Very excited about the Cooper signing

JoeyBoy718

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I doubt he'd want to resign here to be a backup if some team is willing to give him a starting position. He seems to strictly be a guard so that would mean we either 1) don't trust Collins or 2) think Collins can play RT. In either of those cases, why wouldn't we just resign Leary and go with the sure thing instead of hoping we can resurrect Cooper?
 

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I doubt he'd want to resign here to be a backup if some team is willing to give him a starting position. He seems to strictly be a guard so that would mean we either 1) don't trust Collins or 2) think Collins can play RT. In either of those cases, why wouldn't we just resign Leary and go with the sure thing instead of hoping we can resurrect Cooper?
You are probably reading way too much into it.
 

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I doubt he'd want to resign here to be a backup if some team is willing to give him a starting position. He seems to strictly be a guard so that would mean we either 1) don't trust Collins or 2) think Collins can play RT. In either of those cases, why wouldn't we just resign Leary and go with the sure thing instead of hoping we can resurrect Cooper?

Maybe we lose Leary and Cooper turns out to be good depth behind Collins?
 

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Did Cooper play any center in College? Being able to back up both guards and center may be his only chance of making the roster. That is of course if he can beat out Jumbo Joe for a spot.
 

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We hear it all the time sometimes players need a change of scenery. Dallas' Oline right now as looked upon as one of the best in the league. Sometimes being around the best at what you do brings out your best. Being invited to potentially be a part of something special should be motivation to do the extras. I'd expect him to go all out and if he doesn't work out then you simply move on. But man oh man if he works out that would truly be yet another special added addition.
 

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I doubt he'd want to resign here to be a backup if some team is willing to give him a starting position. He seems to strictly be a guard so that would mean we either 1) don't trust Collins or 2) think Collins can play RT. In either of those cases, why wouldn't we just resign Leary and go with the sure thing instead of hoping we can resurrect Cooper?
Who exactly is "willing to give him a starting position?"

He's a reclamation project at this point that was just cut by a 1 win team. This is as good a situation for him as anywhere. If for no other reason than he gets paid, gets a big stage and may get a ring.

I also don't think we will get a comp pick out of him. Doubt he signs for enough. More likely he gets a prove it one y ear deal somewhere.
 

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Leary is already one of the better LG's in the game. Let's be realistic here.

Leary doesn't get enough credit by this fanbase. He is the nasty dude on this line, and he can block a Mack truck.
While it's nice to kick the tires on Cooper and he's had some injuries. I never thought he was a "nasty" dude like Leary. I see him being decent depth but he will not be out the other 3 OGs if they re-sign Leary. Where does he play? They won't move Collins to RT, nor will they move Martin there. So that leaves him as what? Just a backup, and who knows if he's better than what we have there now. Maybe those injuries robbed him of some skill.

But at the end of the day there is nothing wrong with kicking the tires on a former first rounder.
 

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Who exactly is "willing to give him a starting position?"

He's a reclamation project at this point that was just cut by a 1 win team. This is as good a situation for him as anywhere. If for no other reason than he gets paid, gets a big stage and may get a ring.

I also don't think we will get a comp pick out of him. Doubt he signs for enough. More likely he gets a prove it one y ear deal somewhere.

I read a lot of people saying he likely left one of his previous teams because he wanted a starting position. Based on that opinion, it wouldn't make sense for him to want to stay here. But I think it'd be a good opportunity for him to learn a year from some of the best OL in the game and then try to earn a starting job either here or somewhere else. He could be great depth.
 

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I doubt he'd want to resign here to be a backup if some team is willing to give him a starting position. He seems to strictly be a guard so that would mean we either 1) don't trust Collins or 2) think Collins can play RT. In either of those cases, why wouldn't we just resign Leary and go with the sure thing instead of hoping we can resurrect Cooper?
Cause Leary wants too much money. Can't pay top money for every position and Martin is more important. Doesn't mean we won't try to sign Leary and it doesn't mean Cooper takes his job but I think is smart to have a backup plan
 

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I read a lot of people saying he likely left one of his previous teams because he wanted a starting position. Based on that opinion, it wouldn't make sense for him to want to stay here. But I think it'd be a good opportunity for him to learn a year from some of the best OL in the game and then try to earn a starting job either here or somewhere else. He could be great depth.
In any case he's the kind of signing to actually be somewhat excited about. Young, highly drafted, derailed only due to non chronic injuries in his career and has some good tape albeit limited.

I wish we had him locked up for cheap for next season. But I understand why he passed. I also understand why he might stay. Impressive room he'll be in with the other o-lineman, there is a sense that this team will be good for some time and hey the Star isn't a bad recruiting tool in and of itself.
 
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I recall the Cowboys signing a right tackle that hadn't panned out because of high expectations and injuries,,, Marc Columbo IIRC. He didn't go all-pro but he was serviceable and that's the kind of guy we can use for depth. Fingers crossed.
 

