Valid points by Irvin and Smith

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Insane. Name for me the last TB that completely changed a team's fortunes by himself and made his team a SB team?

Ravens cause they didn't win until they got that Jamal Lewis won Super Bowl in rookie year and he was a BIG part of it along with the defense cause they didn't have an all pro QB or All Pro WR like we have nor the Oline we have

but its my opinion in regards to this team not anybody else Dallas the way its constructed now
 

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Dixon scores more TDs

but Dixon is not a better player nor caliber than Zeke like for real bruh quality and don't dioxin have a lot more tread on his tires 4 year starter right? with all those touches already
 

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Murray only had 13? Dude! They were the 5th ranked team in rushing scores with 16 total. Randle was the only other scorer with 3 in relief.

Comparing the times Murray got caught from behind on those long runs or ran out of bounds when it looked like he my can score with a lil more effort......so my point was he should have had more than 13,

so yes only 13tds he scored but he got caught on all his runs it seems like, with him and one defender but murray would get tackled so yea i'll take Zeke to win in those situations more than Murray and i bet you won't be complaining then about Zeke

Zeke not gonna get caught that much so he will score more ads either him or den gonna have 20 td's cuz defenses got to pick there poison in goal line
 

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We are not winning a SB buddy. If you think drafting zeke is going to get us one you are sorely mistaken. This is 5 or 6 year rebuild and that includes getting a new franchise QB. And by the time the reubild is about ready, Zeke will be all used up. We are not winning the SB with no pass rush and no secondary. Doesnt matter if we have Zeke and Romo.

i see it differently
 

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The problem with all of them is they debate the same wrong issue, which is RB vs another position, when the real debate ought to be Elliott himself as a player.

I'm going to completely put aside the 35 years I've been watching this game and me failing to see anything special about his running style, because I am not a pro scout or analyst.

I'll argue against taking him from this perspective.....

Todd Gurley, Trent Richardson, CJ Spiller, Darren McFadden, Adrian Peterson, Reggie Bush, Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson and Caddillac Williams.

Those are all of the RBs picked in the top 10 since 2002. ONE elite player. There is no other position like that and it isn't even remotely close.

What exactly makes Elliot so immune to joining the not named Peterson part of that list??

The position also has a short shelf life, which probably explains why the above list is so short to begin with. It shows that teams are willing to take the chance when a player appears to be very special.

All to often for my taste, that team is very wrong.

But you are forgetting none of those RB had Romo as a QB or a Dez Like WR, nor an Oline like Dallas currently have us and thats the perspective i can't understand fans of the gam especially fans that know the game can't see zeke= more WINS

there are other db's in this draft just like other rb's

I'm looking at the situation for Dallas and whats on our roster now and Zeke can start from day ,1 that type of player with our Oline Romo can just sit back and watch the show and when needed then throw the ball if he want to.. we control the whole game the game goes how we want it to go not the opponent

He was the Main reason Ohio State won the ship!!! With a 3rd string QB not 1st not 2nd but 3rd string cmon now... y'all making it seem like he is just another guy man he's far from that imo
 

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Zeke in round 1.
Henry in round 2.
Perkins in round 3.
Collins in round 4.
Marshall in round 6.

With this OL we'd be the greatest team of all time if we just drafted all those guys.

Who needs a QB, DL, or secondary?

Seriously, I like all those backs listed above, but RB is just about the most interchangeable position out there. This team needs difference makers.

If D-Mac can run for 1500, Zeke would need 2500 to be worth the fourth pick in the draft.

style does matter with this line too we not soft that line is not soft
when did d-mac run for 1500?
 

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i see it differently

I get it. I'm very negative on the boys and their chances. Some are bullish. Poor coaching, poor defense, Old/injury prone QB, lackluster RB's. That is the way I see the boys negatives at this point.
 

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But you are forgetting none of those RB had Romo as a QB or a Dez Like WR, nor an Oline like Dallas currently have us and thats the perspective i can't understand fans of the gam especially fans that know the game can't see zeke= more WINS

there are other db's in this draft just like other rb's

I'm looking at the situation for Dallas and whats on our roster now and Zeke can start from day ,1 that type of player with our Oline Romo can just sit back and watch the show and when needed then throw the ball if he want to.. we control the whole game the game goes how we want it to go not the opponent

He was the Main reason Ohio State won the ship!!! With a 3rd string QB not 1st not 2nd but 3rd string cmon now... y'all making it seem like he is just another guy man he's far from that imo

Zeke definitely equals more wins, but that is about it. You dont fill pass rusher and shut down corner drafting in the 2nd half of the first round. We would be better off taking Ramsey at 4 and Henry in the 2nd round.
 

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Zeke definitely equals more wins, but that is about it. You dont fill pass rusher and shut down corner drafting in the 2nd half of the first round. We would be better off taking Ramsey at 4 and Henry in the 2nd round.

but see i'm not mad at that at all Ramsey and Henry i stated that plenty of times i actually like that better for our overall team but it looks like we trying to trade back in to the 1st rd tho
 

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but Dixon is not a better player nor caliber than Zeke like for real bruh quality and don't dioxin have a lot more tread on his tires 4 year starter right? with all those touches already

Dixon is the better scorer and by far the best pass catcher including Zeke
 

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No player at 4 is going to change the fortunes of this team immediately at 4. That's the point. But EE fans want to keep floating this myth that we have to take him at 4 because he's apparently the difference between this franchise being just good or being the greatest team of all time.

Once again, disagree. Not sure anyone is saying that EE will make us the greatest team ever. Since QB is probably not an option at four now, I can't help but believe EE would be the player that would have the most immediate impact over other options at four. EE has almost as many INTs as Ramsey. The big thing is that we've seen the impact a stud RB can have on our team behind our OL, it changes everything even our game planning. Not that Morris or McD are bad but they are not next level like EE is. It's not to say that players like Ramsey or Jack or Bosa won't be great and wouldn't be impactful for us, just not in as many ways a monster three down, grind it out, break off a big run, wear the d and clock down, keep the defense off the field RB would.
 

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http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Emmitt-Smith-and-Michael-Irvin-calling-for-Zeke-to-Cowboys-45037570

Irvin and Emmitts perspective on Deion in ATL and JJ Watt in Houston and how even tho they are all world defensive players there team still didn't (Deion) or hasn't (JJ) win a ship and Zeke did score 23 tds I mean we could use 20+ tds from A RB in A season


Draft tomorrow I been callin for Zeke waaaaayy before the threads got "Zeketafied"na mean

I'm sorry y'all we need a Super Bowl and to me Zekes I believe can be that guy ... I wanna talk sooooooooo $&&$? An all that

we need to stop playin and just go for it

I do like Ramsey tho nothing against him at all

Minn. has Peterson I don't see no ring on that finger. I agree running game is important and frankly if Dallas went into the season with Alfred Morris and McFadden I think the running game will do just fine. I think Morris has a lot more to offer than some other people feel. Defensively the Cowboys are hurting in both pass defense and run defense. Thing about great defense they keep you in the game with a chance to win. With Romo coming back along with a healthy Dez I see no reason this team can't compete for the NFC East and with improvements on defense a chance to do something once they get there.
 

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Irvin and Emmitts perspective on Deion in ATL and JJ Watt in Houston and how even tho they are all world defensive players there team still didn't (Deion) or hasn't (JJ) win a ship

Team game. What has JJ Watt had to play with at QB while a Texan? He won DPOY 3 times in 5 years. What else could you possibly expect him to do?
 
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