Validation that the Packers hold on every play

KJJ

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There's holding by both teams on every play but it has to be flagrant before they're going to call it. Just more excuses for why we lost. One FAN was trying to tell me our defense would have been better had the Packers not held on every play....right! lol
 

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I'm afraid not. That was a fumble by Irvin (not an interception) that was returned for a touchdown. Also it was shown that Green Bay actually snapped the ball on time and scored a touchdown. Both were called back.


Semantics. I thought you were saying they had an interception/touchdowns overturned by penalties. The pass to Irvin was called incomplete, it wasn't called back by a penalty. And a delay of game ends the play before it starts, so the tipped pass technically wasn't "called back." I'd have to find my tape of the game to see whether Green Bay "actually snapped the ball on time" -- but that seems extremely unlikely, given the mechanics of how that penalty is called. I'm pretty sure that the Packers' argument was that the play clock wasn't set properly, not that the ball was snapped on time.
 

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Semantics. I thought you were saying they had an interception/touchdowns overturned by penalties. The pass to Irvin was called incomplete, it wasn't called back by a penalty. And a delay of game ends the play before it starts, so the tipped pass technically wasn't "called back." I'd have to find my tape of the game to see whether Green Bay "actually snapped the ball on time" -- but that seems extremely unlikely, given the mechanics of how that penalty is called. I'm pretty sure that the Packers' argument was that the play clock wasn't set properly, not that the ball was snapped on time.

Either way they were robbed of 14 points and Aikman is on his back all day if they call penalties on Erik Williams.
 

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They werent correct. And two touchdowns is 14 points.

I'm pretty sure they were both correct calls. (Like I said, I'd have to find my tape to be sure, but the articles from the game suggest they were correct.) And the Packers kicked a field goal after the delay of game, so they didn't lose 14 points.
 

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Summary: Yes, the Packers OL holds on just about every play -- especially their excellent LT (Bakhtiari) -- who is already an excellent pass blocker, never mind the fact that, according to the article, has absolutely perfected this new technique.

Well, if that's true the Falcons are proving that a team that "holds on just about every play" can still get their butts kicked. Too bad our team couldn't do it last week.
 

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maybe the league doesn't care about hypocrisy at all.

This I think...helps explain:
Why Romo never got a roughing call but the chosen ones always do
Why Zeke Elliott was the subject of a public investigation by the league immediately after the NYGs got away with knowingly employing a monster abuser
Why Dallas got penalized illegally for dumping contracts in an uncapped year
Why tom Brady got away with cheating that helped him win a super bowl, destroyed blatant evidence, and they didn't have to give the trophy back
Why we took incredible heat for signing Greg hardy but murderer Ray Lewis was a poster child
Why it was okay for Krapernick to protest the anthem and support cop killings but not okay for the Cowboys to do a thing showing support for police
Why There was ironic timing for announcing Gregory's suspension
Why in the 90s and early 2000s every time a cowboy did something legal to gain an advantage, the league made a rule to ban it yet Denver was allowed to continue chop blocking, NE gets away with systematic PI, and the Packers get away with corporate holding
There's more I'm just tired...
Essentially the league is terrible as far as consistency, Goodell makes it up as he feels with an obvious anti Cowboy, pro NE and pro NYG slant
 

SlimBig

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This I think...helps explain:
Why Romo never got a roughing call but the chosen ones always do
Why Zeke Elliott was the subject of a public investigation by the league immediately after the NYGs got away with knowingly employing a monster abuser
Why Dallas got penalized illegally for dumping contracts in an uncapped year
Why tom Brady got away with cheating that helped him win a super bowl, destroyed blatant evidence, and they didn't have to give the trophy back
Why we took incredible heat for signing Greg hardy but murderer Ray Lewis was a poster child
Why it was okay for Krapernick to protest the anthem and support cop killings but not okay for the Cowboys to do a thing showing support for police
Why There was ironic timing for announcing Gregory's suspension
Why in the 90s and early 2000s every time a cowboy did something legal to gain an advantage, the league made a rule to ban it yet Denver was allowed to continue chop blocking, NE gets away with systematic PI, and the Packers get away with corporate holding
There's more I'm just tired...
Essentially the league is terrible as far as consistency, Goodell makes it up as he feels with an obvious anti Cowboy, pro NE and pro NYG slant

*** are you talking about. Are you being obtuse for a reason?
Support cop killings?
Stop with the lie, he was doing it to shed light on unarmed black people being killed by cops, not for police being shot.
 

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now that is holding clearly on 90, that should be called as you could see the jersey pull.
I guess they decided to not call holding in this game and instead focus on players in the huddle and then coming out? lol
Could be all these games are fixed.

Its blatant and obvious but what do you expect, there are fans on this board that are still arguing officiating wasnt an issue? Some people take it for so long that it upsets thier delicate balance to stand up for themselves. You cant tell me a rule that hasnt been applied in 30 years suddenly makes an appearance with out some prior study. Just like you cant tell me an official standing 3 feet in front of a clothesline tackle by an offensive lineman cant see it.
 

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This I think...helps explain:
Why Romo never got a roughing call but the chosen ones always do
Why Zeke Elliott was the subject of a public investigation by the league immediately after the NYGs got away with knowingly employing a monster abuser
Why Dallas got penalized illegally for dumping contracts in an uncapped year
Why tom Brady got away with cheating that helped him win a super bowl, destroyed blatant evidence, and they didn't have to give the trophy back
Why we took incredible heat for signing Greg hardy but murderer Ray Lewis was a poster child
Why it was okay for Krapernick to protest the anthem and support cop killings but not okay for the Cowboys to do a thing showing support for police
Why There was ironic timing for announcing Gregory's suspension
Why in the 90s and early 2000s every time a cowboy did something legal to gain an advantage, the league made a rule to ban it yet Denver was allowed to continue chop blocking, NE gets away with systematic PI, and the Packers get away with corporate holding
There's more I'm just tired...
Essentially the league is terrible as far as consistency, Goodell makes it up as he feels with an obvious anti Cowboy, pro NE and pro NYG slant
Cowboys have had more rules named after them

The Michael Irvin push off
The Emmitt Smith helmet off rule rule
The Erik Williams fish-hook or head slap
The Roy Williams horse collar
The Marion Barber stiff arm
The Tony Romo greased K balls
The Miles Austin cap rule
The Witten helmet off in play rule
The Dez catch rule that was originally Calvin Johnson
The TO prop rule
The Brice Butler huddle rule

any more????
 

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There's holding by both teams on every play but it has to be flagrant before they're going to call it. Just more excuses for why we lost. One FAN was trying to tell me our defense would have been better had the Packers not held on every play....right! lol
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Minus ESPN
 
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jimmy40

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doesn't even compare to the holding the Steelers Oline does while waiting for Bell to start running.
 

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I have neither the time or desire to go back through the playoffs over the past several years but doubt there are very many holding calls period. In the playoffs, the refs let the teams play. offensive Holding, definsive holding, grabbing, hands to the face, interference, you name it, it is happening. It is a different called game in the playoffs than during the regular season.
 
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