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That's a fair assessment. I think most are just hoping for a Leonard Davis/Marc Colombo resurrection. I guess time will tell.

Leonard Davis wasn't a reclamation project, he was signed to a 49 Million dollar contract as a FA. If that's a resurrection project, I'd hate to pay full price.
 

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Have to say I was a major proponent of drafting him and though he hasn't worked out in the league (mainly due to injury I believe) it was good to see that the team was as high on him as I was when he was in the draft. He just didn't fall to us.

Me saying that I'm excited about his signing isn't to suggest that he is going to be all pro tomorrow, but this is low risk high reward. He could really fit in here.

I was shocked when Cooper was drafted at #7. Thought that he would become a DALLAS COWBOY that day later in Rd1. With all his physical trouble sin the NFL, glad that it has played out the way it has. If Cooper is rebuilt like Columbo... this can become a very good thing. I would hope the 2017 OL to look like:

SMITH - LEARY - FREDBEARD - COLLINS - MARTIN and Cooper the LG in waiting on Leary's knee as he rebuilds himself... I think Martin would make a better RT than Collins and Collins the better replacement of All-Pro RG-Martin as Dallas moves out Doug Free
 

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I was shocked when Cooper was drafted at #7. Thought that he would become a DALLAS COWBOY that day later in Rd1. With all his physical trouble sin the NFL, glad that it has played out the way it has. If Cooper is rebuilt like Columbo... this can become a very good thing. I would hope the 2017 OL to look like:

SMITH - LEARY - FREDBEARD - COLLINS - MARTIN and Cooper the LG in waiting on Leary's knee as he rebuilds himself... I think Martin would make a better RT than Collins and Collins the better replacement of All-Pro RG-Martin as Dallas moves out Doug Free
I'm not moving an All Pro in Martin. And i'm not paying Leary what he asks. I'm taking Free and Green to camp with maybe a FA vet or mid round RT draft prospect. And at LG i'm bringing Collins, Cooper (if he resigns cheaply great) and a FA vet LG.

You can only spend so much.
 

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I was shocked when Cooper was drafted at #7. Thought that he would become a DALLAS COWBOY that day later in Rd1. With all his physical trouble sin the NFL, glad that it has played out the way it has. If Cooper is rebuilt like Columbo... this can become a very good thing. I would hope the 2017 OL to look like:

SMITH - LEARY - FREDBEARD - COLLINS - MARTIN and Cooper the LG in waiting on Leary's knee as he rebuilds himself... I think Martin would make a better RT than Collins and Collins the better replacement of All-Pro RG-Martin as Dallas moves out Doug Free

Martin is a lock for the HoF if you keep him at guard and he stays healthy. You don't move him.

Leary is gone, unless he signs a friendly contract, which he won't because someone will overpay him ala Parnell.

Cooper can probably play Center and Guard, and if he can't get right in Dallas, then he's probably not ever going to get there.

We're going to get good look at him, so that's exciting. I think they'd be much more apt to check Collins at Tackle if they had a guy like Cooper flashing at LG
 

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I'm not moving an All Pro in Martin. And i'm not paying Leary what he asks. I'm taking Free and Green to camp with maybe a FA vet or mid round RT draft prospect. And at LG i'm bringing Collins, Cooper (if he resigns cheaply great) and a FA vet LG.

You can only spend so much.

No one knows what Leary wants in $$$. Maybe Team is more important than Ca$h. Can only hope so..... Cowboy for life and multiple SB or $$$ and a JAG forever. I'd take the Cowboys best offer
 

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No one knows what Leary wants in $$$. Maybe Team is more important than Ca$h. Can only hope so..... Cowboy for life and multiple SB or $$$ and a JAG forever. I'd take the Cowboys best offer
Leary was a UDFA. Who had his job given away by this organization (btw I approved the decision). He has a very limited window to set himself up for life. He may take a smaller offer from the Cowboys but it won't be a significant discount in all likelihood. And I don't blame him.
 

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I'm not moving an All Pro in Martin. And i'm not paying Leary what he asks. I'm taking Free and Green to camp with maybe a FA vet or mid round RT draft prospect. And at LG i'm bringing Collins, Cooper (if he resigns cheaply great) and a FA vet LG.

You can only spend so much.

I did a little research and I know the know on Martin in the draft of "best fit" on the OL as a OG/OT was his short arms. I was unaware that they measure less than 33" and I don't like an OT less than 34". I agree, moving a future HOF from his position is a poor decision. Emmit Cleary - I have not been disappointed with as a backup... SMITH - LEARY - FREDBEARD - MARTIN - COLLINS

COLLINS does have the length to play OT, but can he? .... Honestly, I'd like to see all this young talent stick in DAL, Collins, Cooper, Leary, Green, Cleary
 
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