

Terrell Davis with the Broncos is credited with putting them over the hump during Elways 2 Super Bowl wins. Without him, the Broncos might not have even made it much less won

Great, one example from 20 years ago and that RB was a 6th round pick, not the 4th pick in the draft.

 

[Sydla]

Disagree, at least in comparison to any other player we could get at four besides a qb

No player at 4 is going to change the fortunes of this team immediately at 4. That's the point. But EE fans want to keep floating this myth that we have to take him at 4 because he's apparently the difference between this franchise being just good or being the greatest team of all time.

 

[bayeslife]

Ohio State= another questionable character signing ... ggggg-reat!

Do you do part time work for Frosted Flakes?

 

[jrumann59]

It isn't that difficult IMO. If Ramsey is there at 4, he's a Cowboy. If Ramsey is gone then the question becomes: Is Elliott a better RB than Bosa is a DE? Is Elliott a better RB than Buckner is a DE?

Can the team get someone at 34 that is comparable to Bosa/Buckner? Can they get someone similar to Elliott at 34?

To me, Elliott is a more elite RB than Bosa or Buckner are elite DE's. I'm not going to quibble about a few draft slots... I'm going to take the guy that I think can be special. It seems a little silly to like Elliott at 7 but hate him at 4.

The guy is a unique talent who will be hell to stop behind the Dallas OL. I'm good with it. I let go of the value aspect of it a while back. Just get a special back and work on the defense from there.

I'm at peace with the pick if that's the way they go.

Drafting JJ Watt today would not tremendously help the defense this year. DE need at least a year to learn and acclimate physically to the NFL. RBs while are disposable in the NFL now can contribute Day 1 and if they are studs get better until year 4 or 5. DBs are like DEs, most rookies if they are any good are middle of the road usually making the jump by year 3.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Not to rain negativity on your thread, but man I am so sick of Zeke threads.

Do you have the Zeke channel? It's available on cable, dish, and stream.

 

[erod]

Zeke is not the difference between this team missing or making the SB in the near future.

Nor is any player. Fortunately, there are six more rounds in the draft, and free agency and trades are still an option.

 

[CowboyRoy]

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Emmitt-Smith-and-Michael-Irvin-calling-for-Zeke-to-Cowboys-45037570

Irvin and Emmitts perspective on Deion in ATL and JJ Watt in Houston and how even tho they are all world defensive players there team still didn't (Deion) or hasn't (JJ) win a ship and Zeke did score 23 tds I mean we could use 20+ tds from A RB in A season


Draft tomorrow I been callin for Zeke waaaaayy before the threads got "Zeketafied"na mean

I'm sorry y'all we need a Super Bowl and to me Zekes I believe can be that guy ... I wanna talk sooooooooo $&&$? An all that

we need to stop playin and just go for it

I do like Ramsey tho nothing against him at all

We are not winning a SB buddy. If you think drafting zeke is going to get us one you are sorely mistaken. This is 5 or 6 year rebuild and that includes getting a new franchise QB. And by the time the reubild is about ready, Zeke will be all used up. We are not winning the SB with no pass rush and no secondary. Doesnt matter if we have Zeke and Romo.

 

[Fredd]

Every time the Terrell Davis argument comes up, I have to ask myself what round he was drafted in again to make sure I understand the point being made. He was a 6th rounder, wasn't he?

Exzeketly what I was thinking...6th rounder...so, find a 6th round back....the zekists in here are something else...if the 'boys traded back a little in the first and picked up another 2nd or 3rd, then Zeke around #7 or #8 sounds about right to me